Anonymous
Post 01/31/2013 19:16     Subject: Any Europeans who aren't buying RE only be ause the way houses are built here?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm not a civil engineer, or in any way an expert in construction. I have, however, lived in older and newer housing in the area. When we first made our move from DC to Va, we moved from an older apartment building to brand new construction in Clarendon. The new building was a peice of shit!!! We literally heard our neighbors sneeze because the walls were so thin and the insulation so bad. Holes started appearing in the hallway walls because it didn't take much to puncture the cheap drywall. The garage door was ALWAYS broken. We left after one year and vowed never to live in a new building again.


Amin to that! So how can you justify paying with your life, sweat, and hard-earned cash for something like that??? Seriously!? Why aren't people using their brains instead of trying to keep up with the Jones' and fulfill societal projections in what home and where they should live? Why are people willing to go chain and ball paying $1m for something similarly bad?


Well, we bought our piece of shit new construction big house in Bethesda ten years ago for $1 mil and it is now worth $2 mil. Comps all selling for that and we just refinanced and it appraised at 2 mil. So I guess our brains worked just fine.

I must admit though, moving here ten years ago from another state, I thought we were nuts to pay that much and that the market would tank immediately following the close. The market did tank, but our neighborhood really held it's value. Inside the beltway - great schools. As other pps have said, it's not about the construction, it's about the location, location, location. We didn't buy to keep up with anyone, we bought big because there are three generations of our family living in the house, our commute is very short, and we live in a great school district.


Congrats, but as you said, the value of your home is in your location and the quality of your schools. Thankfully for you, most Americans are too ignorant to care much about the quality of the materials your home is made of.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2013 18:06     Subject: Any Europeans who aren't buying RE only be ause the way houses are built here?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm not a civil engineer, or in any way an expert in construction. I have, however, lived in older and newer housing in the area. When we first made our move from DC to Va, we moved from an older apartment building to brand new construction in Clarendon. The new building was a peice of shit!!! We literally heard our neighbors sneeze because the walls were so thin and the insulation so bad. Holes started appearing in the hallway walls because it didn't take much to puncture the cheap drywall. The garage door was ALWAYS broken. We left after one year and vowed never to live in a new building again.


Amin to that! So how can you justify paying with your life, sweat, and hard-earned cash for something like that??? Seriously!? Why aren't people using their brains instead of trying to keep up with the Jones' and fulfill societal projections in what home and where they should live? Why are people willing to go chain and ball paying $1m for something similarly bad?


Well, we bought our piece of shit new construction big house in Bethesda ten years ago for $1 mil and it is now worth $2 mil. Comps all selling for that and we just refinanced and it appraised at 2 mil. So I guess our brains worked just fine.

I must admit though, moving here ten years ago from another state, I thought we were nuts to pay that much and that the market would tank immediately following the close. The market did tank, but our neighborhood really held it's value. Inside the beltway - great schools. As other pps have said, it's not about the construction, it's about the location, location, location. We didn't buy to keep up with anyone, we bought big because there are three generations of our family living in the house, our commute is very short, and we live in a great school district.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2013 17:20     Subject: Any Europeans who aren't buying RE only be ause the way houses are built here?
I thought the Ikea-houses were becoming the new "thing" in Europe?
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2013 17:08     Subject: Re:Any Europeans who aren't buying RE only be ause the way houses are built here?
Anonymous wrote:Funny. Remembering the housing stock in Holland. Centuries-old buildings with the steepest stairs, tiniest rooms, and bathrooms with no room to even sit on the toilet. I'll take wood, thanks very much.

Ha ha, there are actually some similar rowhouses here in DC, we lived in one. Tiny rooms, one the size of the closet, kitchen where one person barely can turn around and steep stairs, but lots of charm and made of real brick, although, the walls are starting to sink since bricks are laid crooked.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2013 13:11     Subject: Any Europeans who aren't buying RE only be ause the way houses are built here?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm not a civil engineer, or in any way an expert in construction. I have, however, lived in older and newer housing in the area. When we first made our move from DC to Va, we moved from an older apartment building to brand new construction in Clarendon. The new building was a peice of shit!!! We literally heard our neighbors sneeze because the walls were so thin and the insulation so bad. Holes started appearing in the hallway walls because it didn't take much to puncture the cheap drywall. The garage door was ALWAYS broken. We left after one year and vowed never to live in a new building again.


