What if the child doesn't prep, and has high scores, and wants a rich learning environment, not to just crank out a bunch of work to prove how advanced s/he is? Then where do they go?

But what about the converse, if the child is prepped and is found eligible for AAP. Does that child truly belong in AAP?

You bet the child deserves this placement. No doubt about it.

But what about the converse, if the child is prepped and is found eligible for AAP. Does that child truly belong in AAP?

If a child doesn't prep and doesn't get into AAP the child truly deserves non-AAP placement. The appropriate fit is thus achieved.

Any child that does school work at home is cheating. This is prep nd the child should automatically be expelled from school.

Prepping is the norm in certain communities. To not prep would be regarded as not providing one's child with the best chances of being placed in a more challenging academic environment. Until FCPS decides to have surprise aptitude or IQ tests, some will always prep, some will chose not to and others will have no idea how to. AAP is not a GT program - it is a program for a few who make it on their own laurels and for many whose parents are educated, aware and persistent.

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To prove my kid doesn't prep, he has gotten an A on every pop test or quiz in middle school so far. Prepping is not really necessary and distorts the true intellectual and academic picture. it's really akin to cheating as many have stated.

This isn't proof of anything....

It sure does. My child does not cheat. He hasn't opened a book in his life, done any work sheets or practised problems (in school or at home). His intelligence is innate and natural. It is not artificial.

Sorry, I don't think that just because he can easily pass pop quizzes or tests that he didn't prep for the CogAT when he was in elementary school. I also don't think the fact that he isn't doing the work shows that he is truly intellectual. I'm frankly surprised it is okay with you that he hasn't 'opened a book in his life, done any worksheets or practised problems.' My child does all work at home and school even if she knows the answers beforehand.

What's the purpose of school and parenting if preparation is immoral and considered cheating. Put thchildren in a zoo with a DCUM zoo keeper and feed them all the same slop. Hey, that's an grand Darwinian notion.

May I ask, is the percentile that people are reporting here an average of the verbal, quantitative, and reasoning scores? I have those three scores, but not one score.

And is 95% the cutoff for AAP?

Thanks.

PP-sorry, I hadn't read on. We hadn't prepped and DC did well.

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Anonymous wrote:It would be interesting to do a double blind study of the role of prepping. Baseline the kids with a WISC. Then, that 50 kids that are prepped and 50 are not. Compare the variation of WISC to cogat based on prepping.

You can apparently prep for the WISC, too. When we took our child in for the WISC, the examiner noted that DC had scored highest on the sections that "can't be prepped." The implications was that we could prep DC and come back in a year to get a higher score. The examiner mentioned how so many FCPS parents are really neurtotic about AAP and so many of them prep. It was clear form our DC's score that we hadn't prepped.

Funny, we had a similar experience when we took DC for the WPPSI for independent school admissions. An upper NW DC testing/psych practice. Tester came out w/ DC and sort of smiled at us and said: Refreshing.

We didn't get it. Tester sort of sighed and said they tested many kids from MOCO with parents who were not happy with how DCs tested on school gifted placement testing. Were doing all possible to squeeze out a higher score.

Anonymous wrote:The world needs ditch digger too.

You're delusional if you really think it makes or breaks your child's future to be in AAP. You have to know your child. For some, it would be devastating to always be at the bottom in AAP. Also, the AAP kids are constantly told how smart they are in school (I have one and I've seen it). I think some of them tend to rest a bit on their laurels. For some kids, being at the top of the class in Gen Ed will be better for them and they can end up on the same place. Math in MS is determined by test ability, so they can take Algebra in 7th grade if they are ready, just like an AAP student can (and not all AAP students will qualify). In high school, it's all open AP classes and kids take different paths to get there.

It's really an individual choice based on your particular child. I happen to think for my DC, who would really have to stretch to get into AAP, it's not worth it. My particular child would be better served in Gen Ed.

99th Percentile VQN - no prep - people asking this question sound bitter and cynical

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To prove my kid doesn't prep, he has gotten an A on every pop test or quiz in middle school so far. Prepping is not really necessary and distorts the true intellectual and academic picture. it's really akin to cheating as many have stated.

This isn't proof of anything....

It sure does. My child does not cheat. He hasn't opened a book in his life, done any work sheets or practised problems (in school or at home). His intelligence is innate and natural. It is not artificial.

Hasn't opened a book in his life. That's a sign of brilliance if ever I hear it! Congratulations!

Haha, people who think the scores can't be prepped. Dream on.