Anonymous
03/01/2013 20:41
Subject: 600 homeless kids living in DC shelter...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In other news, didn't the First Lady look so lovely reading the Oscar award the other night?
That dress could have fed a lot of kiddos, and it'll never be worn in public again.
Yeah, I'm going there.
Yeah! Damn that uppity negress! Who does she think she is? She couldn't hold Nancy Reagan's handbag!
shame on you That was nasty and you know it.
Anonymous
03/01/2013 20:38
Subject: 600 homeless kids living in DC shelter...
zumbamama wrote:I'd like to organize a series of fundraisers. Can anyone recommend a reputable charity organization that would directly benefit these kids?
Zumbamama brings us back to the topic.
Zumba, I can't answer about an organization. However, having worked with homeless children (in another country) I can tell you that these kids need continuity in their daytime lives - getting to the doctor, buying clothes, school enrollment, finding an after school program to keep them busy, happy, fed a snack and to help them do their homework, and transportation to get to things.
Keep in mind that families cycle through the shelter, so if you want to benefit the kids directly, you might have a hard time keeping up with them. Maybe you can find an after school program that serves the neighborhood where DC General is located. (I can't tell if the kids go to the local school while housed in the shelter, or if they continue to go to the schools they were attending previously.) Maybe you can find a program that supports the parents who are in a job search.
Let us know what you end up doing.
Anonymous
03/01/2013 20:26
Subject: Re:600 homeless kids living in DC shelter...
Anonymous wrote:I'm not being rude and I'm deeply saddened by this article, but what exactly can we or I, do about this situation?
Are you seriously that dense? Really?
Anonymous
03/01/2013 20:21
Subject: 600 homeless kids living in DC shelter...
Actually, Nancy didn't have to help homeless kids. You see, we didn't experience mass street homelessness until AFTER her husband shut down mental institutions and then we hit the recession. Homelessness really took off thanks to Ronnie.
Anonymous
03/01/2013 20:18
Subject: 600 homeless kids living in DC shelter...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In other news, didn't the First Lady look so lovely reading the Oscar award the other night?
That dress could have fed a lot of kiddos, and it'll never be worn in public again.
Yeah, I'm going there.
Yeah! Damn that uppity negress! Who does she think she is? She couldn't hold Nancy Reagan's handbag!
This racial baiting is getting old. I made a similar observation and I am black.
You can be an idiot and be black too.
Making insulting coments is not a persuasive argument. Make sensible arguments of your case and we might get somewhere with a discussion. Everyone of every race can be an idiot, of course. How is the post that you are responding to idiotic? Is it because it is not blindly supporting every single thing Obama and his wife do without criticism? Using racism as a response to everything you don't agree with weakens the case for reacism when it really does apply, as with these homeless people, unemployment, promotions, housing, education. Accusing people of racism when it doesn't apply makes me think of the boy who cried "wolf". There are many, many situations in which racism is a real problem for black people. Don't be the one who keeps calling wolf when none is around.
There are many other posts about politicians and their wives and their lives whether you love them or not. Please let's keep the focus of this thread on the homeless kids who need help if that is possible.
Can you recall anyone asking how many homeless children Nancy Reagan could have fed with one of her dresses? Of course not. Blacks are expected to have some special obligation to the poor because, it is imagined, that these are their people.
Anonymous
03/01/2013 17:56
Subject: 600 homeless kids living in DC shelter...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In other news, didn't the First Lady look so lovely reading the Oscar award the other night?
That dress could have fed a lot of kiddos, and it'll never be worn in public again.
Yeah, I'm going there.
Yeah! Damn that uppity negress! Who does she think she is? She couldn't hold Nancy Reagan's handbag!
This racial baiting is getting old. I made a similar observation and I am black.
You can be an idiot and be black too.
Making insulting coments is not a persuasive argument. Make sensible arguments of your case and we might get somewhere with a discussion. Everyone of every race can be an idiot, of course. How is the post that you are responding to idiotic? Is it because it is not blindly supporting every single thing Obama and his wife do without criticism? Using racism as a response to everything you don't agree with weakens the case for reacism when it really does apply, as with these homeless people, unemployment, promotions, housing, education. Accusing people of racism when it doesn't apply makes me think of the boy who cried "wolf". There are many, many situations in which racism is a real problem for black people. Don't be the one who keeps calling wolf when none is around.