Amin to that! So how can you justify paying with your life, sweat, and hard-earned cash for something like that??? Seriously!? Why aren't people using their brains instead of trying to keep up with the Jones' and fulfill societal projections in what home and where they should live? Why are people willing to go chain and ball paying $1m for something similarly bad?


so you are comparing quickly built apartments to houses. duh


New houses go up quicker than new apartment buildings. I don't think the materials or the construction methods differ much.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2013 13:09     Subject: Any Europeans who aren't buying RE only be ause the way houses are built here?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm not a civil engineer, or in any way an expert in construction. I have, however, lived in older and newer housing in the area. When we first made our move from DC to Va, we moved from an older apartment building to brand new construction in Clarendon. The new building was a peice of shit!!! We literally heard our neighbors sneeze because the walls were so thin and the insulation so bad. Holes started appearing in the hallway walls because it didn't take much to puncture the cheap drywall. The garage door was ALWAYS broken. We left after one year and vowed never to live in a new building again.


Amin to that! So how can you justify paying with your life, sweat, and hard-earned cash for something like that??? Seriously!? Why aren't people using their brains instead of trying to keep up with the Jones' and fulfill societal projections in what home and where they should live? Why are people willing to go chain and ball paying $1m for something similarly bad?


so you are comparing quickly built apartments to houses. duh
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2013 12:56     Subject: Any Europeans who aren't buying RE only be ause the way houses are built here?
Anonymous wrote:I'm not a civil engineer, or in any way an expert in construction. I have, however, lived in older and newer housing in the area. When we first made our move from DC to Va, we moved from an older apartment building to brand new construction in Clarendon. The new building was a peice of shit!!! We literally heard our neighbors sneeze because the walls were so thin and the insulation so bad. Holes started appearing in the hallway walls because it didn't take much to puncture the cheap drywall. The garage door was ALWAYS broken. We left after one year and vowed never to live in a new building again.


Amin to that! So how can you justify paying with your life, sweat, and hard-earned cash for something like that??? Seriously!? Why aren't people using their brains instead of trying to keep up with the Jones' and fulfill societal projections in what home and where they should live? Why are people willing to go chain and ball paying $1m for something similarly bad?
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2013 11:25     Subject: Any Europeans who aren't buying RE only be ause the way houses are built here?
I'm not a civil engineer, or in any way an expert in construction. I have, however, lived in older and newer housing in the area. When we first made our move from DC to Va, we moved from an older apartment building to brand new construction in Clarendon. The new building was a peice of shit!!! We literally heard our neighbors sneeze because the walls were so thin and the insulation so bad. Holes started appearing in the hallway walls because it didn't take much to puncture the cheap drywall. The garage door was ALWAYS broken. We left after one year and vowed never to live in a new building again.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2013 11:00     Subject: Re:Any Europeans who aren't buying RE only be ause the way houses are built here?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: OP here.

I want to clarify that I am NOT into Medieval housing, so, what I have in mind is a new buildings versus something from 300 years ago; also, I hate the burbs, and I am ok with smallish and no back yard versus big house with back yard.

Basically, I have a serious hang-up or a problem if you wish paying $_00,000 for this:

http://www.nekretnine.rs/data/images/2012/09/17/img_3781T1347889861_400.jpg


Versus this:

http://green-home-product-source.com/image-files/tyvek-1.jpg





Why are there people standing on the euro house?

If you tried to build a house like that in places that freeze or moisture you are going to have a lot of cracking.

