Anonymous
Post 10/31/2012 22:03     Subject: future at Haycock?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a parent of a "regular" student at a school that could become a new AAP center, the behavior of some here is making me not want to welcome the newcomers with open arms. Do you all realize how you sound?


How do we sound? Like parents who just want to make sure our kids have stability in their education? Parents who want to make sure that FCPS takes care of their kids?


You spend time on here explaining why no other school can possibly be as good as Haycock. Essentially talking crap about all other elementary schools. You think if your child is switched to one that attitude isn't going to bleed through? It's not a matter of us being "stuck" with you - the overwhelming sentiment is that you'll feel "stuck" with us.


We won't feel "stuck" with you.We are you. Whatever Marshall pyramid school you are from, some of our kids came from there. The vast majority of the parents are happy to have a Marshall pyramid school. We just want to make sure the AAP center is good. It's not easy to create a good AAP center. You need a principal who is open to it, good teachers and a good curriculum. That's not easy for any school. Haycock happens to be a really good one. They have that trifecta of principal, curriculum and teachers. That doesn't mean it can't be duplicated somewhere else. We think it can. But it takes time and energy. FCPS is rushing this. We want them to take the time to do it right, wherever it ends up.

We firmly believe that there can be a good Marshall pyramid center if Haycock does it right. I think it could benefit whatever base school ends up with it. A center brings resources and a new viewppint that can benefit the rest of the school. Why do you think Haycock is such a good school? The center is a big part of that.

Quite frankly, as much as people love Haycock, there are many that don't feel particularly welcome there and would prefer "our own" AAP center as long as it's a good one.

The grandfathering argument is a different thing. I think it's not that people's kids can't be happy anywhere but Haycock, it's just that another move is ver disruptive and the kids are happy where they are.

I hope that the base school where this ends up has parents that want the center.


I appreciate this thoughtful response. I wish this sentiment came across more, on these forums and elsewhere. Right now all we are hearing is that you don't want your children to have to come to our somehow inferior school.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2012 21:46     Subject: Re:future at Haycock?
Anonymous wrote:Seems like Lemon Road and Westgate are the two schools most frequently mentioned as candidates for a Marshall pyramid AAP center. Both are also split feeders to Marshall and McLean. How would it work if a student at Lemon Road assigned to Longfellow/McLean tested into AAP? Would he or she stay at Lemon Road or instead attend the center at Haycock?


It is a really good question that I'm not sure FCPS has considered. I have wondered that myself. Would they get rid of the split feeder and force everyone form those schools to Kilmer and Marshall? Who knows? If I were a parent at one of those schools whose kids was slated for Longfellow/McLean, you can bet I'd be asking that of FCPS!!!
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2012 21:44     Subject: Re:future at Haycock?
Anonymous wrote:I really don't understand the curriculum thing. Why would any other center not have the same curriculum? And why would some of the teachers not come over to the new center?


The centers can develop their curriculum independently. They are different, just as each FCPS elementary is different. Likewise, some are better than others. As for teachers, I'm not sure FCPS could just send teachers form Haycock/Louise Archer to a new school. We wish they would, but none of us thinks it works that way. That is something we'd love to explore.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2012 21:22     Subject: Re:future at Haycock?
Seems like Lemon Road and Westgate are the two schools most frequently mentioned as candidates for a Marshall pyramid AAP center. Both are also split feeders to Marshall and McLean. How would it work if a student at Lemon Road assigned to Longfellow/McLean tested into AAP? Would he or she stay at Lemon Road or instead attend the center at Haycock?
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2012 20:46     Subject: Re:future at Haycock?
I really don't understand the curriculum thing. Why would any other center not have the same curriculum? And why would some of the teachers not come over to the new center?
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2012 20:11     Subject: future at Haycock?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a parent of a "regular" student at a school that could become a new AAP center, the behavior of some here is making me not want to welcome the newcomers with open arms. Do you all realize how you sound?


How do we sound? Like parents who just want to make sure our kids have stability in their education? Parents who want to make sure that FCPS takes care of their kids?


You spend time on here explaining why no other school can possibly be as good as Haycock. Essentially talking crap about all other elementary schools. You think if your child is switched to one that attitude isn't going to bleed through? It's not a matter of us being "stuck" with you - the overwhelming sentiment is that you'll feel "stuck" with us.


