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Anonymous wrote:Is the sole purpose of going to LJ to then go to TJ? If that is the case, declines outweigh acceptances.

Isn't that the case with every FCPS middle school, even those with "larger" AAP centers?

Historically Longfellow was around 50/50 up and down from year to year. However, this year it took a dive for some reason.

Based on the documents provided at the July 19, 2010 School Board work session, it appears that Longfellow was not 1/2 declines and 1/2 acceptances for Classes of 2010 - 2014. (And no other middle school was, either.)

Link to the documents:

http://www.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/goto?open&id=86VRS66F591C

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Anonymous wrote:Is the sole purpose of going to LJ to then go to TJ? If that is the case, declines outweigh acceptances.

Isn't that the case with every FCPS middle school, even those with "larger" AAP centers?

Historically Longfellow was around 50/50 up and down from year to year. However, this year it took a dive for some reason.

Based on the documents provided at the July 19, 2010 School Board work session, it appears that Longfellow was not 1/2 declines and 1/2 acceptances for Classes of 2010 - 2014. (And no other middle school was, either.)

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Anonymous wrote:Is the sole purpose of going to LJ to then go to TJ? If that is the case, declines outweigh acceptances.

Isn't that the case with every FCPS middle school, even those with "larger" AAP centers?

Historically Longfellow was around 50/50 up and down from year to year. However, this year it took a dive for some reason.

Anonymous wrote:Is the sole purpose of going to LJ to then go to TJ? If that is the case, declines outweigh acceptances.

Isn't that the case with every FCPS middle school, even those with "larger" AAP centers?

Is the sole purpose of going to LJ to then go to TJ? If that is the case, declines outweigh acceptances.

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Anonymous wrote:LJ is much smaller AAP Center with 333 students vs. Kilmer 570 students vs. Longfellow 694 students. Their TJ acceptance rate is on par with Frost MS when Frost has more students 375. This is 2011-212 statistics from FCPS school profile. Last year LJ had 20 students accepted to TJ, and 18 students in previous year. The school is doing very well indeed!

More Frost MS AAP Center students opt not to apply to TJ as their high school is Woodson.

As opposed to Langley, McLean, Madison and Marshall? All are similar to Woodson. Plus, the Frost folks are closer to TJ, so I would have expected more to apply as TJ is closer to them.

I believe the PP was comparing the size of Luther Jackson's AAP Center with Frost's AAP Center, and used the description of "much smaller AAP Center" as compared to the size of the AAP Centers feeding Langley, McLean, Madison and Marshall.

And believe it or not there are some Frost AAP students and families that opt not to apply to TJ as the quality of education at Woodson is quite high, as evidenced in the recent PISA study.

My point is that the argument doesn't pass the smell test as the level of education at Langley, McLean, Madison and Marshall are also "quite high". It is not a distinguishing characteristic that sets Woodson apart from the rest.

So we are stating different things. I was commenting on the "much smaller AAP Center" descriptor re: Luther Jackson AAP Center and Frost AAP Center. Luther Jackson AAP Center students do not feed to Woodson. Frost AAP Center students (mostly) feed to Woodson.

And much of Luther Jackson's AAP Center students feed into Madison.

That's great. Has no relevance to my prior comment, but that's great. Chinese mustard also does a great job of opening up sinuses when the pollen count is high. That statement is just about as relevant to my prior comment.

You seem to be stating that the reason Frost students do not apply to TJ at a greater rate than other schools is because of the "quality of education at Woodson". (see above, I bolded your words for you.) That doesn't hold "mustard" for me as the quality of education at the other matriculating HS is ALSO QUITE HIGH.

Ah, yes -- the infamous "should I choose Tuscany or Sicily for my month-long vacation" dilemma.

Anonymous wrote:^^^ should be "ARE QUITE HIGH"

^^^ No, it should be "IS QUITE HIGH," since the subject is "quality," not "high schools."

^^^ should be "ARE QUITE HIGH"

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Anonymous wrote:LJ is much smaller AAP Center with 333 students vs. Kilmer 570 students vs. Longfellow 694 students. Their TJ acceptance rate is on par with Frost MS when Frost has more students 375. This is 2011-212 statistics from FCPS school profile. Last year LJ had 20 students accepted to TJ, and 18 students in previous year. The school is doing very well indeed!

More Frost MS AAP Center students opt not to apply to TJ as their high school is Woodson.

As opposed to Langley, McLean, Madison and Marshall? All are similar to Woodson. Plus, the Frost folks are closer to TJ, so I would have expected more to apply as TJ is closer to them.

I believe the PP was comparing the size of Luther Jackson's AAP Center with Frost's AAP Center, and used the description of "much smaller AAP Center" as compared to the size of the AAP Centers feeding Langley, McLean, Madison and Marshall.