Standard build codes require US homes to with stand hurricane force winds I don't think that standard is in place in europe or in the past homes of the 50s


Hmmm, we all saw how well these codes and the respective houses have worked out for the Sandy victims.


old homes
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2013 09:58     Subject: Re:Any Europeans who aren't buying RE only be ause the way houses are built here?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: OP here.

I want to clarify that I am NOT into Medieval housing, so, what I have in mind is a new buildings versus something from 300 years ago; also, I hate the burbs, and I am ok with smallish and no back yard versus big house with back yard.

Basically, I have a serious hang-up or a problem if you wish paying $_00,000 for this:

http://www.nekretnine.rs/data/images/2012/09/17/img_3781T1347889861_400.jpg


Versus this:

http://green-home-product-source.com/image-files/tyvek-1.jpg





Why are there people standing on the euro house?

If you tried to build a house like that in places that freeze or moisture you are going to have a lot of cracking.

Standard build codes require US homes to with stand hurricane force winds I don't think that standard is in place in europe or in the past homes of the 50s


Hmmm, we all saw how well these codes and the respective houses have worked out for the Sandy victims.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2013 09:45     Subject: Any Europeans who aren't buying RE only be ause the way houses are built here?
Anonymous wrote:You can build new or old shit , most everything built in the dc area is average to high shit because people can afford to pay more. In the south , not so much.


Actually most of the near suburbs like Bethesda have really ugly post war houses. Unless you go over $1.4 million, the houses are not nice to look at.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2013 09:41     Subject: Any Europeans who aren't buying RE only be ause the way houses are built here?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thats why we bought new


hahahahahahahahahahahaha....

Oh this makes me laugh.

New construction is terrible quality. You're much better off buying an older home if you are looking for higher quality workmanship and materials.


hahhaaha jokes on you
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2013 09:41     Subject: Re:Any Europeans who aren't buying RE only be ause the way houses are built here?
Anonymous wrote: OP here.

I want to clarify that I am NOT into Medieval housing, so, what I have in mind is a new buildings versus something from 300 years ago; also, I hate the burbs, and I am ok with smallish and no back yard versus big house with back yard.

Basically, I have a serious hang-up or a problem if you wish paying $_00,000 for this:

http://www.nekretnine.rs/data/images/2012/09/17/img_3781T1347889861_400.jpg


Versus this:

http://green-home-product-source.com/image-files/tyvek-1.jpg





Why are there people standing on the euro house?

If you tried to build a house like that in places that freeze or moisture you are going to have a lot of cracking.

Standard build codes require US homes to with stand hurricane force winds I don't think that standard is in place in europe or in the past homes of the 50s
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2013 09:36     Subject: Any Europeans who aren't buying RE only be ause the way houses are built here?
Anonymous wrote:Thats why we bought new


hahahahahahahahahahahaha....

Oh this makes me laugh.

New construction is terrible quality. You're much better off buying an older home if you are looking for higher quality workmanship and materials.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2013 09:24     Subject: Re:Any Europeans who aren't buying RE only be ause the way houses are built here?
Anonymous wrote: OP here.

I want to clarify that I am NOT into Medieval housing, so, what I have in mind is a new buildings versus something from 300 years ago; also, I hate the burbs, and I am ok with smallish and no back yard versus big house with back yard.

Basically, I have a serious hang-up or a problem if you wish paying $_00,000 for this:

http://www.nekretnine.rs/data/images/2012/09/17/img_3781T1347889861_400.jpg


Versus this:

http://green-home-product-source.com/image-files/tyvek-1.jpg


OP, not much to say after comparing those two photos--a new house built from wooden composite and a new clay brick house do not compare at all, not just inch by inch for what you pay for, but how it holds up in the next years, how much work it needs, and in terms of vulnerability to natural disaster.

IT DOES NOT COMPARE, so unless you choose either to move back to where you are from and get one of those clay brick homes made, or import your materials, and the construction workers who have the expertise to build homes like that one, and then you can have built the home you want--(are you that rich and is it really all worth it?).

So, as final recommendation, in Rome do as.....you know the rest.