http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/20/us/father-not-ch...S-ROS-0612-NEWS&WT.mc_ev=click

I'm not sure if I pasted the link correctly but it looks like the GJ did not return an indictment. Thank goodness.

The poor father was beside himself. It sounds as though he was horrified he hurt the man to the extent he did.

Didn't click your link but read this on AP yesterday. What *pissed me off* was that it seems like the reporter(s) went all over town and tried to talk to the guy, his family, neighbors, friends, etc.

I agree he did the right thing but after reading how horrified he was on the 911 call, I really wish ppl would leave this man alone.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/20/us/father-not-charged-in-killing-of-man-molesting-his-daughter-5.html?_r=1&emc=rss&partner=rss&WT.mc_id=GN-D-E-AD-OB-TXT-US-ROS-0612-NEWS&WT.mc_ev=click

I'm not sure if I pasted the link correctly but it looks like the GJ did not return an indictment. Thank goodness.

The poor father was beside himself. It sounds as though he was horrified he hurt the man to the extent he did.

PP, thank you for trying to stop the rampage against the murder is murder poster. I am with the dad here, but he did kill someone. I would be inclined to do the same.

At the end of the day here, the four year old does not have to grow up in fear that her attacker will come back and get her. So, she lives with having watched daddy kill someone bad. I think that might be easier to cope with than always being afraid that the bad man will come back to get her.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/11/justice/texas-abuser-killed/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

Hope he gets off. Sounds like the police are recognizing him for the hero that he is.

In this country, we do not take the laws into our own hands. Murder is murder. This is not a case of self defense

In this country we do not allow our children to be hurt. Killing the sumbitch who raped my daughter? That's summa cum laude. All day.
You sound like a person who doesn't have kids.

No, he sounds like a person who rapes kids.

Will you stop with that? Just because someone is uneasy with how the situation was handled doesn't make him/ her a pedophile or a rapist. The dad sounds legit, but when you kill the suspected offender, you subvert the entire justice process. I am not saying the dad should not get off, but lethal defense is usually reserved for life or death situations.

It absolutely does not make someone a pedophile to question vigilante justice. Or even someone who doesn't have kids. What it does mean is that the person, theoretically, can see past his/ her emotions.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/11/justice/texas-abuser-killed/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

Hope he gets off. Sounds like the police are recognizing him for the hero that he is.

In this country, we do not take the laws into our own hands. Murder is murder. This is not a case of self defense

In this country we do not allow our children to be hurt. Killing the sumbitch who raped my daughter? That's summa cum laude. All day.
You sound like a person who doesn't have kids.

No, he sounds like a person who rapes kids.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/11/justice/texas-abuser-killed/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

Hope he gets off. Sounds like the police are recognizing him for the hero that he is.

In this country, we do not take the laws into our own hands. Murder is murder. This is not a case of self defense

In this country we do not allow our children to be hurt. Killing the sumbitch who raped my daughter? That's summa cum laude. All day.
You sound like a person who doesn't have kids.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/11/justice/texas-abuser-killed/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

Hope he gets off. Sounds like the police are recognizing him for the hero that he is.

In this country, we do not take the laws into our own hands. Murder is murder. This is not a case of self defense

It's defense of others (his daughter). Same thing.

Sounds like they are not going to charge him, which is good.

When I read stories like this, the father's impulse to use deadly force to protect his daughter is 1000% understandable and I would probably feel the same way.

But if they charged the father and he went to jail, that would make everything even worse for her. Getting over what happened to her and perhaps what she saw is already bad enough. I'm really glad it seems like they will not charge him.

I think the "she'll be proud of her daddy" stuff above is a little too glib. This poor child has been through hell, and hopefully the prosecutors and police won't make it worse by taking her daddy away.

Let that pedophile who wrote "murder is murder" and every other pedophile following this case be put on alert. Leave our children alone.

Im ok with his actions and he has a long life ahead to remind him of how me made the right decision. Sucks to happen to a 23yr old.

On Texas stand your ground law from Wikipedia:

In 2005 Texas passed House Bill 94[32] which created an exception for unlawful entry of place of residence to a 1973 statute, which required a person to retreat in the face of a criminal attack unless a "reasonable person in the actor's situation would not have retreated".[33]

In 2007 Texas Legislature passed Senate Bill 378 which extends a person’s right to stand their ground beyond the home to vehicles and workplaces, allowing the reasonable use of deadly force when an intruder is:

* Committing certain violent crimes, such as murder or sexual assault, or is attempting to commit such crimes;
* Unlawfully trying to enter a protected place; or
* Unlawfully trying to remove a person from a protected place.[13]

Senate Bill 378, made effective September 1, 2007, also "abolishes the duty to retreat if the defendant can show he: (1) had a right to be present at the location where deadly force was used; (2) did not provoke the person against whom deadly force was used; and (3) was not engaged in criminal activity at the time deadly force was used."[34]

Not a fan of stand your ground laws, and it would most likely not be needed in this case as the guy clearly deserved to die. It is clear, however, the law is on the side of the dad here.

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Anonymous wrote:Good.

At worst he could be convicted of voluntary manslaughter, because the assault of his daughter was provocation. Even so, he was acting in defense of his daughter and it's unlikely a jury would convict him.

If I were the police, I would not arrest him; if I were the prosecutor, I would decline to prosecute; if I were a grand juror, I would refuse to indict; if I were a judge, I would not let this case get to the jury; if I were on the jury, I would never convict; if I were the governor, I'd pardon him. If all of those safeguards fail, and he ends up in jail, it is torches and pitchforks time, and anyone who has any part of charging or convicting him should be tarred and feathered forthwith.

Well put.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/11/justice/texas-abuser-killed/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

Hope he gets off. Sounds like the police are recognizing him for the hero that he is.

In this country, we do not take the laws into our own hands. Murder is murder. This is not a case of self defense

Yes, it is! It is self-defense in th ethrid party of a minor child. It absolutely is legitimate and thank GOD that it is. Anyone who has a problem with what the father did in response to the immediate threat to his 4 year old daughter must be a pedophile him/her self as far as I am concerned. This was completely justified.

Anonymous wrote:Good.

At worst he could be convicted of voluntary manslaughter, because the assault of his daughter was provocation. Even so, he was acting in defense of his daughter and it's unlikely a jury would convict him.

If I were the police, I would not arrest him; if I were the prosecutor, I would decline to prosecute; if I were a grand juror, I would refuse to indict; if I were a judge, I would not let this case get to the jury; if I were on the jury, I would never convict; if I were the governor, I'd pardon him. If all of those safeguards fail, and he ends up in jail, it is torches and pitchforks time, and anyone who has any part of charging or convicting him should be tarred and feathered forthwith.

Anonymous wrote:http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/11/justice/texas-abuser-killed/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

Hope he gets off. Sounds like the police are recognizing him for the hero that he is.

the father didnt do enough. i would have killed his ass dead 2-3 times over.