Anonymous
Post 05/23/2012 16:15     Subject: Grocery List - 10 things.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Whole Milk
Whole milk yogurt
grass fed ground beef
Asparagus
Blueberries
Carrots
whole chicken to roast
Onions
Zuchini
Eggs


This sounds like a good list to me. I would swap out the zucchini for rice, though. And because we're on a big food budgeting kick, I might trade the ground beef for black beans.
I would consider swapping out something for avocados, maybe the zucchini.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2012 14:51     Subject: Grocery List - 10 things.

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Milk
Eggs
Noodles
Cheese
Cereal
Apples
Broccoli
Chicken
Bread

But honestly the kids would be pleading starvation 2 hours in


Of course they would. You keep them hopped up on carbs. Three of your ten would really be wheat?


Oh relax, Food Nazi.


They are your kids. But you might want to take a second to look at how much processed food you are feeding them.


OMG This is extreme to a fault. What's processed about pasta? Is this the same poster who gives her daughter the bento box with 5 selections including broccoli, apples and soy butter every day for school?

Pasta is made of flour. Flour is a processed food. Whole wheat would be much better, but I would still think about the percentage of processed food. It seems extreme because we have been so conditioned to eat processed food that we don't even recognize it anymore. This is turning into a major health crisis - over 42% of Americans will be obese in less than 20 years if we don't all start taking some nutritional positions that may currently be viewed as extreme.

Yes, it is the bento box poster, but the lunch is not the same everyday. Today she had a hummus sandwich (I have absolutely no problem with her having bread, just not at every meal), fruit salad, a cheese stick (more salt than I would like, but she loves them so i get them occassionally), and cherry tomatoes.


I don't have a bone to pick with how you or your daughter eats, it's just that nothing but nothing on that list including pasta is the reason for the obesity epidemic. It's the Twinkies and Hostess pies and snicker's bars, french fries and shakes that your daughter might very well turn to stuffing her face with when she's older and can make her own food choices.


You are wrong: Modern wheat, which likely forms the base of the pasta, bread, and cereal, is a major factor in the obesity epidemic. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/wheat-gluten_b_1274872.html

Moreover, I am not claiming that my child will never eat poorly. All I can do is try to give her the base, and she will have to make her own conclusions. This is the same with just about every aspect of parenting, no?



Let me just give you another perspective. My mother was obsessed with us only eating healthy foods our entire childhood. I say "was" but it really is "is." I could write pages on this issue but let's just say it's not just about the food. It's a control issue. And as a result my brother, my sister, and I have all struggled with food issues. I don't want to say we've all had eating disorders, but it's close. Yes, I am hyper aware of the nutritional value of foods. It's good that I have a thorough understanding of what's healthy, the value of not eating processed foods, eating plenty of fruits and vegetables, whole grains, limiting salt and sugar, portion control, preservatives, protein v. carbs, not eating too many snacks etc. But I have unnecessary guilt about eating run-of-the-mill foods -- and, at the same time, I rebel against super healthy food choices. I have trouble telling if I'm hungry now because, as a child, I needed more food (or at leastmore stick-to-your-ribs-type food) than my mom thought that I needed, so I was often hungry. I will teach my kids about healthy eating but will give them other options too. It won't kill them. I won't refuse to let them eat treats, processed foods, etc. Everything in moderation.


I think the poster you are agruing with is a complete and total nut job, BUT my mom was really focused on healthy eating, including a few years or vegetarianism and there are three of us kids. All of us eat very healthy and we are all very thin. I never developed a taste for sugar and don't really like sweet foods now. I never eat dessert, it is way too strong a taste for me. If I do want something sweet, I like a fairly bitter dark chocolate.

I'm so grateful for my mom providing a whole foods diet. Whenver my weight creeps up, it is so easy for me to tamp is back down by returning to my roots.


Why do you think that I am a nut job? It sounds like your mother was actually more extreme than I am. I love to bake, and I make some mean desserts. I just try to not to have them - or any other processed food - at every single meal.


Read your posts and figure it out, but I'm sure you will remain clueless. Crazy people normally are blissfully unaware, this is mental illness.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2012 14:48     Subject: Grocery List - 10 things.

