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Anonymous wrote:Elementary schools do not create TJ students. It is a combination of genetics and drive.

finally, someone with right head spoke about TJ

Seriously!!!
Did you see the percentage of kids accepted from non AAP schools?
It does matter which elementary school your kid goes to.

Um, not sure if you mean "Seriously!!!" Or "Seriously?!!!" Are you confirming or questioning?

Statistics showing higher acceptance rates to TJ of AAP kids compared to non-AAP kids does NOT demonstrate that an AAP elementary education is the cause of those kids having a higher acceptance rate. One may just as easily argue that kids who are more likely to be accepted at TJ were also more likely to be eligible for AAP education. Don't confuse causalities.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Elementary schools do not create TJ students. It is a combination of genetics and drive.

finally, someone with right head spoke about TJ

Seriously!!!
Did you see the percentage of kids accepted from non AAP schools?
It does matter which elementary school your kid goes to.

Um, not sure if you mean "Seriously!!!" Or "Seriously?!!!" Are you confirming or questioning?

Statistics showing higher acceptance rates to TJ of AAP kids compared to non-AAP kids does NOT demonstrate that an AAP elementary education is the cause of those kids having a higher acceptance rate. One may just as easily argue that kids who are more likely to be accepted at TJ were also more likely to be eligible for AAP education. Don't confuse causalities.

No... I just understand that statistics can be used to argue both sides of an issue and be factually correct for both sides at the same time. The only way to look at issues, like education, is to investigate both the quantitative and qualitative aspects, otherwise we will fail to fully understand the question at hand.

Anonymous wrote:And if Great Schools rating are the only thing you look at in determining whether a school is acceptable...then you are REALLY doing your child a disservice.

Who said they were?

Both Kilmer and Longfellow are currently rated "10s" on GS. This is partially a reflection of the fact that both schools have large AAP centers with kids who score well on standardized tests. In terms of "stars," Longfellow currently gets four and Kilmer three. These are based on the subjective ratings of people who voluntarily decide to rate the schools. More people have rated Kilmer (22) than Longfellow (7), and the main reason Kilmer seems to get a lower rating is that some parents don't particularly like the Kilmer administration and front office staff. I've had kids at both schools and did think Longfellow was run better than Kilmer (better principal, more frequent communications with parents and, yes, a friendlier front-office staff). On the other hand, I thought Kilmer parents were more friendly and relaxed than those at Longfellow, and that's not something that GS tries to capture.

Returning now entirely to the thread topic, I hope the parents at the new LR AAP center have a great experience there.

Anonymous wrote:And if Great Schools rating are the only thing you look at in determining whether a school is acceptable...then you are REALLY doing your child a disservice.

You from arlington?

And if Great Schools rating are the only thing you look at in determining whether a school is acceptable...then you are REALLY doing your child a disservice.

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Anonymous wrote:The issue is not just about friends in split feeders...it is can the base school prepare the AAP kids for Longfellow - one the most academically challenging Mss in the area...the answer is NO. And the idea that the street is more on the parents then kids just tells me the people who keep saying this do NOT understand the emotional needs of gifted children....please education yourself and read some books if you are going to put your 2 cents in.

SMH - no idea what you are trying to say here. Lecture us if you must, but please do so in plain English.

Most Lemon Road students will go to Kilmer, not Longfellow. Longfellow is not MIT, by the way, and children who attend schools other than Haycock do fine there.

Kilmer and Longfellow are now both the same scores. Kilmer was a 9 last year but this year it is a 10 just like longfellow. I assuem the test scores have gone up.

The "ratings" are not based in science. They are based on opinion of the respondents. It just takes a few parents to lower a score or raise a score.

The numerical 1-10 ratings are based on test scores, not the opinions of "respondents." The "stars" are based on the latter.

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Anonymous wrote:The issue is not just about friends in split feeders...it is can the base school prepare the AAP kids for Longfellow - one the most academically challenging Mss in the area...the answer is NO. And the idea that the street is more on the parents then kids just tells me the people who keep saying this do NOT understand the emotional needs of gifted children....please education yourself and read some books if you are going to put your 2 cents in.

SMH - no idea what you are trying to say here. Lecture us if you must, but please do so in plain English.

Most Lemon Road students will go to Kilmer, not Longfellow. Longfellow is not MIT, by the way, and children who attend schools other than Haycock do fine there.

Kilmer and Longfellow are now both the same scores. Kilmer was a 9 last year but this year it is a 10 just like longfellow. I assuem the test scores have gone up.

The "ratings" are not based in science. They are based on opinion of the respondents. It just takes a few parents to lower a score or raise a score.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The issue is not just about friends in split feeders...it is can the base school prepare the AAP kids for Longfellow - one the most academically challenging Mss in the area...the answer is NO. And the idea that the street is more on the parents then kids just tells me the people who keep saying this do NOT understand the emotional needs of gifted children....please education yourself and read some books if you are going to put your 2 cents in.

