She (J-in-DC) obviously isn't coming back to this thread, so let's please stop dissing her and go back to the OP's question.

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Anonymous wrote:Strangely some people seem to their anxiety is more harmful to the baby than repeated multiple times a week exposure to the Doppler.

PP here. It may actually be that they're not incorrect. But, if they have that much anxiety with no signs of trouble, the doppler is a bandaid covering up a major issue they need to work on. And my guess is it isn't reducing the anxiety by that much to make a huge difference. Again, hate to keep picking on the one poster, but if you literally cannot sleep, suffer insomnia and high blood pressure because you're stressing over a symptomless possible miscarriage you need help putting things in perspective. Parenthood is much more frightening than this.

Also, I think some PP's are mistakenly thinking that a poster upthread is arguing in favor of doppler with the "what if you don't feel movement" question. I think that was a person concerned about the Doppler posing the question - along the lines of- if you think things are stressful now, there's more stress ahead, and you should NOT resolve that stress with the doppler. That was my take, anyway.

I was referring to Jindc poster who uses the Doppler for sanity b/c she is too early to feel movement. I think she definitely has an underlying issue - and no Jindc, ivf is not an excuse b/c I did it too (several times) and don't have a home Doppler.

Yes, if she has so much stress now, what is she going to do once she finally feels movement? Still rely on the Doppler if she has an exceptionally quiet day? Thus, my point that the Doppler is not only useless but creates a false sense of security.

Sigh.

Haven't posted on this thread yet before, btw. But have been watching this and some other threads (ehem, wedding announcement) become so NASTY. What is up everyone! Let's everyone take a deep breath and try to be a little bit nicer to everyone. You may not like a PP's choices, you may make different choices that she would not make. Speak your peace, and let's all try a little respect and a little move on and agree to disagree.

Anonymous wrote:Strangely some people seem to their anxiety is more harmful to the baby than repeated multiple times a week exposure to the Doppler.

PP here. It may actually be that they're not incorrect. But, if they have that much anxiety with no signs of trouble, the doppler is a bandaid covering up a major issue they need to work on. And my guess is it isn't reducing the anxiety by that much to make a huge difference. Again, hate to keep picking on the one poster, but if you literally cannot sleep, suffer insomnia and high blood pressure because you're stressing over a symptomless possible miscarriage you need help putting things in perspective. Parenthood is much more frightening than this.

Also, I think some PP's are mistakenly thinking that a poster upthread is arguing in favor of doppler with the "what if you don't feel movement" question. I think that was a person concerned about the Doppler posing the question - along the lines of- if you think things are stressful now, there's more stress ahead, and you should NOT resolve that stress with the doppler. That was my take, anyway.

Strangely some people seem to their anxiety is more harmful to the baby than repeated multiple times a week exposure to the Doppler.

Wow, I'm the first PP who mentioned risks (and I have not been back to this page since my reply to the usernamed PP). I get that PPs here are making a distinction between what they fully admit is their own need for constant reassurance when there's no indication of a problem (is there a heartbeat? Okay, whew) and relying on that later in pregnancy for reassurance if something otherwise seems off or they feel less movement, etc. But to PPs who suggest that their anxiety skyrockets if they don't have this tool, I think the bigger issue is that using this doppler is temporarily solving one solution of an anxiety disorder that some of the PPs don't realize they have. Look, pregnancy is a seriously scary time. It's filled with risk and sometimes, heartbreak. More often than not, it's not. It's this exact overage of info (we are constantly bombarded by miscarriage stats, have books that might have be titled "what is definitely going to go wrong, eventually, when you are expecting" and other stuff to drive us crazy. Add in an IVF scenario where very little is left to chance and we emerge wanting to scrutinize and second guess and panic over every aspect of pregnancy. The truth is, with a doppler, sometimes you'll get a heartbeat and sometimes you won't. If you don't know how to use it, you'll aim that thing all around in there, and you are HEATING UP THE CELLS OF YOUR BABY. Sorry for the all caps, but seriously, people think this is just NBD? There is evidence out there against overuse of ultrasound technology. if you read the links I supplied, not from some crunchy website but from a OB GYN best practices site, along with peer reviewed cites and studies, doppler is stronger than ultrasound imaging. Stronger. These are not harmless devices or medically necessary. If you are using them multiple times per day that's a risk. You need to know that. Don't glaze over it and think they wouldn't sell them if they weren't safe. Many doctors have spoken out about this and all of the official use is clear. It's advised that you do not use home dopplers, get "novelty" ultrasounds, etc. Don't expose baby to any more dopplers than necessary. I just can't believe how many people are just like yeah, I know it's a risk, but whatevs...deal baby because mommy is anxious.

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jindc wrote:I 've thought about it, and I think if you don't know that there are still risks regardless, then I don't know what to tell ya.

I use mine a couple of times a week and will until I can feel movement because it keeps me from going bat shit.

