Anonymous
Post 07/24/2012 14:18     Subject: If you're poor and live in the projects should your kids have iPads?
Anonymous wrote:I think the intention is to keep the poor poor.


No

Providing iPads is a band aid approach, as it doesn't solve the REAL problem of poverty and ignorance.

Do you really think an iPad will transform a child's world when he's not eating on a regular basis? Sure, he could look up fancy restaurants and drool over the pictures.

ridiculous
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2012 12:13     Subject: If you're poor and live in the projects should your kids have iPads?
I think the intention is to keep the poor poor.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2012 11:58     Subject: If you're poor and live in the projects should your kids have iPads?
Anonymous wrote:http://www.nola.com/opinions/index.ssf/2012/07/photo_of_boy_in_the_projects_w.html

I say no. Americans have no idea what real poverty is and this is just a case of laziness. Generational belief that the government owes them assistance and so they waste OUR taxpayer dollars on things like iPads and new shoes.


No, of course, they shouldn't. We whould continue to keep poor children ignorant, illiterate, and make sure the only job they can get is selling dope to your kids. All people deserve a chance, particularly the poor, just so they can raise themselves to a better life. You are an idiot.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2012 11:30     Subject: If you're poor and live in the projects should your kids have iPads?
Anonymous wrote:The information gap between rich and poor is rapidly growing. The best jobs at this time involve technology. Short of withholding food, there is not much worse to hobble a child's future prospects than to deny them technology.


There's no sense in giving them technology if they can't use it for educational purposes, too!

Why can't anyone see that?

Even IF we gave out free iPads, for example, those kids in the rich burbs would be using them to get ahead b/c they know HOW to use them as an educational resource. Kids in poor neighborhoods don't have that advantage.

Now, if you want to pay more taxes so that we can level the field AND hire more tech teachers while constantly updating technology, then I'm on your side. But until that day comes when ALL kids are receiving excellent lessons in information literacy, the divide will still remain the same.

dense
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And to those discussing free computers for children in developing countries, I hope you realize that education is indeed respected there. I have several friends from African nations who, although they grew up poor, have a solid educational foundation. One is even a doctor here in the States. So you're comparing apples to oranges, as education is NOT valued in the States at all.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2012 07:17     Subject: If you're poor and live in the projects should your kids have iPads?
The information gap between rich and poor is rapidly growing. The best jobs at this time involve technology. Short of withholding food, there is not much worse to hobble a child's future prospects than to deny them technology.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2012 04:18     Subject: If you're poor and live in the projects should your kids have iPads?
MYOB. Go judge the state of your fancy neighbour's garden or point fingers at the people who parked too close to your driveway if you need to be disapproving.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2012 00:17     Subject: If you're poor and live in the projects should your kids have iPads?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Only in America would we criticize giving computers to poor kids. Meanwhile our best scientists are building them to give out to poor kids in Africa.


These are bare essential $100, solar power, waterproof laptops. Why not give them this instead of an ipad?


No one "gave" them an iPad.
And the laptops you refer to cost $200.
And a 1st Gen ipad goes for 250.
And you can run thousands of free educational apps on an ipad.


You are correct. It was originally planned to be $100. But I don't think they pay monthly access fees. Here's your chance to make a difference:

The XO-1, previously known as the "$100 Laptop" or "Children's Machine", is an inexpensive laptop computer designed to be distributed to children in developing countries around the world,[22] to provide them with access to knowledge, and opportunities to "explore, experiment and express themselves" (constructionist learning).[23] The laptop is manufactured by the Taiwanese computer company Quanta Computer.

The rugged, low-power computers use flash memory instead of a hard drive, run a Fedora-based operating system and use the Sugar user interface.[24] Mobile ad-hoc networking based on the 802.11s wireless mesh network protocol allows students to collaborate on activities and to share Internet access from one connection. The wireless networking has much greater range than typical consumer laptops. The XO-1 has also been designed to be lower cost and much longer-lived than typical laptops....

The laptops include an anti-theft system which can, optionally, require each laptop to periodically make contact with a server to renew its cryptographic lease token....

An XO-3 concept resembles a tablet computer and is planned to have the inner workings of the XO 1.75.[31] Price goal is below $100 and date is 2012...

As of April 2011, the price remains above $209

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Laptop_per_Child

Give One Get One (G1G1) is an initiative of the One Laptop per Child to increase the distribution of its XO-1 laptop to developing nations by allowing a person to obtain an XO-1 by buying two devices: one for the purchaser and the other being sent to a developing nation.[1] The first program ran from November 2007 to 31 December 2007 and was available to U.S. and Canadian residents only. November 2008 saw the program relaunched[2] until 31 December 2008, extended to residents of EU member states, Switzerland and Russia, and the parliamentary republic of Turkey.[3] No Give One Get One action took place in 2009, 2010, or 2011. Although there has been a Win One Give One through Betty Crocker snacks.

In some jurisdictions part, or all, of the cost of the two laptops may be tax-deductible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Give_One_Get_One
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2012 00:01     Subject: If you're poor and live in the projects should your kids have iPads?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Only in America would we criticize giving computers to poor kids. Meanwhile our best scientists are building them to give out to poor kids in Africa.