SMH - no idea what you are trying to say here. Lecture us if you must, but please do so in plain English.

Most Lemon Road students will go to Kilmer, not Longfellow. Longfellow is not MIT, by the way, and children who attend schools other than Haycock do fine there.

+1 One child went to LR, one went to LLIV at our base school. (We pupil placed one at LR) Both do well in AAP at Longfellow. Each child is different. IME AAP Centers do not have a magic formula.

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Anonymous wrote:The issue is not just about friends in split feeders...it is can the base school prepare the AAP kids for Longfellow - one the most academically challenging Mss in the area...the answer is NO. And the idea that the street is more on the parents then kids just tells me the people who keep saying this do NOT understand the emotional needs of gifted children....please education yourself and read some books if you are going to put your 2 cents in.

SMH - no idea what you are trying to say here. Lecture us if you must, but please do so in plain English.

Most Lemon Road students will go to Kilmer, not Longfellow. Longfellow is not MIT, by the way, and children who attend schools other than Haycock do fine there.

Kilmer and Longfellow are now both the same scores. Kilmer was a 9 last year but this year it is a 10 just like longfellow. I assuem the test scores have gone up.

Anonymous wrote:The issue is not just about friends in split feeders...it is can the base school prepare the AAP kids for Longfellow - one the most academically challenging Mss in the area...the answer is NO. And the idea that the street is more on the parents then kids just tells me the people who keep saying this do NOT understand the emotional needs of gifted children....please education yourself and read some books if you are going to put your 2 cents in.

SMH - no idea what you are trying to say here. Lecture us if you must, but please do so in plain English.

Most Lemon Road students will go to Kilmer, not Longfellow. Longfellow is not MIT, by the way, and children who attend schools other than Haycock do fine there.

The issue is not just about friends in split feeders...it is can the base school prepare the AAP kids for Longfellow - one the most academically challenging Mss in the area...the answer is NO. And the idea that the street is more on the parents then kids just tells me the people who keep saying this do NOT understand the emotional needs of gifted children....please education yourself and read some books if you are going to put your 2 cents in.

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Anonymous wrote:The principal can only do so much anyway. I would get to know the Lemon Road PTA and see about planning PTA AAP events next year and work through the school board to have them help get a quality program at Lemon Road.

Not a Lemon Road parent, but last I checked, the PTA schedules events for the school as a whole. I have children in AAP, and never, have there been PTA AAP events, they work on building community, not segregation.

We are at an amazing center ain a different cluster. Our school does it this way too. They specifically and openly state that special activities are for all the students. Do some, like Science Olympiad, end up primarilly AAP? Yes. But they are not exclusively offered to AAP.

It makes for a much more positive school community than the schools I know that segregate activities for only AAP.

That's actually how the Haycock PTA is set up now. I think the PP just was hoping that the plans for the new AAP center at Lemon Road could be shared with parents in a coordinated fashion.

As a Lemon Road current Lemon Road parent the plans are still being formulated from what I understand. Information is not being withheld from anyone. In addition, yes. ANY AAP student who lives within the base school boundary of Lemon Road, Westgate and Shrevewood will go to Lemon Road next year unless a parent ops to keep them at their base school.
Lemon Road is a split feeder school in which about 25 percent goes to Longfellow and 75 percent to Kilmer and the students to survive as they do remain friends. In addition, because of the 'fish bowl' of an area that we live in, they are on the same soccer teams, go to the same pools in the summer and see each other through out the school year at different sporting competitions or band events, etc. Kids will be fine and make/ maintain friends, this transition/ change is more stressful on parents than the kids.

'then the Cluster I kids who are moving to LR AAP center will leave their friends and then reunite with them again at middle school. '

that's not pleasant at all!

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Anonymous wrote:The principal can only do so much anyway. I would get to know the Lemon Road PTA and see about planning PTA AAP events next year and work through the school board to have them help get a quality program at Lemon Road.

Not a Lemon Road parent, but last I checked, the PTA schedules events for the school as a whole. I have children in AAP, and never, have there been PTA AAP events, they work on building community, not segregation.

We are at an amazing center ain a different cluster. Our school does it this way too. They specifically and openly state that special activities are for all the students. Do some, like Science Olympiad, end up primarilly AAP? Yes. But they are not exclusively offered to AAP.

It makes for a much more positive school community than the schools I know that segregate activities for only AAP.

That's actually how the Haycock PTA is set up now. I think the PP just was hoping that the plans for the new AAP center at Lemon Road could be shared with parents in a coordinated fashion.