Anonymous
Post 07/30/2012 10:15     Subject: Standing your ground (chick fil a, etc) spin-off
Anonymous wrote:So, i actually am a bit repulsed by chick fil a's stance and I won't be eating there anymore, but I don't make a big deal about it in public or even on here. I certainly wouldn't tell a friend not to eat there and I'm not above stealing a napkin from them if we're walking by in the mall. But support them by purchasing a product? No. That I will not do.

I also oppose Komen for what they did with planned parenthood and i no longer do the walk or raise any funds for them.

But it seems like people on teh chick fil a thread seem to think no one does these things - makes private consumer or charity choices based on a companies (owner's) beliefs, ethics or actions.

So my question is: do you, privately, make decisions on what to buy, eat, or where based on a companies' actions or statements?


Yes, because in the past few decades, as big business has taken over government, we no longer have any real voice there. Since we live in what amounts to a corporocracy, I vote with my money.
Anonymous
Post 07/30/2012 10:11     Subject: Standing your ground (chick fil a, etc) spin-off
I'll be patronizing CFA more often.
Anonymous
Post 07/30/2012 10:08     Subject: Standing your ground (chick fil a, etc) spin-off
Anonymous wrote:Nope. As far as chick-fil-a, while I disagree with the guy, I think that he (just like everyone else) is entitled to his opinion. As long as they don't discriminate against gays or others, they certainly have the right to feel the way they do about various issues.


I would bet my entire life savings on the fact that he does in fact discriminate against gay people. There is no question in my mind.
Would I boycott it? Sure, but don't have to because I would never eat that crap to begin with.
Anonymous
Post 07/30/2012 09:48     Subject: Standing your ground (chick fil a, etc) spin-off
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So, i actually am a bit repulsed by chick fil a's stance and I won't be eating there anymore, but I don't make a big deal about it in public or even on here. I certainly wouldn't tell a friend not to eat there and I'm not above stealing a napkin from them if we're walking by in the mall. But support them by purchasing a product? No. That I will not do.

I also oppose Komen for what they did with planned parenthood and i no longer do the walk or raise any funds for them.

But it seems like people on teh chick fil a thread seem to think no one does these things - makes private consumer or charity choices based on a companies (owner's) beliefs, ethics or actions.

So my question is: do you, privately, make decisions on what to buy, eat, or where based on a companies' actions or statements?


I guess you don't realize that is nothing more than an attempt to rally the democratic base before the election. Unemployment is over 8 percent, gas is $3.50 a gallon, home values are at a ten year low, and the US is carrying a $14 trillion debit and is on the verge of financial collapse and you fools are worried about a fucking fast food restaurant. Simply amazing.


Civil liberties is absolutely at the top of my list when I vote. Abortion rights, followed closely by gay rights are my #1 voting issue. The dems could put SATAN up for President and I would still vote for him. Because I know what elected Republican officials will mean for my personal liberty. No one else should be telling people who to fuck, who not to fuck, and what to do with your uterus. Everytime I start to be tempted by the dark side (republicans) one of you opens your fat mouth and wants to wand people or some other absurd violation of liberty. The economy will struggle on under one idiot or another. I am not going to sell my bodily freedom to one party or another in the hopes that that party might magically fix the economy. I'd rather be poor and free than a rich slave.


You lost me with Satan and won me back hook, line, and sinker with "I'd rather be poor and free than a rich slave".
Anonymous
Post 07/30/2012 09:16     Subject: Standing your ground (chick fil a, etc) spin-off
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So, i actually am a bit repulsed by chick fil a's stance and I won't be eating there anymore, but I don't make a big deal about it in public or even on here. I certainly wouldn't tell a friend not to eat there and I'm not above stealing a napkin from them if we're walking by in the mall. But support them by purchasing a product? No. That I will not do.

I also oppose Komen for what they did with planned parenthood and i no longer do the walk or raise any funds for them.

But it seems like people on teh chick fil a thread seem to think no one does these things - makes private consumer or charity choices based on a companies (owner's) beliefs, ethics or actions.

So my question is: do you, privately, make decisions on what to buy, eat, or where based on a companies' actions or statements?


I guess you don't realize that is nothing more than an attempt to rally the democratic base before the election. Unemployment is over 8 percent, gas is $3.50 a gallon, home values are at a ten year low, and the US is carrying a $14 trillion debit and is on the verge of financial collapse and you fools are worried about a fucking fast food restaurant. Simply amazing.


Civil liberties is absolutely at the top of my list when I vote. Abortion rights, followed closely by gay rights are my #1 voting issue. The dems could put SATAN up for President and I would still vote for him. Because I know what elected Republican officials will mean for my personal liberty. No one else should be telling people who to fuck, who not to fuck, and what to do with your uterus. Everytime I start to be tempted by the dark side (republicans) one of you opens your fat mouth and wants to wand people or some other absurd violation of liberty. The economy will struggle on under one idiot or another. I am not going to sell my bodily freedom to one party or another in the hopes that that party might magically fix the economy. I'd rather be poor and free than a rich slave.

Anonymous
Post 07/30/2012 07:44     Subject: Re:Standing your ground (chick fil a, etc) spin-off
Anonymous wrote:If Mark Zuckerberg were anti-gay or anti-women (which, BTW, I heard that before the IPO, the office culture was quite sexist), would that mean the end for FB?


