Anonymous
06/18/2012 22:34
Subject: S/o why are we so fat?
Oh, good. Another fat hating post.i I was just thinking it was time for some self righteous thin person to tell the MAJORITY of us what we're doing wrong, and how it all boils down to my desire for six flat screen TVs.
Please tell me your job requires no thinking, OP.
Please tell me your job requires no thinking, OP.
Anonymous
06/18/2012 22:01
Subject: Re:S/o why are we so fat?
I think fattening food is just easier and cheaper to find. And tons of people make big money off of making something sound healthy when it really isn't. It drives me nuts to realize that something that could be very healthy, like stir-fry, is made with something super fattenting to make it taste better.
And then throw in the fact that every what 5 to 10 years, out comes some new study that says everything we have been eating is completely wrong. Let see first it was fat was evil, but you could eat all the carbs you wanted. Then it was protein was the holy grail and you should avoid fruits and veggies. Now its gluten and grains and dairy are evil (if I am following right). Its not often the whole balanced approach gets a lot of play.
As to your theory that its because moms work. I definetly disagree. Cooking doesn't mean good health unless you cook healthy things. My mom made us beef and potatoes and veggies with heavy sauce every night growing up. How is that healthy? Its about understanding how to eat healthy. You can still cook healthy meals and work.
And then throw in the fact that every what 5 to 10 years, out comes some new study that says everything we have been eating is completely wrong. Let see first it was fat was evil, but you could eat all the carbs you wanted. Then it was protein was the holy grail and you should avoid fruits and veggies. Now its gluten and grains and dairy are evil (if I am following right). Its not often the whole balanced approach gets a lot of play.
As to your theory that its because moms work. I definetly disagree. Cooking doesn't mean good health unless you cook healthy things. My mom made us beef and potatoes and veggies with heavy sauce every night growing up. How is that healthy? Its about understanding how to eat healthy. You can still cook healthy meals and work.
Anonymous
06/18/2012 21:57
Subject: S/o why are we so fat?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My DH grew up in SA and had lunch at school, which was steak and veggies. When he came to the US in HS and saw macaroni and cheese, he said he wanted to vomit. (Now he likes it, btw.) Not all schools abroad do not provide lunch or lunchtime for kids. Where were you, PP?!
I was in Eastern Europe.
Well, no wonder. If that was during the Cold War there was no food to serve. I remember when I visited East Berlin. In the Lebensmittelgeschaeft there was like one can of peas on the shelf.
Anonymous
06/18/2012 21:56
Subject: S/o why are we so fat?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't get it why American schools serve any food to begin with. It really amazes me. I am an immigrant and went to school in Europe. There was no kitchen in my school. Some students ate snacks during recess (that they brought from home or purchased in neighboring stores) but most children didn't eat anything. You ate before you go to school and then when you get home. It's not like you anybody starved though there were very few (like 1 per 30) overweight children.
But don't you guys go to school that is within walking distance from home and you go home for lunch and a nap?
Yup, pretty much. I am a US citizen now, so it's 'them'
Anonymous
06/18/2012 21:50
Subject: S/o why are we so fat?
Anonymous wrote:My DH grew up in SA and had lunch at school, which was steak and veggies. When he came to the US in HS and saw macaroni and cheese, he said he wanted to vomit. (Now he likes it, btw.) Not all schools abroad do not provide lunch or lunchtime for kids. Where were you, PP?!
I was in Eastern Europe.
Anonymous
06/18/2012 21:49
Subject: S/o why are we so fat?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't get it why American schools serve any food to begin with. It really amazes me. I am an immigrant and went to school in Europe. There was no kitchen in my school. Some students ate snacks during recess (that they brought from home or purchased in neighboring stores) but most children didn't eat anything. You ate before you go to school and then when you get home. It's not like you anybody starved though there were very few (like 1 per 30) overweight children.
But don't you guys go to school that is within walking distance from home and you go home for lunch and a nap?
This above poster must be from some Third World Nation. I don't know of any developed country that doesn't give a lunch or lunch break to children.
I didn't say there was no "lunch break". There was one 20 minutes break during which some children ate but many didn't. Note that I didn't say they "had lunch". Most people there eat lunch around 3-4 pm.
Some schools did have small kitchens but that was nothing compared to the restaurant level service here. Very few students utilized them. Maybe that made my country of origin a "third world country". Nevertheless, there were virtually no fat children.
Anonymous
06/18/2012 21:28
Subject: S/o why are we so fat?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don't get it why American schools serve any food to begin with. It really amazes me. I am an immigrant and went to school in Europe. There was no kitchen in my school. Some students ate snacks during recess (that they brought from home or purchased in neighboring stores) but most children didn't eat anything. You ate before you go to school and then when you get home. It's not like you anybody starved though there were very few (like 1 per 30) overweight children.
But don't you guys go to school that is within walking distance from home and you go home for lunch and a nap?
This above poster must be from some Third World Nation. I don't know of any developed country that doesn't give a lunch or lunch break to children.
Anonymous
06/18/2012 20:44
Subject: S/o why are we so fat?
Anonymous wrote:I don't get it why American schools serve any food to begin with. It really amazes me. I am an immigrant and went to school in Europe. There was no kitchen in my school. Some students ate snacks during recess (that they brought from home or purchased in neighboring stores) but most children didn't eat anything. You ate before you go to school and then when you get home. It's not like you anybody starved though there were very few (like 1 per 30) overweight children.
