the mason-dixon line is where? the border of MD and DE thereby putting MD in the 'south'. MD is a police state and in VA we prefer low taxes, better schools and public services and personal liberty.

MD has the legacy and investments made 30, 40, 50 years ago. it has much better and many more options for private school than VA because VA used to be farms and hinterlands. that era is long gone. Today, VA (FFX county) is the economic hub of the entire region. yes, if you commute to DC traffic sucks, especially bridge crossings. yes we have an idiot ideologue for a governor. real estate in similar suburbs is generally the same (Chevy Chase is to Arlington as Bethesda is to McLean as Potomac is to Great Falls) - no one can say real estate in close-in NOVA isn't profitable and the transaction costs in VA are much lower than MD.

btw, have any you marylanders actually spent time past gaithersburg? hagerstown isn't exactly the bastion of informed opinion and liberal thought and the western part of the state could be mistaken for alabama.

I agree about the poor signage in VA, but Baltimore had a spell when it was bad, though

Anonymous wrote:it's all frame of reference. I'm from New England, and Central PA and below is the south to me.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:I think VA sucks (and I lived in NoVA for two years) because (1) much of it is ugly and (2) it really sucks trying to cross a bridge in rush hour. Close-in Maryland seems nice and more upscale than close-in VA.

And yet you come here to basically say you're too lazy to move.

Nope- I was in my early 20s at the time and didn't have the money to move. Once I got married and we bought a house, we moved to D.C. Years later, we moved to MD.

MD residents are just jealous of there complete lack of identity, primarily because they are connected to the district. Compared to Arlington and Alexandria, Chevy Chase and Silver Spring are hamlets, and the reality is outside of the Beltway, most just roll them up into Bethesda.

Hell, George Washington preferred to cross the river and live in Old Town instead of living in MD.

Finally, if they could vote state-wide to transfer PGC to VA, it would pass overwhelmingly.

There is definitely snobbery. My grandparents, who lived in DC from the 1920s-1980s, always looked at VA like another country. MD was more acceptable, in their eyes. MD seems to have more of the DC-area legacies, whereas VA has the newbies.

Anonymous wrote:NoVA is a little bit South. We have a neighbor who occasionally flies the Stars and Bars. You probably won't see that in MoCo - maybe in Rising Sun though.

On the other hand, there isn't a Waffle House anywhere in the Nova. When you hit the first Waffle House, you know you are leaving NoVA and entering the Old Dominion. That's why they put the Virginia Welcome Center on southbound 95 iin Fredericksburg, not Alexandria.

So in two sentences you note that one house flies the the confederate flag in VA so we all do, and then remind us of the one we can plainly see flying every single day on 95 N? Way to be consistent.

There's Waffle Houses near Hoodbridge.

Oh yeah, and we also want trans-vaginal shaming wands in DC, but can't have them. I blame it on Mary Cheh.

DC people think VA sucks, too. It's because we are jealous that we can't get a concealed carry permit. (not)

Anonymous wrote:I think VA sucks (and I lived in NoVA for two years) because (1) much of it is ugly and (2) it really sucks trying to cross a bridge in rush hour. Close-in Maryland seems nice and more upscale than close-in VA.

And yet you come here to basically say you're too lazy to move.

Anonymous wrote:Divided highways
Lack of zoning regulations
Strip malls
Hostility to immigrants
Hostility to gays and lesbians
Republican politics
Concealed weapons laws
Vaginal ultrasounds

I love the Buy Buy Baby in that strip mall on Rockville Pike. Nit-wit.

I think VA sucks (and I lived in NoVA for two years) because (1) much of it is ugly and (2) it really sucks trying to cross a bridge in rush hour. Close-in Maryland seems nice and more upscale than close-in VA.

it's all frame of reference. I'm from New England, and Central PA and below is the south to me.

Gotta get my abortions somewhere.

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Anonymous wrote:Different poster here. VA certainly is deep south and scary (not in a good way, or to your benefit) way to some of us. You may be "proud" of it, but others might not be. Every one is different, thankfully.

I'm from Mississippi originally and I live in Prince William County. Virginia is NOT the Deep South. People from the Deep South don't even think North Carolina qualifies as the "real South". There are parts of Virginia (the southwestern corner particularly) that are pretty southern, but NoVa does not resemble the South in any meaningful way. Lee-Jackson Day and all that stuff are relics of a bygone Virginia. This is a different state now than it was even ten years ago -- just look at its role in presidential politics.

Oh, please. Virginia and North Carolina are southern excepting NoVA and the Research Triangle. It's not the same kind of southern as Mississippi - the barbecue is different, but southern all the same.