And believe it or not there are some Frost AAP students and families that opt not to apply to TJ as the quality of education at Woodson is quite high, as evidenced in the recent PISA study.

My point is that the argument doesn't pass the smell test as the level of education at Langley, McLean, Madison and Marshall are also "quite high". It is not a distinguishing characteristic that sets Woodson apart from the rest.

So we are stating different things. I was commenting on the "much smaller AAP Center" descriptor re: Luther Jackson AAP Center and Frost AAP Center. Luther Jackson AAP Center students do not feed to Woodson. Frost AAP Center students (mostly) feed to Woodson.

And much of Luther Jackson's AAP Center students feed into Madison.

That's great. Has no relevance to my prior comment, but that's great. Chinese mustard also does a great job of opening up sinuses when the pollen count is high. That statement is just about as relevant to my prior comment.

You seem to be stating that the reason Frost students do not apply to TJ at a greater rate than other schools is because of the "quality of education at Woodson". (see above, I bolded your words for you.) That doesn't hold "mustard" for me as the quality of education at the other matriculating HS is ALSO QUITE HIGH.

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Anonymous wrote:LJ is much smaller AAP Center with 333 students vs. Kilmer 570 students vs. Longfellow 694 students. Their TJ acceptance rate is on par with Frost MS when Frost has more students 375. This is 2011-212 statistics from FCPS school profile. Last year LJ had 20 students accepted to TJ, and 18 students in previous year. The school is doing very well indeed!

More Frost MS AAP Center students opt not to apply to TJ as their high school is Woodson.

As opposed to Langley, McLean, Madison and Marshall? All are similar to Woodson. Plus, the Frost folks are closer to TJ, so I would have expected more to apply as TJ is closer to them.

I believe the PP was comparing the size of Luther Jackson's AAP Center with Frost's AAP Center, and used the description of "much smaller AAP Center" as compared to the size of the AAP Centers feeding Langley, McLean, Madison and Marshall.

And believe it or not there are some Frost AAP students and families that opt not to apply to TJ as the quality of education at Woodson is quite high, as evidenced in the recent PISA study.

My point is that the argument doesn't pass the smell test as the level of education at Langley, McLean, Madison and Marshall are also "quite high". It is not a distinguishing characteristic that sets Woodson apart from the rest.

So we are stating different things. I was commenting on the "much smaller AAP Center" descriptor re: Luther Jackson AAP Center and Frost AAP Center. Luther Jackson AAP Center students do not feed to Woodson. Frost AAP Center students (mostly) feed to Woodson.

And much of Luther Jackson's AAP Center students feed into Madison.

That's great. Has no relevance to my prior comment, but that's great. Chinese mustard also does a great job of opening up sinuses when the pollen count is high. That statement is just about as relevant to my prior comment.

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Anonymous wrote:LJ is much smaller AAP Center with 333 students vs. Kilmer 570 students vs. Longfellow 694 students. Their TJ acceptance rate is on par with Frost MS when Frost has more students 375. This is 2011-212 statistics from FCPS school profile. Last year LJ had 20 students accepted to TJ, and 18 students in previous year. The school is doing very well indeed!

More Frost MS AAP Center students opt not to apply to TJ as their high school is Woodson.

As opposed to Langley, McLean, Madison and Marshall? All are similar to Woodson. Plus, the Frost folks are closer to TJ, so I would have expected more to apply as TJ is closer to them.

I believe the PP was comparing the size of Luther Jackson's AAP Center with Frost's AAP Center, and used the description of "much smaller AAP Center" as compared to the size of the AAP Centers feeding Langley, McLean, Madison and Marshall.

And believe it or not there are some Frost AAP students and families that opt not to apply to TJ as the quality of education at Woodson is quite high, as evidenced in the recent PISA study.

My point is that the argument doesn't pass the smell test as the level of education at Langley, McLean, Madison and Marshall are also "quite high". It is not a distinguishing characteristic that sets Woodson apart from the rest.

So we are stating different things. I was commenting on the "much smaller AAP Center" descriptor re: Luther Jackson AAP Center and Frost AAP Center. Luther Jackson AAP Center students do not feed to Woodson. Frost AAP Center students (mostly) feed to Woodson.

And much of Luther Jackson's AAP Center students feed into Madison.

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Anonymous wrote:LJ is much smaller AAP Center with 333 students vs. Kilmer 570 students vs. Longfellow 694 students. Their TJ acceptance rate is on par with Frost MS when Frost has more students 375. This is 2011-212 statistics from FCPS school profile. Last year LJ had 20 students accepted to TJ, and 18 students in previous year. The school is doing very well indeed!

