Last year the pool scores were 132 or higher on NNAT or Cogat composite score.

No scores received yet for 2nd grade son but I'm curious what you all think about the posted benchmarks?

From FCPS AAP -- The 2012-13 benchmark score for the 2nd grade screening pool is 132 on the First Grade NNAT or 95th percentile on the Second Grade Cognitive Abilities Test (CogAT) Composite score.

Last fall (2011) our AART told us that the prior year (and perhaps for 2011-12?) benchmark the kids needed to reach the stated benchmark (132??) on 3 out of 4 of the test scores (this included 1 score NNAT and 3 scores for Cognat) but this year just a high score on non-verbal NNAT is enough. Does this make sense? No need to require at least a high score on either the reading or quantitative area of Cognat?

And, if the NNAT score isn't high enough then the child must in the 95% for a composite score (verbal, quantitative and non-verbal) which undermines the importance of a high score in one area. Right?

If they're going to give so much weight to the NNAT test with a score of 132+ why bother with the Cognat custom form? Or perhaps, they could just give 2nd graders a 2nd opportunity on the NNAT or just the non-verbal portion of the custom Cognat test? Am I missing something?

Anonymous at 19:07, seems like you have good scores. So please be happy for your kid, and leave..

Quite simple, only use kids who are in the pool.. parents are always going to be biased for their kids.. hence only base it on the pool.. duh!

No class and no teacher should have to put up with disruptive students.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NNAT 99%tile. In-Pool letter dated 1/21 and received 1/24 via USPS. Still waiting on CogAT. In process of completing the parent packet. AAP is not for just 2E kids, as PP suggested. It is for Advanced Learners. DD has kids in AAP class who don't belong there. They are smart but very disruptive. There should be a special class for 2E kids with disruption issues, as it is not fair to DD and her type; brilliant and well-mannered.

+100

I am the PP of the original quote. My DD is not boring; rather she is full of life in appropriate settings. I am really sick and tired of the parents of out of control kids blaming the kids behavior on a disability. Give me a break. When DDs teacher has to parent the kids who don't know got to sit down and shut up when he teacher is speaking, and this 5th grade AAP, it is infuriating. Perhaps parents of disruptive kids should take special parenting classes to learn how to train their kid to act appropriate. Honestly, I am not about keeping DC in a bubble, but am tired of the nonsense. And for the record, i appreciate quirkiness, I am quirky. I am not disruptive.

I agree completely with this poster. She has a right to expect that her child will not have to put up with disruption in an AAP class. My boy is in the program and has been diagnosed with ADHD. However. he works to control himself and to most adults and teachers he has had, appears as an energetic, intelligent boy. We have raised him to be respectful and attentive at school, and not disruptive to others. No teacher has ever raised issues with his behavior in the class room. He participates in sports after school 4 days a week and that goes a long way as an outlet for his energy. When I was a kid, kids that could not behave were sent out of the class room and their parents notified. Believe me, if my parents were called by the school because I was causing problems in class, I would know I would regret it when I got home. It is amazing how otherwise disruptive kids can fall into line when teachers and parents discipline them in front of their peers. Its unfortunate that the the hyper-PC environment of today prevents this in many instances. For most, it only takes one trip to the principals office and a call to the parents to eliminate the problem.

Uh no, pretentious is not an adjective ever used to describe me. Quirky, dedicated, rule follower, respectful, thankful; yes people say I am.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NNAT 99%tile. In-Pool letter dated 1/21 and received 1/24 via USPS. Still waiting on CogAT. In process of completing the parent packet. AAP is not for just 2E kids, as PP suggested. It is for Advanced Learners. DD has kids in AAP class who don't belong there. They are smart but very disruptive. There should be a special class for 2E kids with disruption issues, as it is not fair to DD and her type; brilliant and well-mannered.

