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Anonymous wrote:those same children are probably legacies for college as well so the list you see should be taken with a grain of salt in that regard.

If you consider that IQ is generally hereditary/genetic, a kid's legacy status at a school does not necessarily mean that is the ONLY reason s/he was admitted. Lots of "legacy kids" are brilliant and capable of gaining admission to the most select colleges on their own merit. People on this thread seem way too quick to forget this.

This is very true - I agree completely. Smart parents often have smart children.

Maybe, but there are plenty of examples that seem to suggest that intelligence dwindles through the generations - I have in mind America's two most famous political dynasties - Kennedy and Bush.

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Anonymous wrote:Has anybody got any insider info on this year's results yet? STA parents are welcome to comment.

The word is not as impressive as last year. I haven't seen all of the details, so I'd expect the final college placement list is still strong, but less stellar as a whole.

Sounds pretty comparable to last year. 25 percent of the class could go anywhere, and the mix will be a different mix of the dcum obsession schools. Almost all to top 30 schools. More military than recently typical, academy and Selective school ROTC.

Really nice young men who have worked hard, and their sense of wanting to do great things with the spirituality of the cathedral ethos has broken many of the thousands of ties this hyper competitive world has gifted our next generation.

What is "selective school ROTC"?

I am not the person who posted about "selective school ROTC," but these days ROTC, particularly Naval ROTC ("NROTC") is very competitive because there is the possibility of full tuition scholarships to some very good schools. So ROTC/NROTC programs at places like UVA, Notre Dame, USC, University of Texas, etc. are very difficult to get into -- it's an additional hurdle over and above being accepted into the school itself. The service academies have also gotten more selective, I assume because of the economy -- four years worth of college sounds pretty good.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:those same children are probably legacies for college as well so the list you see should be taken with a grain of salt in that regard.

If you consider that IQ is generally hereditary/genetic, a kid's legacy status at a school does not necessarily mean that is the ONLY reason s/he was admitted. Lots of "legacy kids" are brilliant and capable of gaining admission to the most select colleges on their own merit. People on this thread seem way too quick to forget this.

This is very true - I agree completely. Smart parents often have smart children.

Part of it is also that smart parents use more words with their toddlers, read them books, and the rest. Another part is that smart parents who send their kids to an elite school are also likely to be ambitious, and they aren't going to settle for junior going to some college nobody has ever heard of. This isn't to discount some heredibility of IQ, but these other things are also at work.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:those same children are probably legacies for college as well so the list you see should be taken with a grain of salt in that regard.

If you consider that IQ is generally hereditary/genetic, a kid's legacy status at a school does not necessarily mean that is the ONLY reason s/he was admitted. Lots of "legacy kids" are brilliant and capable of gaining admission to the most select colleges on their own merit. People on this thread seem way too quick to forget this.

This is very true - I agree completely. Smart parents often have smart children.

Anonymous wrote:those same children are probably legacies for college as well so the list you see should be taken with a grain of salt in that regard.

If you consider that IQ is generally hereditary/genetic, a kid's legacy status at a school does not necessarily mean that is the ONLY reason s/he was admitted. Lots of "legacy kids" are brilliant and capable of gaining admission to the most select colleges on their own merit. People on this thread seem way too quick to forget this.

those same children are probably legacies for college as well so the list you see should be taken with a grain of salt in that regard.

These are very impressive results. STA must be very selective in their admission. How do they handle alumni children or vip families that are planning on sending their children to STA but the children are not up to STA standards academically? I have several friends planning on sending their children to STA but their children are currently not at grade level at their current school in at least one subject. Are they automatically shut out or do they get admitted and then get directed to other schools later on? Just curious with such impressive stats as these are they looking at students that are able to continue these stats or is that not even a factor in admission?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has anybody got any insider info on this year's results yet? STA parents are welcome to comment.

The word is not as impressive as last year. I haven't seen all of the details, so I'd expect the final college placement list is still strong, but less stellar as a whole.

Sounds pretty comparable to last year. 25 percent of the class could go anywhere, and the mix will be a different mix of the dcum obsession schools. Almost all to top 30 schools. More military than recently typical, academy and Selective school ROTC.

Really nice young men who have worked hard, and their sense of wanting to do great things with the spirituality of the cathedral ethos has broken many of the thousands of ties this hyper competitive world has gifted our next generation.

What is "selective school ROTC"?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has anybody got any insider info on this year's results yet? STA parents are welcome to comment.

The word is not as impressive as last year. I haven't seen all of the details, so I'd expect the final college placement list is still strong, but less stellar as a whole.

Sounds pretty comparable to last year. 25 percent of the class could go anywhere, and the mix will be a different mix of the dcum obsession schools. Almost all to top 30 schools. More military than recently typical, academy and Selective school ROTC.

Really nice young men who have worked hard, and their sense of wanting to do great things with the spirituality of the cathedral ethos has broken many of the thousands of ties this hyper competitive world has gifted our next generation.

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Anonymous wrote:Are there not top Asian universities that overseas Asian students can apply to? Why are they so eager to come to college in the USA? To then stay here and take jobs from well-deserving American citizens?

Globalization. It's here. It's now. Get used to it.

Some university admission staff lately admit to seeing an uptick in "fraudulent" applications from overseas, particularly China. In other words, there's a student involved, like the son/daughter of a well connected official or mogul, but the transcript, recommendations, scores, etc. may not be real or the applicant's own.

Kind of like the dozens of school officials in Georgia, at least one of whom may face significant jail time. Who have admitted to a wide-ranging scheme of instinct their students' standardized test scores?

Anonymous wrote:Are there not top Asian universities that overseas Asian students can apply to? Why are they so eager to come to college in the USA? To then stay here and take jobs from well-deserving American citizens?

For the same reason that US kids who didn't win the crapshoot that is the admissions race for selective US colors are going to Canadian and Scottish universities.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are there not top Asian universities that overseas Asian students can apply to? Why are they so eager to come to college in the USA? To then stay here and take jobs from well-deserving American citizens?

Globalization. It's here. It's now. Get used to it.

Some university admission staff lately admit to seeing an uptick in "fraudulent" applications from overseas, particularly China. In other words, there's a student involved, like the son/daughter of a well connected official or mogul, but the transcript, recommendations, scores, etc. may not be real or the applicant's own.