Why the harshing on making your own pasta? I do it all the time, and it takes less time and effort that going to the store when I have nothing carb-like for dinner. It is no healthier than pasta from a box, but it tastes better and my kid likes cranking the pasta maker.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2012 13:03     Subject: Re:Grocery List - 10 things.

Chicken wings
Ground Beef
Tomatoes
Cabbage
Bread
Cheese
Bologna
Spaghetti Noodles
Fish
Potatoes
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2012 12:59     Subject: Grocery List - 10 things.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Milk
Eggs
Noodles
Cheese
Cereal
Apples
Broccoli
Chicken
Bread

But honestly the kids would be pleading starvation 2 hours in


Of course they would. You keep them hopped up on carbs. Three of your ten would really be wheat?


Oh relax, Food Nazi.


They are your kids. But you might want to take a second to look at how much processed food you are feeding them.


OMG This is extreme to a fault. What's processed about pasta? Is this the same poster who gives her daughter the bento box with 5 selections including broccoli, apples and soy butter every day for school?

Pasta is made of flour. Flour is a processed food. Whole wheat would be much better, but I would still think about the percentage of processed food. It seems extreme because we have been so conditioned to eat processed food that we don't even recognize it anymore. This is turning into a major health crisis - over 42% of Americans will be obese in less than 20 years if we don't all start taking some nutritional positions that may currently be viewed as extreme.

Yes, it is the bento box poster, but the lunch is not the same everyday. Today she had a hummus sandwich (I have absolutely no problem with her having bread, just not at every meal), fruit salad, a cheese stick (more salt than I would like, but she loves them so i get them occassionally), and cherry tomatoes.


I don't have a bone to pick with how you or your daughter eats, it's just that nothing but nothing on that list including pasta is the reason for the obesity epidemic. It's the Twinkies and Hostess pies and snicker's bars, french fries and shakes that your daughter might very well turn to stuffing her face with when she's older and can make her own food choices.


You are wrong: Modern wheat, which likely forms the base of the pasta, bread, and cereal, is a major factor in the obesity epidemic. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/wheat-gluten_b_1274872.html

Moreover, I am not claiming that my child will never eat poorly. All I can do is try to give her the base, and she will have to make her own conclusions. This is the same with just about every aspect of parenting, no?



Let me just give you another perspective. My mother was obsessed with us only eating healthy foods our entire childhood. I say "was" but it really is "is." I could write pages on this issue but let's just say it's not just about the food. It's a control issue. And as a result my brother, my sister, and I have all struggled with food issues. I don't want to say we've all had eating disorders, but it's close. Yes, I am hyper aware of the nutritional value of foods. It's good that I have a thorough understanding of what's healthy, the value of not eating processed foods, eating plenty of fruits and vegetables, whole grains, limiting salt and sugar, portion control, preservatives, protein v. carbs, not eating too many snacks etc. But I have unnecessary guilt about eating run-of-the-mill foods -- and, at the same time, I rebel against super healthy food choices. I have trouble telling if I'm hungry now because, as a child, I needed more food (or at leastmore stick-to-your-ribs-type food) than my mom thought that I needed, so I was often hungry. I will teach my kids about healthy eating but will give them other options too. It won't kill them. I won't refuse to let them eat treats, processed foods, etc. Everything in moderation.


I think the poster you are agruing with is a complete and total nut job, BUT my mom was really focused on healthy eating, including a few years or vegetarianism and there are three of us kids. All of us eat very healthy and we are all very thin. I never developed a taste for sugar and don't really like sweet foods now. I never eat dessert, it is way too strong a taste for me. If I do want something sweet, I like a fairly bitter dark chocolate.

I'm so grateful for my mom providing a whole foods diet. Whenver my weight creeps up, it is so easy for me to tamp is back down by returning to my roots.


Why do you think that I am a nut job? It sounds like your mother was actually more extreme than I am. I love to bake, and I make some mean desserts. I just try to not to have them - or any other processed food - at every single meal.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2012 12:53     Subject: Grocery List - 10 things.