+100

I am the PP of the original quote. My DD is not boring; rather she is full of life in appropriate settings. I am really sick and tired of the parents of out of control kids blaming the kids behavior on a disability. Give me a break. When DDs teacher has to parent the kids who don't know got to sit down and shut up when he teacher is speaking, and this 5th grade AAP, it is infuriating. Perhaps parents of disruptive kids should take special parenting classes to learn how to train their kid to act appropriate. Honestly, I am not about keeping DC in a bubble, but am tired of the nonsense. And for the record, i appreciate quirkiness, I am quirky. I am not disruptive.

Actually, it seems "quirky" is a code word for pretentious in your world.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NNAT 99%tile. In-Pool letter dated 1/21 and received 1/24 via USPS. Still waiting on CogAT. In process of completing the parent packet. AAP is not for just 2E kids, as PP suggested. It is for Advanced Learners. DD has kids in AAP class who don't belong there. They are smart but very disruptive. There should be a special class for 2E kids with disruption issues, as it is not fair to DD and her type; brilliant and well-mannered.

+100

I am the PP of the original quote. My DD is not boring; rather she is full of life in appropriate settings. I am really sick and tired of the parents of out of control kids blaming the kids behavior on a disability. Give me a break. When DDs teacher has to parent the kids who don't know got to sit down and shut up when he teacher is speaking, and this 5th grade AAP, it is infuriating. Perhaps parents of disruptive kids should take special parenting classes to learn how to train their kid to act appropriate. Honestly, I am not about keeping DC in a bubble, but am tired of the nonsense. And for the record, i appreciate quirkiness, I am quirky. I am not disruptive.

Anonymous wrote:I have files for my kids - I keep report cards, special awards, sports keepsakes - definitely not everything, just the important things. When we received the letter my oldest was in the pool, I kept the letter and scores - I am glad I did because it is helpful information now. I would highly recommend doing the same.

Has anyone else received scores or pool letters? What order will they come in?


I received in-pool letter in the mail last Friday but scores yet.

Applause

My kids paperwork is sorta piled on top of/around a plastic bin in the basement.

Kudos to you. I am a mess!

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if more of those misbehaving are boys?

Oh yeah.

I wonder if more of those misbehaving are boys?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NNAT 99%tile. In-Pool letter dated 1/21 and received 1/24 via USPS. Still waiting on CogAT. In process of completing the parent packet. AAP is not for just 2E kids, as PP suggested. It is for Advanced Learners. DD has kids in AAP class who don't belong there. They are smart but very disruptive. There should be a special class for 2E kids with disruption issues, as it is not fair to DD and her type; brilliant and well-mannered.

Why don't we keep all the brilliant and well mannered children in a bubble for the rest of their lives so they never have to interact with all "those other" people.

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Anonymous wrote:NNAT 99%tile. In-Pool letter dated 1/21 and received 1/24 via USPS. Still waiting on CogAT. In process of completing the parent packet. AAP is not for just 2E kids, as PP suggested. It is for Advanced Learners. DD has kids in AAP class who don't belong there. They are smart but very disruptive. There should be a special class for 2E kids with disruption issues, as it is not fair to DD and her type; brilliant and well-mannered.

You mean, B-O-R-I-N-G? Yeah, keep them away from those brilliant, energetic kids and their type

No need to put words in previous poster's mouth.

There're kids in my DC's (4th grader AAP) class who are neither "reasonably energetic" nor keep up with others.

Anonymous wrote:NNAT 99%tile. In-Pool letter dated 1/21 and received 1/24 via USPS. Still waiting on CogAT. In process of completing the parent packet. AAP is not for just 2E kids, as PP suggested. It is for Advanced Learners. DD has kids in AAP class who don't belong there. They are smart but very disruptive. There should be a special class for 2E kids with disruption issues, as it is not fair to DD and her type; brilliant and well-mannered.

+100

Anonymous wrote:Brilliant and well-mannered is NOT boring, in my book. Good thing your kid is entertaining for you.

Not only entertaining, but beats the cr*p out of the other kids in academics. Wouldn't have it any other way.