More Frost MS AAP Center students opt not to apply to TJ as their high school is Woodson.

As opposed to Langley, McLean, Madison and Marshall? All are similar to Woodson. Plus, the Frost folks are closer to TJ, so I would have expected more to apply as TJ is closer to them.

I believe the PP was comparing the size of Luther Jackson's AAP Center with Frost's AAP Center, and used the description of "much smaller AAP Center" as compared to the size of the AAP Centers feeding Langley, McLean, Madison and Marshall.

And believe it or not there are some Frost AAP students and families that opt not to apply to TJ as the quality of education at Woodson is quite high, as evidenced in the recent PISA study.

My point is that the argument doesn't pass the smell test as the level of education at Langley, McLean, Madison and Marshall are also "quite high". It is not a distinguishing characteristic that sets Woodson apart from the rest.

So we are stating different things. I was commenting on the "much smaller AAP Center" descriptor re: Luther Jackson AAP Center and Frost AAP Center. Luther Jackson AAP Center students do not feed to Woodson. Frost AAP Center students (mostly) feed to Woodson.

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Anonymous wrote:LJ is much smaller AAP Center with 333 students vs. Kilmer 570 students vs. Longfellow 694 students. Their TJ acceptance rate is on par with Frost MS when Frost has more students 375. This is 2011-212 statistics from FCPS school profile. Last year LJ had 20 students accepted to TJ, and 18 students in previous year. The school is doing very well indeed!

More Frost MS AAP Center students opt not to apply to TJ as their high school is Woodson.

The percentage of total AAP students from Frost and Jackson applying to TJ was virtually identical this year.

I assume this was a dig at Falls Church HS, but some Jackson AAP students also are zoned for Madison and Oakton, and some Frost AAP students are zoned for Annandale.

If one wants to play with statistics, as among these four schools:

- a higher percentage of Kilmer and Longfellow AAP students applied to TJ than is the case at Frost and Jackson
- the percentage of applicants making the semifinal round was highest at Longfellow (77%), followed by Kilmer (66%), Frost (58%), and Jackson (47%)
- the percentage of applicants actually admitted was highest at Longfellow (26%), followed by Kilmer (22%), Frost (20%) and Jackson (17%)
- the percentage of semifinalists admitted was highest at Jackson (36%) was slightly higher than the percentage at Longfellow, Kilmer and Frost (34%).

So goes the lunch break. Didn't run the #s for Carson or Rocky Run, but they are undoubtedly higher than these four schools on some of these metrics. Burp!

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Anonymous wrote:LJ is much smaller AAP Center with 333 students vs. Kilmer 570 students vs. Longfellow 694 students. Their TJ acceptance rate is on par with Frost MS when Frost has more students 375. This is 2011-212 statistics from FCPS school profile. Last year LJ had 20 students accepted to TJ, and 18 students in previous year. The school is doing very well indeed!

More Frost MS AAP Center students opt not to apply to TJ as their high school is Woodson.

As opposed to Langley, McLean, Madison and Marshall? All are similar to Woodson. Plus, the Frost folks are closer to TJ, so I would have expected more to apply as TJ is closer to them.

I believe the PP was comparing the size of Luther Jackson's AAP Center with Frost's AAP Center, and used the description of "much smaller AAP Center" as compared to the size of the AAP Centers feeding Langley, McLean, Madison and Marshall.

And believe it or not there are some Frost AAP students and families that opt not to apply to TJ as the quality of education at Woodson is quite high, as evidenced in the recent PISA study.

My point is that the argument doesn't pass the smell test as the level of education at Langley, McLean, Madison and Marshall are also "quite high". It is not a distinguishing characteristic that sets Woodson apart from the rest.

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Anonymous wrote:LJ is much smaller AAP Center with 333 students vs. Kilmer 570 students vs. Longfellow 694 students. Their TJ acceptance rate is on par with Frost MS when Frost has more students 375. This is 2011-212 statistics from FCPS school profile. Last year LJ had 20 students accepted to TJ, and 18 students in previous year. The school is doing very well indeed!

More Frost MS AAP Center students opt not to apply to TJ as their high school is Woodson.

As opposed to Langley, McLean, Madison and Marshall? All are similar to Woodson. Plus, the Frost folks are closer to TJ, so I would have expected more to apply as TJ is closer to them.

I believe the PP was comparing the size of Luther Jackson's AAP Center with Frost's AAP Center, and used the description of "much smaller AAP Center" as compared to the size of the AAP Centers feeding Langley, McLean, Madison and Marshall.

And believe it or not there are some Frost AAP students and families that opt not to apply to TJ as the quality of education at Woodson is quite high, as evidenced in the recent PISA study.