Anonymous wrote:Whole Milk
Whole milk yogurt
grass fed ground beef
Asparagus
Blueberries
Carrots
whole chicken to roast
Onions
Zuchini
Eggs


This sounds like a good list to me. I would swap out the zucchini for rice, though. And because we're on a big food budgeting kick, I might trade the ground beef for black beans.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2012 12:49     Subject: Re:Grocery List - 10 things.

Our family loves to eat - carbs, processed foods, whole foods - you name it, we eat it. We are also all slim, athletic, and I would have to buy this list in massive quantities to feed 3 boys for a week:

1. Whole milk
2. Yogurt
3. Peanut Butter
4. Bread
5. Extra-lean ground beef (don't care if it's grass fed or not)
6. Carrots
7. Cantaloupe (or other melon or wine)
8. Apples
9. Broccoli
10. Eggs
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2012 12:39     Subject: Grocery List - 10 things.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Milk
Eggs
Noodles
Cheese
Cereal
Apples
Broccoli
Chicken
Bread

But honestly the kids would be pleading starvation 2 hours in


Of course they would. You keep them hopped up on carbs. Three of your ten would really be wheat?


Oh relax, Food Nazi.


They are your kids. But you might want to take a second to look at how much processed food you are feeding them.


OMG This is extreme to a fault. What's processed about pasta? Is this the same poster who gives her daughter the bento box with 5 selections including broccoli, apples and soy butter every day for school?

Pasta is made of flour. Flour is a processed food. Whole wheat would be much better, but I would still think about the percentage of processed food. It seems extreme because we have been so conditioned to eat processed food that we don't even recognize it anymore. This is turning into a major health crisis - over 42% of Americans will be obese in less than 20 years if we don't all start taking some nutritional positions that may currently be viewed as extreme.

Yes, it is the bento box poster, but the lunch is not the same everyday. Today she had a hummus sandwich (I have absolutely no problem with her having bread, just not at every meal), fruit salad, a cheese stick (more salt than I would like, but she loves them so i get them occassionally), and cherry tomatoes.


I don't have a bone to pick with how you or your daughter eats, it's just that nothing but nothing on that list including pasta is the reason for the obesity epidemic. It's the Twinkies and Hostess pies and snicker's bars, french fries and shakes that your daughter might very well turn to stuffing her face with when she's older and can make her own food choices.


You are wrong: Modern wheat, which likely forms the base of the pasta, bread, and cereal, is a major factor in the obesity epidemic. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/wheat-gluten_b_1274872.html

Moreover, I am not claiming that my child will never eat poorly. All I can do is try to give her the base, and she will have to make her own conclusions. This is the same with just about every aspect of parenting, no?



Let me just give you another perspective. My mother was obsessed with us only eating healthy foods our entire childhood. I say "was" but it really is "is." I could write pages on this issue but let's just say it's not just about the food. It's a control issue. And as a result my brother, my sister, and I have all struggled with food issues. I don't want to say we've all had eating disorders, but it's close. Yes, I am hyper aware of the nutritional value of foods. It's good that I have a thorough understanding of what's healthy, the value of not eating processed foods, eating plenty of fruits and vegetables, whole grains, limiting salt and sugar, portion control, preservatives, protein v. carbs, not eating too many snacks etc. But I have unnecessary guilt about eating run-of-the-mill foods -- and, at the same time, I rebel against super healthy food choices. I have trouble telling if I'm hungry now because, as a child, I needed more food (or at leastmore stick-to-your-ribs-type food) than my mom thought that I needed, so I was often hungry. I will teach my kids about healthy eating but will give them other options too. It won't kill them. I won't refuse to let them eat treats, processed foods, etc. Everything in moderation.


I completely agree with you. My child gets plenty of treats, and I don't disallow anything altogether. She eats pizza and cake just like the rest of them. But, they need to be treats, and not at every single meal. When eating at home, or when packing a lunch, I make great strides to present healthy options and not just some form of bread at every single meal.

But, I wish more people would try going just one week without any processed food (as a cheat, just make there is nothing with flour, sugar, or a chemical compound that you can't pronounce in the ingredient list); it is amazing what we have begun to think is moderating, and I don't think most people have any idea how much processed food they are eating in every, single meal. Moderation is absolutely key, but we need to establish a baseline first, and right now it is way off.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2012 12:36     Subject: Re:Grocery List - 10 things.

