Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Marilyn Monroe wore a.size.16 and she was ravishingly beautiful. People come on all sizes and this model has curves in all tbe right places, looks healthy, and if I were a man, I would prefer women who look the wau women should look and don't look like a stick

No, Marilyn was not a 16, definitely not by today's standards of massive vanity sizing.
Height: 5' 5.5"
Weight: 118-140
Bust: 35-37
Waist: 22-23
Hips: 35-36
Bra: 36D

And yes, that model is plus sized.

I read an article the other day by a man who helped prepare her estate for auction, and he said that her clothes were tiny. He was shocked, because he had heard the "size 16" myth, as well.

plus sized for a model, yes. for a non-model, no.

Anonymous wrote:Marilyn Monroe wore a.size.16 and she was ravishingly beautiful. People come on all sizes and this model has curves in all tbe right places, looks healthy, and if I were a man, I would prefer women who look the wau women should look and don't look like a stick

Could you not support women who look like her without insulting women who look like me? I look like a woman. I look like this woman is "supposed to" look. It's fine to say that some men prefer more curves and some prefer more slim or athletic but stop telling me I don't look like a woman.

Anonymous wrote:Marilyn Monroe wore a.size.16 and she was ravishingly beautiful. People come on all sizes and this model has curves in all tbe right places, looks healthy, and if I were a man, I would prefer women who look the wau women should look and don't look like a stick

A 16 then was something like today's 8. Can't remember exactly, but it is not today's 16.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:depends what you mean. bigger than the average model? yes. actually too big for clothing in 'regular' stores? no way.

OP here. What I meant was, is she plus-sized compared to people in general, not as a model. I know that, as far as models go, she would be considered plus-sized. I was asking if you think she is plus-sized as far as "real life" (i.e., not the modeling world). In other words, if you saw this woman on the street, would you think that she needs to shop at stores for plus-sized women or in the plus-size sections of stores.

If your question is where does she have to shop, I wouldn't assume she shops at Lane Bryant but I would assume she finds Anthropologie and Banana Republic difficult. I wouldn't think anything if I passed her on the street; this is just my answer if someone asks the question.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:depends what you mean. bigger than the average model? yes. actually too big for clothing in 'regular' stores? no way.

OP here. What I meant was, is she plus-sized compared to people in general, not as a model. I know that, as far as models go, she would be considered plus-sized. I was asking if you think she is plus-sized as far as "real life" (i.e., not the modeling world). In other words, if you saw this woman on the street, would you think that she needs to shop at stores for plus-sized women or in the plus-size sections of stores.

I don't get your question. There's a huge variety of people on the street. I don't think about where they shop.

Anonymous wrote:depends what you mean. bigger than the average model? yes. actually too big for clothing in 'regular' stores? no way.

OP here. What I meant was, is she plus-sized compared to people in general, not as a model. I know that, as far as models go, she would be considered plus-sized. I was asking if you think she is plus-sized as far as "real life" (i.e., not the modeling world). In other words, if you saw this woman on the street, would you think that she needs to shop at stores for plus-sized women or in the plus-size sections of stores.

Yes. I do. I think she is very pretty. She is larger than average...though not so sure about larger than the average American anymore.

Marilyn was a size 6-8 in todays sizes..some say even a 4.

I am now a size 2-4--yet I have weighed exactly the same (barring the 50 lbs I gained during each pregnancy) since I was 16-I am 42 now. I wore a size 8 back in the 80s. Don't full yourself--american sizes have been getting larger and larger. I also now wear an extra small top at LOFT and Banana Republic. I was a solid medium in my teens. I am flattered--but I am the exact same size so I take the size labels with a grain of salt.

Anonymous wrote:I think all the people insisting that Marilyn was a size 14 and was still beautiful are the same ones who are bragging that they still wear the same size they wore in college.

Yep, funny. I wear a smaller size than I did in college (20 yrs ago), even though my measurements are roughly the same. Funny, hunh? I still fit into my prom gown from high school, but I can no longer wear a size 9/10 without taking it in--I now wear a 6 in dresses.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Marilyn Monroe wore a.size.16 and she was ravishingly beautiful. People come on all sizes and this model has curves in all tbe right places, looks healthy, and if I were a man, I would prefer women who look the wau women should look and don't look like a stick

No, Marilyn was not a 16, definitely not by today's standards of massive vanity sizing.
Height: 5' 5.5"
Weight: 118-140
Bust: 35-37
Waist: 22-23
Hips: 35-36
Bra: 36D

And yes, that model is plus sized.

NP - thanks for the measurements. I collect vintage gowns and it really gets on my nerves when people talk about Marilyn being a size 14/16. In modern sizes, she would be a size 6/8 in dresses and tops, and a size 0 in pants and skirts.

Her hip and bust measurements are about the same as mine, and I wear size 2-4 in most American brands, size 8 at H&M. Even in her own day, she was never a size 16, more like a 10-12.

I think all the people insisting that Marilyn was a size 14 and was still beautiful are the same ones who are bragging that they still wear the same size they wore in college.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Marilyn Monroe wore a.size.16 and she was ravishingly beautiful. People come on all sizes and this model has curves in all tbe right places, looks healthy, and if I were a man, I would prefer women who look the wau women should look and don't look like a stick

No, Marilyn was not a 16, definitely not by today's standards of massive vanity sizing.
Height: 5' 5.5"
Weight: 118-140
Bust: 35-37
Waist: 22-23
Hips: 35-36
Bra: 36D

And yes, that model is plus sized.

NP - thanks for the measurements. I collect vintage gowns and it really gets on my nerves when people talk about Marilyn being a size 14/16. In modern sizes, she would be a size 6/8 in dresses and tops, and a size 0 in pants and skirts.

Yes, the model is plus size.

I agree, you can't judge in terms of clothing size. A size 4 now would have have a size 8/10 15-20 years ago.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Marilyn Monroe wore a.size.16 and she was ravishingly beautiful. People come on all sizes and this model has curves in all tbe right places, looks healthy, and if I were a man, I would prefer women who look the wau women should look and don't look like a stick

No, Marilyn was not a 16, definitely not by today's standards of massive vanity sizing.
Height: 5' 5.5"
Weight: 118-140
Bust: 35-37
Waist: 22-23
Hips: 35-36
Bra: 36D

And yes, that model is plus sized.

NP - thanks for the measurements. I collect vintage gowns and it really gets on my nerves when people talk about Marilyn being a size 14/16. In modern sizes, she would be a size 6/8 in dresses and tops, and a size 0 in pants and skirts.

Yes, the model is plus size.

Plus sized for a model. Not trim for a regular woman.

Look, I've been a size 12 (and a size 10, etc.). The fact that the average woman is now a 12 or slightly over didn't change the fact that at a size 12, and tall, I was overweight.

She looks great. I even like the hair.

http://curveappeal.tumblr.com/post/3745708022/naomi-shimada-for-asos-curve-34-inch-bust-30

This shows her measurements (34-30-40) and size (10)