These are bare essential $100, solar power, waterproof laptops. Why not give them this instead of an ipad?


No one "gave" them an iPad.
And the laptops you refer to cost $200.
And a 1st Gen ipad goes for 250.
And you can run thousands of free educational apps on an ipad.


they get books you dope
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2012 23:33     Subject: If you're poor and live in the projects should your kids have iPads?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Only in America would we criticize giving computers to poor kids. Meanwhile our best scientists are building them to give out to poor kids in Africa.


These are bare essential $100, solar power, waterproof laptops. Why not give them this instead of an ipad?


No one "gave" them an iPad.
And the laptops you refer to cost $200.
And a 1st Gen ipad goes for 250.
And you can run thousands of free educational apps on an ipad.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2012 20:58     Subject: If you're poor and live in the projects should your kids have iPads?
Anonymous wrote:Only in America would we criticize giving computers to poor kids. Meanwhile our best scientists are building them to give out to poor kids in Africa.


These are bare essential $100, solar power, waterproof laptops. Why not give them this instead of an ipad?
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2012 20:56     Subject: If you're poor and live in the projects should your kids have iPads?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think absolutely they should. My privileged daughter learns so much from our iPad, and those children don't have the same other community resources. This is one easy way for kids to get access to good educational programming.[/quote]

No, it's not.

Do you expect kids to hop on the internet and to suddenly develop excellent research skills? They're looking at crap. What's educational about shoe shopping or watching the latest video on Youtube?

Many underprivileged kids don't have good role models to show them how to research. So the iPad, in that case, is just another toy.

educational programming! LOL! What planet are you from?


Oh great, they are too poor to know how to use it. You are just a treasure. But I bet you won't deny your kids access to the Internet, because they deserve that "crap", right?


I can teach my kids how to use the internet. I use the same methods with my students, but unless these kids are receiving solid instruction in HOW to critically analyze sites (.org, edu, .gov - you get the picture, I hope), they are JUST TOYS! fancy toys

Hop into your ship and fly off to Pluto. You're not welcome here.


Somehow I don't see them using ipads for educational purposes. Just as most people don't just make emergency calls on their cell phones.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2012 20:33     Subject: If you're poor and live in the projects should your kids have iPads?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think absolutely they should. My privileged daughter learns so much from our iPad, and those children don't have the same other community resources. This is one easy way for kids to get access to good educational programming.[/quote]

No, it's not.

Do you expect kids to hop on the internet and to suddenly develop excellent research skills? They're looking at crap. What's educational about shoe shopping or watching the latest video on Youtube?

Many underprivileged kids don't have good role models to show them how to research. So the iPad, in that case, is just another toy.

educational programming! LOL! What planet are you from?


Oh great, they are too poor to know how to use it. You are just a treasure. But I bet you won't deny your kids access to the Internet, because they deserve that "crap", right?


I can teach my kids how to use the internet. I use the same methods with my students, but unless these kids are receiving solid instruction in HOW to critically analyze sites (.org, edu, .gov - you get the picture, I hope), they are JUST TOYS! fancy toys

Hop into your ship and fly off to Pluto. You're not welcome here.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2012 19:36     Subject: Re:If you're poor and live in the projects should your kids have iPads?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:But how do you feel about people on welfare assistance shopping at high priced gourmet or specialty food stores when many not on assistance cannot afford it? And this isn't always people from the projects. They could be unemployed, coddled college grads who chose easy majors flooded with supply and little to no demand.


I feel they are rarer then hens teeth, and they are great anecdotes to rile up people who want to be riled up.


Yup. And further, I DON'T CARE. I DON'T CARE. I DON'T CARE. If they are spending the money on ipads or organic ding dongs, I DON't CARE. Doesn't affect me, I don't have to live their lives, and honestly, it is not like not buying an ipad or a pair of shoes or gourmet coffee is going to magically lift people out of poverty.So, I DON'T CARE.


+1
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2012 19:22     Subject: If you're poor and live in the projects should your kids have iPads?
Anonymous wrote:Stfu most if not all of the projects is generational welfare due to a lack of time limits


I thought that was an interesting statistic so I decided to google it. Shocker, it's not true. Shame on your for passing off your prejudices as fact.

It turns out that the median duration of benefits, excluding the elderly and disabled, is 48 months.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2012 19:02     Subject: If you're poor and live in the projects should your kids have iPads?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think absolutely they should. My privileged daughter learns so much from our iPad, and those children don't have the same other community resources. This is one easy way for kids to get access to good educational programming.[/quote]

No, it's not.

Do you expect kids to hop on the internet and to suddenly develop excellent research skills? They're looking at crap. What's educational about shoe shopping or watching the latest video on Youtube?

Many underprivileged kids don't have good role models to show them how to research. So the iPad, in that case, is just another toy.

educational programming! LOL! What planet are you from?


Oh great, they are too poor to know how to use it. You are just a treasure. But I bet you won't deny your kids access to the Internet, because they deserve that "crap", right?