Work in high tech (software and internet) companies, the culture is sexist but it is because of the high number of non-Americans. I know this is not a politically correct statement. But many of the countries that software developers come from are in the Stone Age when it comes to women's rights. They bring their countries' sexism with them.
Anonymous
Post 07/30/2012 07:15     Subject: Standing your ground (chick fil a, etc) spin-off
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We definitely prefer to do business with organizations and firms that reflect our social and economic beliefs. It's not a must though. We occasionally shop at Whole Foods and I'm pretty sure the owner of that chain does not agree with us on a lot of political issues.

In this particular case tho, we would never have eaten at CLA so they won't miss us. Factory farmed meat/mass production crap food is, IMHO, a far more deadly and immediate threat for the US than anything these guys could say about gay marriage. The anti-gay thing is ridiculous, 3rd century thinking, but the tide on that has turned and the days of the bigots will pass. In the meantime, food from places like CLA is literally killing us and is doing terrible damage to the environment. If there should be any outrage, I think it should be at that.


He's not the "owner" of WholeFoods. He's the founder and former Chairman of the Board.


Thank you for the correction. How does it change my point?
Anonymous
Post 07/29/2012 20:19     Subject: Standing your ground (chick fil a, etc) spin-off
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hells yeah! I really like C-F-A's sandwiches but after their public stance on gay marriage, they wont be getting a dime from me.


They are crying all the way to the bank.


For me, it's not about hurting Chick-fil-a, exactly. I know they couldn't care less where I eat. But I have friends and family who are gay -- the same people who this dickwad is spending millions of dollars to make sure they can't get married. I'm not going to tell them "Hey, I support your human rights and all, but these waffle fries are fucking delicious!"
Anonymous
Post 07/29/2012 19:52     Subject: Standing your ground (chick fil a, etc) spin-off
Anonymous wrote:Hells yeah! I really like C-F-A's sandwiches but after their public stance on gay marriage, they wont be getting a dime from me.


They are crying all the way to the bank.
Anonymous
Post 07/29/2012 19:08     Subject: Standing your ground (chick fil a, etc) spin-off
I don't eat at CFA, so this wouldn't affect me either way, but if I did, I would still eat there. CFA owners have a right to feel the way they do, just like anyone else out there. They are not breaking the law in any way.
Anonymous
Post 07/29/2012 19:01     Subject: Standing your ground (chick fil a, etc) spin-off
I am boycotting CFA. I don't shop at Walmart. I don't own a single diamond. Oil is unavoidable, sadly. For all of the blood spilled over our relationships with oil producers and those countries' treatment of women and gays and lesbians, I'd love to never buy another gallon of gas for the rest of my life. But, I can't get my child to school or to myself to work without a car.

I still hold grudges against Coors and Cracker Barrel for their discrimination of gays years ago.
Anonymous
Post 07/29/2012 16:50     Subject: Standing your ground (chick fil a, etc) spin-off
In the case of a franchise, I don't know that I would boycott it. CFAs are locally owned and staffed with people from all walks and backgrounds, even gays, it isn't fair to punish them, too.

I try to purchase things made, grown, or at least assembled in the U.S., from companies with the fewest possible transgressions.

No one person or corporation is above criticism, and the line has to be drawn somewhere.
Anonymous
Post 07/29/2012 16:04     Subject: Re:Standing your ground (chick fil a, etc) spin-off
Anonymous wrote:

But even if we gays haven't suffered enough to earn the right to marry in your eyes, there is still no American reason to deny it. There is only your hate and fear and bigotry.



Fear? Fear of what? I love when the term "homophobia" is thrown around. Who's afraid of the big bad gays? Come on now. There is no fear.

And it isn't "fear that our traditional views are being challenged." Your using "marriage" means nothing to me. Gays can't be married. I'm for full civil unions for them, but marriage is one man and one woman. I'm not losing sleep -- or, "afraid" -- that gays think they're married. It's a moot point to me.

Chik-fil-A is a private company, a small biz gone big. They have every right to their opinion. And they have delicious food. I love eating there on occasion and will continue to do so.


Gay people can be married. As other Americans can be. Glad you aren't losing sleep over it. It indicates that you understand how stupid it is to think that marriage is only about one man and one woman when, wait for it....lots of same gender couples marry every day. You, PP, apparently note the incredibly inconsistent stance you pretend to stand behind above.

Who cares what CFA officials think? As we both know, the most important thing is marriage equality, a battle that has been won. Go ahead and give your money to an outspoken bigot. You apparently are not very educated. That's ok. No one needs your outdated and slightly funny views of gay people.

And you think their food is delicious? Really? That alone should get you voted off the island.
Anonymous
Post 07/29/2012 15:43     Subject: Standing your ground (chick fil a, etc) spin-off
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Absolutely. Though I won't buy German cars, either.

Oh and I love amazon anyway, so that's just a bonus!



Why won't you buy German cars?


Hitler?
Anonymous
Post 07/29/2012 15:25     Subject: Standing your ground (chick fil a, etc) spin-off
Anonymous wrote:Absolutely. Though I won't buy German cars, either.

Oh and I love amazon anyway, so that's just a bonus!



Why won't you buy German cars?