Anonymous
Post 04/24/2013 11:41     Subject: Re:s/o straight men sleeping with men
Showed this thread to my proudly openly gay brother.

He said it was odd that the posters who are calling gay actually seem more reasonable about it. He said that the people who are going out of their way to insist that certain conduct was not gay seem to be in denial – like they are afraid of the label. He said that these people seem to be buying into the negative connotation more than the seemingly “close minded” people who only see gay and straight.

He also said that he sure he knows some of your DHs.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2013 11:39     Subject: s/o straight men sleeping with men
Anonymous wrote:OP, don't even bother. You will not get a useful or honest answer because your thread, like the previous thread, has been captured by a bunch of idiots. FWIW-- and you will have to google b/c I do not have the reference at hand-- a recent CDC study found that about 10 percent of self-identified straight men said they had had at least one same-sex sexual experience. Now, the PPs will all insist, based on their telepathic insight into all other human beings, that these men are "really" gay. But most of these self-proclaimed DCUM experts appear to have an axe to grind... Or some serious repressed desires to deal with....


So 10%? That's hardly "all" or "most". But keep pretending that all straight men are gay
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2013 11:23     Subject: Re:s/o straight men sleeping with men
Anonymous wrote:I don't know the precise percentage but it is more common than you think.



Anonymous
Post 04/24/2013 11:20     Subject: Re:s/o straight men sleeping with men
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So would someone who is gay today but had heterosexual relationships in the past have his gayness questioned because of his prior heterosexual involvements?


The truth pisses you off. Gay trumps everything else. Once you're gay you stay. You're reverse psychology is illogical and WRONG. Ask any gay man today who's out as gay if they had hetero relationships. They'll say yes and they'll say they're gay. No one questions that. But, they do question the reverse. Sorry. Life isn't fair. You're parents didn't teach you that?


I have never been involved in any gay relationship. I was just curious about the lack of consistency on this subject. Where do you come up with "gay trumps everything else"? Is it just your personal opinion or are there any studies to support this?
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2013 11:09     Subject: s/o straight men sleeping with men
Anonymous wrote:OP, I think it is really good that he told you! This was not easy for him. There are so many men who are married to women who carry this secret for their whole lives. He loves you and trusts you. OP, do you know how wonderful that is? Please be supportive and trust him. He is no more likely to cheat on you than any other husband. In fact, I think he is less so because he is honest and he loves you enough to want to share this with you. If I were you, I would love him even more for this and forgive him for not telling you sooner. You need to understand how afraid he was and how much courage it took to tell you. I haven't read the other posts here except to notice that many of them are narrow minded and ridiculous. Don't listen to them!


If you believe this goofy shit, you're in trouble. There's a reason the light bulb went off and he rushed to tell you now. Dude has got one on the side and he has a big mouth.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2013 11:07     Subject: Re:s/o straight men sleeping with men
Anonymous wrote:So would someone who is gay today but had heterosexual relationships in the past have his gayness questioned because of his prior heterosexual involvements?


The truth pisses you off. Gay trumps everything else. Once you're gay you stay. You're reverse psychology is illogical and WRONG. Ask any gay man today who's out as gay if they had hetero relationships. They'll say yes and they'll say they're gay. No one questions that. But, they do question the reverse. Sorry. Life isn't fair. You're parents didn't teach you that?
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2013 10:27     Subject: s/o straight men sleeping with men
Anonymous wrote:If you're talking about intercourse, I think the number of "straight" men who've had sex with another man is very low.

Outside prison, of course.


Prison Sex doesn't count.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2013 10:24     Subject: s/o straight men sleeping with men
OP, I think it is really good that he told you! This was not easy for him. There are so many men who are married to women who carry this secret for their whole lives. He loves you and trusts you. OP, do you know how wonderful that is? Please be supportive and trust him. He is no more likely to cheat on you than any other husband. In fact, I think he is less so because he is honest and he loves you enough to want to share this with you. If I were you, I would love him even more for this and forgive him for not telling you sooner. You need to understand how afraid he was and how much courage it took to tell you. I haven't read the other posts here except to notice that many of them are narrow minded and ridiculous. Don't listen to them!
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2013 10:14     Subject: Re:s/o straight men sleeping with men
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does same sex activities when I was in boarding school fall in the same category? If so, probably a third of the guys who were with me participated in some level of sexual activity with fellow-students. It really was pretty much the norm.

Most of us moved on to leading normal hetero-sexual lives.


Depends on what went on.


Mutual masturbation in some cases
Mutual or one way fellatio in other cases
Anal sex in rare instances
Combination of two or more of the above

Keep in mind that these activities ceased completely later and relationships were entire heterosexual
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2013 10:10     Subject: Re:s/o straight men sleeping with men
So would someone who is gay today but had heterosexual relationships in the past have his gayness questioned because of his prior heterosexual involvements?
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2013 09:52     Subject: s/o straight men sleeping with men
^^ Kinsey's research was bullshit. Read the other thread. Research methods were completely flawed.... Sorry, guys. You're gay. Just man up. Nobody on here is gay-bashing. We think it's wrong to pretend to be hetero and lie to the one person deserving of your thruths- your spouse.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2013 08:43     Subject: s/o straight men sleeping with men
You may not "agree," but science says you are wrong.

http://www.torna.do/s/Support-for-a-fluid-continuum-model-of-sexual-orientation-a-large-scale-internet-study/

Anonymous
Post 04/24/2013 08:42     Subject: s/o straight men sleeping with men
Anonymous wrote:OP, don't even bother. You will not get a useful or honest answer because your thread, like the previous thread, has been captured by a bunch of idiots. FWIW-- and you will have to google b/c I do not have the reference at hand-- a recent CDC study found that about 10 percent of self-identified straight men said they had had at least one same-sex sexual experience. Now, the PPs will all insist, based on their telepathic insight into all other human beings, that these men are "really" gay. But most of these self-proclaimed DCUM experts appear to have an axe to grind... Or some serious repressed desires to deal with....


You have the axe to grind. But, I'll agree, I do too. I'm disgusted that a man would not tell his SO that he had same sex experiences. To me, that sort of man is a gay man masquerading as straight. Once you go gay, you stay! Heard that from a bunch of gay men, also gays who were married to women and in midlife felt comfortable enough to come out. I live in a very gay friendly area, so this conversation is the norm at your average cafe. Gay men are the first tell you about their playing with guys in HS, boarding school, college, whatever and then their "straight" lives. They are GAY!!!!
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2013 07:43     Subject: s/o straight men sleeping with men
I don't agree that sexuality is fluid.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2013 07:40     Subject: Re:s/o straight men sleeping with men
Anonymous wrote:Does same sex activities when I was in boarding school fall in the same category? If so, probably a third of the guys who were with me participated in some level of sexual activity with fellow-students. It really was pretty much the norm.

Most of us moved on to leading normal hetero-sexual lives.


Depends on what went on.