We won't feel "stuck" with you.We are you. Whatever Marshall pyramid school you are from, some of our kids came from there. The vast majority of the parents are happy to have a Marshall pyramid school. We just want to make sure the AAP center is good. It's not easy to create a good AAP center. You need a principal who is open to it, good teachers and a good curriculum. That's not easy for any school. Haycock happens to be a really good one. They have that trifecta of principal, curriculum and teachers. That doesn't mean it can't be duplicated somewhere else. We think it can. But it takes time and energy. FCPS is rushing this. We want them to take the time to do it right, wherever it ends up.

We firmly believe that there can be a good Marshall pyramid center if Haycock does it right. I think it could benefit whatever base school ends up with it. A center brings resources and a new viewppint that can benefit the rest of the school. Why do you think Haycock is such a good school? The center is a big part of that.

Quite frankly, as much as people love Haycock, there are many that don't feel particularly welcome there and would prefer "our own" AAP center as long as it's a good one.

The grandfathering argument is a different thing. I think it's not that people's kids can't be happy anywhere but Haycock, it's just that another move is ver disruptive and the kids are happy where they are.

I hope that the base school where this ends up has parents that want the center.
Anonymous
Post 10/31/2012 10:16     Subject: future at Haycock?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a parent of a "regular" student at a school that could become a new AAP center, the behavior of some here is making me not want to welcome the newcomers with open arms. Do you all realize how you sound?


How do we sound? Like parents who just want to make sure our kids have stability in their education? Parents who want to make sure that FCPS takes care of their kids?


You spend time on here explaining why no other school can possibly be as good as Haycock. Essentially talking crap about all other elementary schools. You think if your child is switched to one that attitude isn't going to bleed through? It's not a matter of us being "stuck" with you - the overwhelming sentiment is that you'll feel "stuck" with us.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2012 18:58     Subject: future at Haycock?
I agree. Our school has enough AAP qualified students to fill at least one class and everyone still has the option to send their child to a center school AND get transportation.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2012 18:48     Subject: Re:future at Haycock?
I really don't understand why any of the McLean schools need a center. Weren't the centers started for children who only had a couple of children at a high level? These McLean schools have 30 plus kids per grade. There's no reason for them to change schools for an AAP education.
Anonymous
Post 10/27/2012 01:35     Subject: future at Haycock?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lemon Road was in an uproar last year when they had to take in a few Freedom Hill kids. Westgate is overcrowded and waiting for its renovation to start. Shrevewood is full.


The concern at Lemon Road wasn't about capacity, but demographics, and it was something less than an uproar. If it still has capacity, it may get the Cluster 2 kids from Haycock.


Why on earth would Lemon Road be concerned with demographics? About half of Pimmit Hills was within their boundaries already.


Hah you must be old, pimmit hills is no longer just tiny rambler 50s homes it also consists of alot of new money yuppies in mcmansions. The Freedom hill move consisted of mainly apts and townhouses.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2012 23:24     Subject: future at Haycock?
Sounds like you answered your own question
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2012 23:10     Subject: future at Haycock?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lemon Road was in an uproar last year when they had to take in a few Freedom Hill kids. Westgate is overcrowded and waiting for its renovation to start. Shrevewood is full.


The concern at Lemon Road wasn't about capacity, but demographics, and it was something less than an uproar. If it still has capacity, it may get the Cluster 2 kids from Haycock.


Why on earth would Lemon Road be concerned with demographics? About half of Pimmit Hills was within their boundaries already.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2012 23:04     Subject: future at Haycock?
Anonymous wrote:Lemon Road was in an uproar last year when they had to take in a few Freedom Hill kids. Westgate is overcrowded and waiting for its renovation to start. Shrevewood is full.


The concern at Lemon Road wasn't about capacity, but demographics, and it was something less than an uproar. If it still has capacity, it may get the Cluster 2 kids from Haycock.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2012 22:48     Subject: future at Haycock?
Lemon Road was in an uproar last year when they had to take in a few Freedom Hill kids. Westgate is overcrowded and waiting for its renovation to start. Shrevewood is full.
Anonymous
Post 10/26/2012 22:41     Subject: Re:future at Haycock?
I think any of the schools would be fine having these AAP students. I don't know what hostility these parents are talking about other than these parents not wanting to take their children out of Haycock. What I don't understand is why anyone in FCPS thinks they are entitled to have their children go to another base school and have 400 other AAP students there. That was never the intent of the program. These aren't magnet schools.