Any intelligent woman knows there are still risks that a Doppler can't identify, which is why there are doctor's visits. I think women who use it every day for an hour are not doing themselves any favors, for 3 minutes a couple times a week? The fumes from my metro commute are far worse.

What are you going to do when you finally start feeling movement and then one day the baby doesn't move as much? That will cause you stress too.....

Then you go into your OB immediately! You don't sit around at home messing with your home doppler when that happens!

Well but if she gets a heartbeat on Doppler, she might not. She is not feeling movement now and relying on it.

What are you talking about? I'm 13 weeks - this is OP. Of course I'm not feeling movement. You all have been pregnant, yes? You know all the doc does is listen to the heartbeat at visits, right? What else do you suggest they do?

Please stop.

We are responding to the pp who is saying if you stop feeling movement (later in your pregnancy) you can use your home doppler to check on yourself. But I think that's a terrible idea and you should just go in to the OB if that happens. As for checking the heartbeat every single day so early in your pregnancy, I just can't even understand that. That's a level of anxiety I don't have.

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jindc wrote:I 've thought about it, and I think if you don't know that there are still risks regardless, then I don't know what to tell ya.

I use mine a couple of times a week and will until I can feel movement because it keeps me from going bat shit.

Any intelligent woman knows there are still risks that a Doppler can't identify, which is why there are doctor's visits. I think women who use it every day for an hour are not doing themselves any favors, for 3 minutes a couple times a week? The fumes from my metro commute are far worse.

What are you going to do when you finally start feeling movement and then one day the baby doesn't move as much? That will cause you stress too.....

Then you go into your OB immediately! You don't sit around at home messing with your home doppler when that happens!

Well but if she gets a heartbeat on Doppler, she might not. She is not feeling movement now and relying on it.

What are you talking about? I'm 13 weeks - this is OP. Of course I'm not feeling movement. You all have been pregnant, yes? You know all the doc does is listen to the heartbeat at visits, right? What else do you suggest they do?

Please stop.

Not talking about you OP. talking about the poster who uses the doppler b/c she is not far enough along to feel movement - says it keeps her from going bat shit.

Yes and the doctor at my medical visits is a medical professional - the only person who should be using a Doppler.

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jindc wrote:I 've thought about it, and I think if you don't know that there are still risks regardless, then I don't know what to tell ya.

I use mine a couple of times a week and will until I can feel movement because it keeps me from going bat shit.

Any intelligent woman knows there are still risks that a Doppler can't identify, which is why there are doctor's visits. I think women who use it every day for an hour are not doing themselves any favors, for 3 minutes a couple times a week? The fumes from my metro commute are far worse.

What are you going to do when you finally start feeling movement and then one day the baby doesn't move as much? That will cause you stress too.....

Then you go into your OB immediately! You don't sit around at home messing with your home doppler when that happens!

Well but if she gets a heartbeat on Doppler, she might not. She is not feeling movement now and relying on it.

What are you talking about? I'm 13 weeks - this is OP. Of course I'm not feeling movement. You all have been pregnant, yes? You know all the doc does is listen to the heartbeat at visits, right? What else do you suggest they do?

Please stop.

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Anonymous wrote:OP back again - wow, thought this thread would disappear down the boards I think all of us know the risks associated with various things during with pregnancy and choose to mitigate them as best we can. I got my doppler during my last pregnancy, after I was hospitalized after a car accident around 13 weeks. I used it maybe once a week until I could feel movement regularly. This time around I've been a little more anxious - not to the point of raising my blood pressure, not sleeping, etc etc but perhaps as a result of less stress thanks to my now-toddler or my advancing age. I find it reassuring (when I can find the hb, ha!) during the in-between stage, where you're starting to tell people but can't feel movement and don't really look pregnant. Totally to each their own and thanks so much to those who shared thoughts ! Happy and healthy pregnancy wishes to all.

Yes but it is giving you a false sense of security. Just b/c you can hear the heartbeat doesn't mean something else more serious is not wrong.

This argument makes no sense.

Makes total sense. You find the heartbeat and think oh perfect, baby is fine, and don't go in. Something else could be wrong though but you won't know b/c you don't go to the doctor.

No one uses it as a substitute for the doc. The point is it is for between visits, without indication that anything is wrong. Sigh.

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jindc wrote:I 've thought about it, and I think if you don't know that there are still risks regardless, then I don't know what to tell ya.

I use mine a couple of times a week and will until I can feel movement because it keeps me from going bat shit.

Any intelligent woman knows there are still risks that a Doppler can't identify, which is why there are doctor's visits. I think women who use it every day for an hour are not doing themselves any favors, for 3 minutes a couple times a week? The fumes from my metro commute are far worse.

What are you going to do when you finally start feeling movement and then one day the baby doesn't move as much? That will cause you stress too.....

Then you go into your OB immediately! You don't sit around at home messing with your home doppler when that happens!

Well but if she gets a heartbeat on Doppler, she might not. She is not feeling movement now and relying on it.