But don't you guys go to school that is within walking distance from home and you go home for lunch and a nap?
Anonymous
06/18/2012 20:40
Subject: S/o why are we so fat?
Sedentary lifestyles
Anonymous
06/18/2012 20:29
Subject: S/o why are we so fat?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"So schools are supposed to prevent children from being fat, as well as educate them in academic subjects? Isn't anything the parents' job nowadays? You'd like the schools to serve as fat camps as well?
No it is not the job of the schools."
Of course it is. Why do you think we adopted universal free education in this country? It wasn't just to educate people in academic subjects; it was to form good citizens to benefit our society and shore up our democracy.
In any event, I'll throw in another culprit, which is how our food is grown and processed in this country. It isn't easy to eat really clean food - food that hasn't been genetically modified, hasn't been processed with chemicals. Think about cooking oil - the molecular structure changes when it is made through a warm pressed vs. cold pressed method, which is the cheapest and most common way to do it. So even people cooking from scratch made be using oil that has been processed in a way that our bodies are not used to. Same with so many other ingredients. Grain fed vs. grass fed beef differ nutritionally. My theory is that we're not getting the nutrients we need, which makes us crave more/eat more food in general. Couple that with the wide-scale availability of foods that we know are not good for us but we want anyway, and it is really hard to maintain a normal weight.
Schools can serve healthy food, talk about nutrition, and run kids for hours, but when the kid comes to school with a Coke in one hand a bag of Cheetos in the other (bought by a parent at the hot dog stand down the street), the whole "healthy food" message is diluted.
I don't get it why American schools serve any food to begin with. It really amazes me. I am an immigrant and went to school in Europe. There was no kitchen in my school. Some students ate snacks during recess (that they brought from home or purchased in neighboring stores) but most children didn't eat anything. You ate before you go to school and then when you get home. It's not like you anybody starved though there were very few (like 1 per 30) overweight children.
My kids get on the school bus at 8:30 am and off about 4 pm. I can't imagine not feeding them for 7.5 hours...
But why? What would happen if they didn't eat for 8 hours?
They would be so hungry they wouldn't be able to concentrate on their work.
If they are concentrated on their work they would forget they are hungry. It's only because they are not that everything bothers them and has to be just so.
Anonymous
06/18/2012 20:27
Subject: S/o why are we so fat?
My DH grew up in SA and had lunch at school, which was steak and veggies. When he came to the US in HS and saw macaroni and cheese, he said he wanted to vomit. (Now he likes it, btw.) Not all schools abroad do not provide lunch or lunchtime for kids. Where were you, PP?!
Anonymous
06/18/2012 19:38
Subject: S/o why are we so fat?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:18:19 here
8 hours is too long to go without eating. I am not overweight. I workout every day and wear a size 2. I also eat every two-three hours, or I find myself losing concentration, getting angry/irritable, etc. The only time I go about 8 hours without eating is when I am asleep.
According to other posts, this is a 1940 size 10.
So what? It's a small size, the point is she's not overweight.
Anonymous
06/18/2012 19:19
Subject: S/o why are we so fat?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"So schools are supposed to prevent children from being fat, as well as educate them in academic subjects? Isn't anything the parents' job nowadays? You'd like the schools to serve as fat camps as well?
No it is not the job of the schools."
Of course it is. Why do you think we adopted universal free education in this country? It wasn't just to educate people in academic subjects; it was to form good citizens to benefit our society and shore up our democracy.
In any event, I'll throw in another culprit, which is how our food is grown and processed in this country. It isn't easy to eat really clean food - food that hasn't been genetically modified, hasn't been processed with chemicals. Think about cooking oil - the molecular structure changes when it is made through a warm pressed vs. cold pressed method, which is the cheapest and most common way to do it. So even people cooking from scratch made be using oil that has been processed in a way that our bodies are not used to. Same with so many other ingredients. Grain fed vs. grass fed beef differ nutritionally. My theory is that we're not getting the nutrients we need, which makes us crave more/eat more food in general. Couple that with the wide-scale availability of foods that we know are not good for us but we want anyway, and it is really hard to maintain a normal weight.
Schools can serve healthy food, talk about nutrition, and run kids for hours, but when the kid comes to school with a Coke in one hand a bag of Cheetos in the other (bought by a parent at the hot dog stand down the street), the whole "healthy food" message is diluted.
I don't get it why American schools serve any food to begin with. It really amazes me. I am an immigrant and went to school in Europe. There was no kitchen in my school. Some students ate snacks during recess (that they brought from home or purchased in neighboring stores) but most children didn't eat anything. You ate before you go to school and then when you get home. It's not like you anybody starved though there were very few (like 1 per 30) overweight children.
My kids get on the school bus at 8:30 am and off about 4 pm. I can't imagine not feeding them for 7.5 hours...
But why? What would happen if they didn't eat for 8 hours?
Low blood sugar, inability to concentrate, irritability. Get a clue. I teach Pre-K and can't imagine my kids not eating for eight hours. What a nightmare.
Anonymous
06/18/2012 19:12
Subject: S/o why are we so fat?
Anonymous wrote:18:19 here
8 hours is too long to go without eating. I am not overweight. I workout every day and wear a size 2. I also eat every two-three hours, or I find myself losing concentration, getting angry/irritable, etc. The only time I go about 8 hours without eating is when I am asleep.
According to other posts, this is a 1940 size 10.
Anonymous
06/18/2012 18:57
Subject: Re:S/o why are we so fat?
It's like in Wall-E.