There are many other posts about politicians and their wives and their lives whether you love them or not. Please let's keep the focus of this thread on the homeless kids who need help if that is possible.
Anonymous
03/01/2013 15:29
Subject: 600 homeless kids living in DC shelter...
Anonymous wrote:
If you a full-time college student depending on scholarships and no job, why would you have a child. I understand that birth control fails. She should have considered abortion or adoption
The 19-yoa with the three children should really have her parental rights revoked. I understand that at 14 she was probably neglected and abused herself and that is what led her to become a 14-yoa birth mother. I cannot call her a parent or mother. At 19 she is desirous of a GED. I think social services should help her to obtain a GED and the children placed into the system for adoption, not foster placement. She is incapable of providing for those children.
I do understand that some of the families are the victims of hard times. But, I bet most of them made piss-poor choices and who should pay for their failed choices. Should the innocents pay and grow-up to repeat the dismal cycle. Should the taxpayers. Who?
What a hate filled response. You sound awful. Ireland had Magdalene Laundries for the women, now that hardly is an example to go by. Adoption is voluntary, only native americans and Australian aboriginals have had it forced on them. These kids might be in a shelter, but that is not a permanent home and they are not motherlesss. GED is useful, but if youu are young then you still have time.
Everybody makes bad choices, and in some way a child is a choice, but I would not call a child a bad choice.
All teen mothers are not bad mothers, my grandmother was a refugee with 2 children, pregnant, only owned her clothes and spent evenings in a bomb shelter, not knowing if her husband was going to survive the war.
Anonymous
03/01/2013 15:20
Subject: Re:600 homeless kids living in DC shelter...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That was a crappy article. Read it earlier today. I have a hard time feeling sympathy for someone who knowingly has 13 kids. I think they could have found other folks who were more sympathetic to further the cause.
Or the 19 year old who has a 5 year-old, 2 year-old, and 6 month old. I feel sorry for the kids but not the mom.
really? you don't feel sorry for a girl who had a child at the age of 14? yeah. she probably brought it on herself.
A 19 year old with a 5 year old? Yes I would feel sorry for her. However to go on and have TWO more children - no, I no longer feel sorry for her. I weep for her kids. What chance do they have?
This girl obviously has issues in her life if she was pregnant at 14. I'm sure those issues were only compounded by having a baby. Please have a heart. This girl had nobody to protect her at 14 and having a baby doesn't fix most people's issues.
What bout having 3 babies before you are 20, does that fix things? If it so bad having babies at 14 then why have more?
One of my best friends had her baby at 15. She had her next baby at 33. After the first one, she figured out where they came from and made sure she did not compound her problems with more of them until she was no longer dating drug dealers. It has been a long road for her, with very unsupportive, uninterested parents. However, she got her associates degree in radiology and makes a pretty decent living doing untrasounds. She knew that more babies would not elevate her out of the bowels of Newport News, Virginia.
Sorry, winners don't make excuses.
NP. Life is not that simple. I had my first child at 15; second at 19; third at 21. Yes, all to the same man. Although I knew (and know) about condoms, we didn't really use them. Every baby was an "oops" because I relied too heavily on the pull-out method. Abortion/adoption was never a serious consideration with any of these pregnancies.
I'm lucky that I have a supportive father for my children (who is now my husband of 11.5 years) and am amazingly supportive family. I know that others aren't this lucky, so I always feel deep compassion for teen mothers.
What is so complicated about using birth control??? Condoms are not one's only option. PLease. once, understood. twice, kind of get it. three times, you are an idiot.
Anonymous
03/01/2013 14:53
Subject: 600 homeless kids living in DC shelter...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:13:54 here again. And for the record, I'm a foster mom. I have no respect for these teen moms, they are irresponsible, selfish, and abusive. It is abusive to bring children into this world when all you can think about is who next you can open your legs to.
These children are blameless, but unfortunatly they grow up to be adults with real word concequences.
To do my part, all I can hope is that I can show them what a stable home looks like, and pray to God each night that these egg donors got get a FREE IUD which are readily available.
