Anonymous wrote:I a Liberal Democrat and I own a gun.

BS.

The Swiss gun control laws are indeed strict.

But if the Swiss were of a criminal mindset those gun laws would be ignored the same as gun laws in the US of A are being ignored.

We cannot blame a monoculture as the Swiss nation was founded on multi-culturalism, what with the German, French, and Italian cultures mixing (the French seem to be more liberal/progressive).

Then add in the Albanian, ex-Yugo, and other refugee sorts. IIRC, the Swiss foreign-born population is a greater percentage of the Swiss population than our own.

As to my earlier statement that the USA is blessed with more losers per capita than Europe -- I do have to amend that one. We are blessed with more violent losers than Yurp.

Property crime rates are all over the place in Yurp. IIUC we would be in the middle (and nearer the bottom if you take out the South.)

However in violent crime we are #1 BABY!

Lordy, the NRA has truly infiltrated the American mind. Misinformation abounds. Here are some factoids:

MYTH: "Israel and Switzerland have very high rates of gun ownership and they don't have our crime problems. This proves that guns are not the problem and gun control is not the answer."

In fact, both Switzerland and Israel have much stricter gun control laws than the United States. All men in Switzerland are members of the militia and issued rifles by the government and these rifles are all registered and all ammunition must be accounted for. When it comes to handguns, the Swiss require a background check, a permit to purchase a handgun, and handgun registration. Apparently, Swiss gun owners don't consider this an infringement on their right to own a gun. Israel requires a license to carry, possess or buy a handgun and they conduct thorough background checks, including personal interviews.

Also, in Switzerland, "All weapons and munitions are individually registered. They are not even allowed to have bullets for their military-issued assault weapons. Those are kept in armories and available at regulated shooting ranges. Unstable and paranoid, criminal types are denied gun ownership in Switzerland. Unlawful possession of guns is harshly punished. Gun trade among individuals requires a valid weapon acquisition permit. Weapons acquired from an individual in the last ten years (which did not require a weapon-acquisition permit) have to be registered. As a central weapons register was politically unfeasible, the authorities hope to get an overview of the market through this registration requirement. Every gun must be marked with a registered serial number. "

Here's some more:
http://csgv2.blogspot.com/2011/03/truth-about-guns-in-switzerland.html

Please, people. Stop all this Switzerland bullsh!t. The Swiss think we are ape-sh!t crazy. Believe me. I have relatives in Geneva.

Switzerland’s low gun homicide rate seems a contradiction upon first glance. Here’s a country with one of the highest gun ownership levels in Europe that also has a relatively low gun homicide rate! Same applies to Norway.

In contrast, Britain has exceptionally low gun ownership levels and gun homicide rates. The Swiss, Norwegian and even Canadian firearms experience refutes the belief that very low gun homicide rates are due to strict controls on ownership levels of firearms … while British and most other EU country experience confirms that belief. However, even Switzerland has half the gun ownership rate and Norway, a third that of the US which has the highest gun ownership rate of any country in the world. Furthermore, Switzerland and Norway, while having high gun ownership rates, also have extensive training, certification requirements and strict gun controls … and are not permeated by violent cultural values.


http://sandiegofreepress.org/2013/01/some-factual-gun-statistics-part-2-of-a-cultural-comparison-gun-violence-in-the-us-and-europe/

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I a Liberal Democrat and I own a gun.

Why? (The answer makes all the difference.)

Because the 2nd Amendment permits me thevrightbtomown a weapon for self protection. I own a Glock 9 mm that I keep in a safe in my home. I take it out to the range once a month. If, God forbid, I ever have to,use it, the criminal,will not. E getting up.

The 2nd Amendment is just as important as the other rights in our Bill of Rights. If we repeal the Second, why not the First Amendment or the Fifth Amendment?

Anonymous wrote:Bethesda person....do you really want to be responsible for snuffing out someone's life??? How would that weigh on you for the rest of your years?

Just because some poor fool maybe tried to break into your house? You wanna kill a burglar? What are the changes that burglar is breaking in to kill you?

People like you who want to have a killing machine in their house are the reason that innocent people (not talking about the burglar anymore) get killed all the time.

You know Switzerland has the highest murder rate in Europe? You know why? Because the Swiss are required to have a gun in their home. It's part of their military plan. And just having a gun significantly increases the risk of all kinds of killing.

Life is precious. Why do you want to play God?

You are so full of shit! There is hardly any crime in Switzerland compared to the U.S.

http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/countries-with-highest-murder-rates.html

I have a gun and dog...

The gun isn't loaded and in a gun safe;
Dog is more likely to lick you than hurt you....

I guess I am dead meat to the next intruder...

Must have more guns.

Its my god given right to have a gun and shoot people. We need more guns!

We ALL have crazy neighbors with guns, we just don't know who they are all the time, do we?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My point is, if you enter my home without permission with ill-intentions, you will see the business end of my Glock.

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Because in American we use the death penalty for trespassing. And without due process. Anyone can administer it.

And you will spend a pretty penny in $ and psychically if you do it.

It's easy to talk tough. Unless you're a psychopath the physical and fiscal after-effects are heavier than you seem to have considered.

and as to the original quote, you're an ignorant fool if you think you can shoot a trespasser dead and walk away from it.... that's just ignorant trash talk in almost every state and in any case, a disturbing state of mind to be in. The quoted poster sounds like a punk with a gun and a 2" dick.

Anonymous wrote:My point is, if you enter my home without permission with ill-intentions, you will see the business end of my Glock.

^
Because in American we use the death penalty for trespassing. And without due process. Anyone can administer it.

And you will spend a pretty penny in $ and psychically if you do it.

It's easy to talk tough. Unless you're a psychopath the physical and fiscal after-effects are heavier than you seem to have considered.

for all you morons advocating expressing your 2nd amendment rights by shooting others, be aware that even if you are justified, the second you fire a gun at and injure another person, you will be in for years of criminal and civil judicial inquiries, potential litigation, and thousands of dollars in legal costs and potential damages.

Even 2nd amend. advocates like M. Ayoob warn folks of this and advise you to consider carefully whether your cojones are truly as big as your mouth when you say things like this.

Just my perspective as a CCW holder/shooter/20+ yrs. in federal LE who also thinks we need tighter controls over guns, which can be done without violating the 2nd amendment.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I a Liberal Democrat and I own a gun.

Congrats!. You're just as stupid as the conservacoma crowd!

No, PP - YOU are stupid for being ignorant.

Good luck when the shit hits the fan. glad you won't make it out our way!

Anonymous wrote:Let's face it -- America is "blessed" with more losers per capita than European countries IMHO.

I LOLed until I died. Clearly you have never been there.