Anonymous wrote:As a Christian, I find the complaints about the supposed war on Christmas to be utterly ridiculous. (I am much more up in arms about the war on Thanksgiving from ever earlier Christmas sales.). But getting up in arms about this issue seems equally ridiculous on the part of Jews.

I'm an atheist, but I get invited to church functions sometimes. A couple of years ago, not wanting to offend anyone, I went up to take the communion wafer. What was really weird was that some of the Catholics I was with actually got offended. No idea why this would be.

Anonymous wrote:A personal opinion by one lone individual is the same thing as getting up in arms?

I guess so, the same way that some Christians getting pissed about the "war on Christmas" makes us all "Christianists,' right? Whatever a Christianist is. I'm not familiar with them.

A personal opinion by one lone individual is the same thing as getting up in arms?

As a Christian, I find the complaints about the supposed war on Christmas to be utterly ridiculous. (I am much more up in arms about the war on Thanksgiving from ever earlier Christmas sales.). But getting up in arms about this issue seems equally ridiculous on the part of Jews.

Anonymous wrote:Given the standart "War on Christmas" drivel, it's pretty amazing that the resident Christianists are getting their knickers in a twist that someone would find their co-opting of Passover distasteful.

I mentioned this a few pages ago. I'm hoping that the resident non-Christians remember that it can be distasteful that someone co-opts your holiday next December.

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Anonymous wrote:Given the standart "War on Christmas" drivel, it's pretty amazing that the resident Christianists are getting their knickers in a twist that someone would find their co-opting of Passover distasteful.

Are you OP? You'll probably deny it, but we will wonder.

Nah, I doubt OP wrote this. People who use "icky" don't tend to use phrases such as "knickers in a twist," or "co-opting." Go back and read the original post. Totally different voice.

I have posted on this thread several times calling out the use of "icky," but not as a sock puppet (repeating the same ideas as if different posters are chiming in).

But they do use hackneyed phrases like "talk me down."

FWIW, I'm the poster who started with "Aww..." above, also the second to respond in a serious voice, but I've also called out "icky."

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Anonymous wrote:Given the standart "War on Christmas" drivel, it's pretty amazing that the resident Christianists are getting their knickers in a twist that someone would find their co-opting of Passover distasteful.

Are you OP? You'll probably deny it, but we will wonder.

Nah, I doubt OP wrote this. People who use "icky" don't tend to use phrases such as "knickers in a twist," or "co-opting." Go back and read the original post. Totally different voice.

I have posted on this thread several times calling out the use of "icky," but not as a sock puppet (repeating the same ideas as if different posters are chiming in).

Agreed PP. I too wonder if there's some sock puppeting going on here.

Anonymous wrote:Given the standart "War on Christmas" drivel, it's pretty amazing that the resident Christianists are getting their knickers in a twist that someone would find their co-opting of Passover distasteful.

Are you OP? You'll probably deny it, but we will wonder.

Anonymous wrote:Given the standart "War on Christmas" drivel, it's pretty amazing that the resident Christianists are getting their knickers in a twist that someone would find their co-opting of Passover distasteful.

You sound pretty nasty. If you had read any of the explanations behind this practice you would know that it is IN NO WAY about "co-opting" Passover. My guess is that your reaction actually has very little to do with any religious offense and everything to do with your personality. Using words line "Christianists" is deliberately offensive and I'd wager that you are always on the lookout for a petty offense you can express faux outrage over.

Awww, I thought 16:04 made a great final post for this thread (it was aimed at everyone) until the troll entered.

Given the standart "War on Christmas" drivel, it's pretty amazing that the resident Christianists are getting their knickers in a twist that someone would find their co-opting of Passover distasteful.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm Jewish and I can't understand why this would bother you, OP. Honestly.

Why do I care? Someone put it recently in a New Yorker article about Bar Mitzvahs for Evangelical Christian teenagers like this (paraphrasing) -- there's a difference between building bridges between religions to improve cultural understanding, and building bridges so you can run across to the other side and grab goodies and run back. If it's to increase cultural understanding, great.

I don't follow the goodies-grabbing analogy. It's not like there is a limited number of seders that can be held in the world on any given night, and if the Christians take them, there won't be any left for the Jews.

Apparently there's an unlimited amount of umbrage that can be taken by everyone in this Forum. Everyone get their goodies!

The evidence that is was is based on the Gospel of John and in the Synoptic Gospels. The fact is no one knows for sure when exactly the Last Supper occurred, but lots of historical scholarship supports the idea that the Last Supper took place during Passover. At any rate it is has long been accepted as "fact" whether it is or not.

I just read an interesting article about how the Last Supper had nothing to do with Passover and wasn't a seder. Where is the evidence that it was?