With this attitude, you should not be a foster Mom...especially to teen girls. While I don't consider them heroes, I respect these girls for accepting their responsibilities and raising their children as best they can (unlike the thousands of teen girls who abort their babies instead).
I'm a foster mom too. I'm not going to go as far as the first poster-- but last poster I am guessing you are not a foster mom. Sadly enough I can not say that I have seen much of 'accepting their responsibilities and raising their children as best they can.'
Teen pregnancy is a tragic situation. I'm as pro-life as they come. This article made me deeply uncomfortable. It talked about this huge families. One of the profiled families had 13 children- if I recollect the article correctly only 5 of the children were living with her. Where are the other 8??
"As best they can" speaks to all spectrums of parenthood (from good to bad). Some teens just aren't properly equipped with the know-how to be a good mother. As a teen Mom, I'm 100% sure I screwed up at different times during my daughter's upbringing. Thankfully, I had/have a supportive family and was able to grow into being a good mother. Not all young Moms have these role models, so they mimic the poor behavior they see around them.
So, that's what I meant by my post. Not that they're all mother of the year contenders.
Anonymous
03/01/2013 14:44
Subject: 600 homeless kids living in DC shelter...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:13:54 here again. And for the record, I'm a foster mom. I have no respect for these teen moms, they are irresponsible, selfish, and abusive. It is abusive to bring children into this world when all you can think about is who next you can open your legs to.
These children are blameless, but unfortunatly they grow up to be adults with real word concequences.
To do my part, all I can hope is that I can show them what a stable home looks like, and pray to God each night that these egg donors got get a FREE IUD which are readily available.
With this attitude, you should not be a foster Mom...especially to teen girls. While I don't consider them heroes, I respect these girls for accepting their responsibilities and raising their children as best they can (unlike the thousands of teen girls who abort their babies instead).
I'm a foster mom too. I'm not going to go as far as the first poster-- but last poster I am guessing you are not a foster mom. Sadly enough I can not say that I have seen much of 'accepting their responsibilities and raising their children as best they can.'
Teen pregnancy is a tragic situation. I'm as pro-life as they come. This article made me deeply uncomfortable. It talked about this huge families. One of the profiled families had 13 children- if I recollect the article correctly only 5 of the children were living with her. Where are the other 8??
zumbamama
03/01/2013 14:42
Subject: 600 homeless kids living in DC shelter...
I'd like to organize a series of fundraisers. Can anyone recommend a reputable charity organization that would directly benefit these kids?
Anonymous
03/01/2013 14:38
Subject: Re:600 homeless kids living in DC shelter...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm not being rude and I'm deeply saddened by this article, but what exactly can we or I, do about this situation?
Support free abortion to anyone and everyone who wants it. Free birth control pills and condos, without the need of prescription. Free vasectomies.
I'll take you up on the free condo--- where do I sign up for that
Anonymous
03/01/2013 14:20
Subject: Re:600 homeless kids living in DC shelter...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That was a crappy article. Read it earlier today. I have a hard time feeling sympathy for someone who knowingly has 13 kids. I think they could have found other folks who were more sympathetic to further the cause.
Or the 19 year old who has a 5 year-old, 2 year-old, and 6 month old. I feel sorry for the kids but not the mom.
well that 19 yr old was probably once that 5yr old who was not properly educated, parented, well-cared for.
by the time she was 14 she very well may have been sexually molested...which is why she started having babies so early...
no one ever built her up...or gave her the idea that there was more to life than the ignorance and desolation around her.
Do I condone continued baby-making -- no
Do I empathize and understand the dysfunction from which it was born -- you bet.
10 years from now...these little kids we so-called feel sorry for...very well be the parents we so easily despise and dismiss.
Anonymous
03/01/2013 14:17
Subject: Re:600 homeless kids living in DC shelter...
This thread makes me sad. So much judgement and so little empathy.
Anonymous
03/01/2013 14:10
Subject: 600 homeless kids living in DC shelter...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In other news, didn't the First Lady look so lovely reading the Oscar award the other night?
That dress could have fed a lot of kiddos, and it'll never be worn in public again.
Yeah, I'm going there.
Yeah! Damn that uppity negress! Who does she think she is? She couldn't hold Nancy Reagan's handbag!
This racial baiting is getting old. I made a similar observation and I am black.
You can be an idiot and be black too.