Anonymous wrote:Sigh, DCUM's pocket delusion that DCPS attracts millions of Maryland students, because it is so great, just because one of You'll see a kid get out of a his Grandmother's (maryland-plated) car on monday after spending the weekend at her house.

I call rat-troll on this too. I haven't seen anyone seriously question the number of parents at different certain schools that report the plethora of out of state licenses. I think this is just to stir everyone up.

Anonymous wrote:Sigh, DCUM's pocket delusion that DCPS attracts millions of Maryland students, because it is so great, just because one of You'll see a kid get out of a his Grandmother's (maryland-plated) car on monday after spending the weekend at her house.

based on the sightseeings, sounds like in some schools a good percentage of the kids spends many days of the week at grandma's house in MD and is driven to school by said grandma in the morning

Sigh, DCUM's pocket delusion that DCPS attracts millions of Maryland students, because it is so great, just because one of You'll see a kid get out of a his Grandmother's (maryland-plated) car on monday after spending the weekend at her house.

Anonymous wrote:I'm new to DC schools and walk my child to school, so I'm not noticing the license plates, but most likely we will be driving next year and I guarantee you that I, for one, will have no problem alerting the school if it seems someone is always driving up with non-DC plates. I don't have DC plates and I wouldn't have a problem at all if someone reported me (although mine are from Maine so it's ok with me if someone thinks I'm commuting from Maine - I'd just say "Yes, I'm THAT motivated!" .

Either you have a good explanation for your non-DC plates and you will happily continue to bring your child to that school, or you were not honest on your application about where you live and you either did know or should have known that that might come out some day.

So you can count one (and I have a hunch a LOT more) DCUM'er who is *not* just talking about it here but not doing anything about it. If I see it, I'll do something about it.

+1!

I'm new to DC schools and walk my child to school, so I'm not noticing the license plates, but most likely we will be driving next year and I guarantee you that I, for one, will have no problem alerting the school if it seems someone is always driving up with non-DC plates. I don't have DC plates and I wouldn't have a problem at all if someone reported me (although mine are from Maine so it's ok with me if someone thinks I'm commuting from Maine - I'd just say "Yes, I'm THAT motivated!" .

Either you have a good explanation for your non-DC plates and you will happily continue to bring your child to that school, or you were not honest on your application about where you live and you either did know or should have known that that might come out some day.

So you can count one (and I have a hunch a LOT more) DCUM'er who is *not* just talking about it here but not doing anything about it. If I see it, I'll do something about it.

Anonymous wrote:All of this whining about cheaters is ridiculous. Instead of reporting the so-called cheaters, people whimp out and post on DCUM- home to whiners-not-doers. Also, all of the suggested investigating would be awful for immigrant families who don't have tax returns and all of the "documents" you all want to force people to show to prove their residency status, but they very well do reside where in the city.

If they live in the city, then if someone shows up at their house and they live there, then what's the problem? That's proof. I'm seriously starting to think that all the people saying "don't bother reporting" have kids enrolled in dcps illegally.

All of this whining about cheaters is ridiculous. Instead of reporting the so-called cheaters, people whimp out and post on DCUM- home to whiners-not-doers. Also, all of the suggested investigating would be awful for immigrant families who don't have tax returns and all of the "documents" you all want to force people to show to prove their residency status, but they very well do reside where in the city.

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Anonymous wrote:

maybe, but based on previous threads, sounds like there are still some address cheaters at janney, just not the pg county type, but the multiple house owning lawyer type using their rental property addresses.

If they're paying property tax on the rental, how is that not legitimate?

Because in DC you're probably covering your taxes and other costs with the rent you're bringing in. You are usually benefitting financially from that rent and the taxes you're paying wherever you actually live are NOT going to the school system you're sneaking your kid into.

That is very plainly not legitimate.

And for those who are not making their taxes back on their rentals, that is part of doing business - you are not entitled to a bonus of a school slot that someone's kid who *actually* lives in DC should have taken just because you are doing business in DC. Should all business owners in DC who pay DC taxes get to send their kids to DC schools regardless of where they live, just because they do business in DC? Residency is about where you LIVE, not where you do business, even if property taxes are part of the business you do.

Anonymous wrote:I think it's laziness and unwillingness to disturb the kids. I think some of the principals see their mission as one to educate and care for kids with a blind eye to which kids. It's hard to think about kicking out a sweet little three-year-old who otherwise might be in some wretched daycare center.

Not that this is right, of course.

If the parent was resourceful enough to fake residency to get their kid into a good school, why would the assumption be that if not for that slot in that school, the kid would be in a "wretched daycare center"? Resourceful parents are resourceful parents - if the cheating on residency doesn't work out, they'll figure out the best school in their area that they can get into and make it work.

And no, I'm not assuming they can PAY for their local school, although a lot of the cheaters sound like they can afford to have multiple properties or even rent JUST to establish fake residency, so yeah, THEY can certainly afford something much better than "wretched daycare" wherever they are.

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maybe, but based on previous threads, sounds like there are still some address cheaters at janney, just not the pg county type, but the multiple house owning lawyer type using their rental property addresses.

If they're paying property tax on the rental, how is that not legitimate?

Unfortunately, making someone an example is worth the tuition gained, if a lawsuit arises. DCPS choses their fights very frugally and it is NOT a priority.

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Anonymous wrote:Remember all the students you might lose doesn't mean you will gain them back with a meighborhood enrollee. There's a lengthy process that's in the favor of the accused. The appeal process is a monster; the continuancy allowance can go on for years. By the time ceryain rulings were handed down the child has graduated from DCPS.

We are a city of lawyers and this hasn't become a cash cow, wonder why? It ain't worth it.

it might be a lenghty process but if you make the cheaters pay tuition for the months-years they have unlawfully be in DCPS that would discourage them from dragging things on, and maybe even from cheating. now if they are caught they are simply asked to leave the school. DCPS just need to catch a few cheaters and charge them all the back tuition (and get the money) and make them an example.

+1!!!

It doesn't have to go as far as following kids around. Just have someone go to the address of record to check for residency. If someone reports that they think parents enrolled their kids in dcps but live in MD then all DCPS has to do is follow up.

Coming to school by private car with out of town plates and coming to school via public transportation are two entirely different situations. This is beyond being investigative, what's next tracing steps with a blood hound???

Last year I proposed that the inspector start at the Landover Metro Station in the morning. (Ward 9) and follow the children in DCPS uniforms to their schools.

People went ballistic at the idea that someone would follow a child.

If you are doing nothing wrong, why do you care?