Oh crap, almond milk for my lattes...
Let's say quinoa or rice
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2012 12:35     Subject: Grocery List - 10 things.

Avocadoes
Quinoa
Black or red beans
Lentils
Sausages
Red pepper
Eggs
Hummus
Rice, preferably black
Grapes
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2012 12:32     Subject: Grocery List - 10 things.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Milk
Eggs
Noodles
Cheese
Cereal
Apples
Broccoli
Chicken
Bread

But honestly the kids would be pleading starvation 2 hours in


Of course they would. You keep them hopped up on carbs. Three of your ten would really be wheat?


Oh relax, Food Nazi.


They are your kids. But you might want to take a second to look at how much processed food you are feeding them.


OMG This is extreme to a fault. What's processed about pasta? Is this the same poster who gives her daughter the bento box with 5 selections including broccoli, apples and soy butter every day for school?

Pasta is made of flour. Flour is a processed food. Whole wheat would be much better, but I would still think about the percentage of processed food. It seems extreme because we have been so conditioned to eat processed food that we don't even recognize it anymore. This is turning into a major health crisis - over 42% of Americans will be obese in less than 20 years if we don't all start taking some nutritional positions that may currently be viewed as extreme.

Yes, it is the bento box poster, but the lunch is not the same everyday. Today she had a hummus sandwich (I have absolutely no problem with her having bread, just not at every meal), fruit salad, a cheese stick (more salt than I would like, but she loves them so i get them occassionally), and cherry tomatoes.


I don't have a bone to pick with how you or your daughter eats, it's just that nothing but nothing on that list including pasta is the reason for the obesity epidemic. It's the Twinkies and Hostess pies and snicker's bars, french fries and shakes that your daughter might very well turn to stuffing her face with when she's older and can make her own food choices.


You are wrong: Modern wheat, which likely forms the base of the pasta, bread, and cereal, is a major factor in the obesity epidemic. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/wheat-gluten_b_1274872.html

Moreover, I am not claiming that my child will never eat poorly. All I can do is try to give her the base, and she will have to make her own conclusions. This is the same with just about every aspect of parenting, no?



Let me just give you another perspective. My mother was obsessed with us only eating healthy foods our entire childhood. I say "was" but it really is "is." I could write pages on this issue but let's just say it's not just about the food. It's a control issue. And as a result my brother, my sister, and I have all struggled with food issues. I don't want to say we've all had eating disorders, but it's close. Yes, I am hyper aware of the nutritional value of foods. It's good that I have a thorough understanding of what's healthy, the value of not eating processed foods, eating plenty of fruits and vegetables, whole grains, limiting salt and sugar, portion control, preservatives, protein v. carbs, not eating too many snacks etc. But I have unnecessary guilt about eating run-of-the-mill foods -- and, at the same time, I rebel against super healthy food choices. I have trouble telling if I'm hungry now because, as a child, I needed more food (or at leastmore stick-to-your-ribs-type food) than my mom thought that I needed, so I was often hungry. I will teach my kids about healthy eating but will give them other options too. It won't kill them. I won't refuse to let them eat treats, processed foods, etc. Everything in moderation.


I think the poster you are agruing with is a complete and total nut job, BUT my mom was really focused on healthy eating, including a few years or vegetarianism and there are three of us kids. All of us eat very healthy and we are all very thin. I never developed a taste for sugar and don't really like sweet foods now. I never eat dessert, it is way too strong a taste for me. If I do want something sweet, I like a fairly bitter dark chocolate.

I'm so grateful for my mom providing a whole foods diet. Whenver my weight creeps up, it is so easy for me to tamp is back down by returning to my roots.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2012 12:24     Subject: Grocery List - 10 things.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Milk
Eggs
Noodles
Cheese
Cereal
Apples
Broccoli
Chicken
Bread

But honestly the kids would be pleading starvation 2 hours in


Of course they would. You keep them hopped up on carbs. Three of your ten would really be wheat?


Oh relax, Food Nazi.


They are your kids. But you might want to take a second to look at how much processed food you are feeding them.


OMG This is extreme to a fault. What's processed about pasta? Is this the same poster who gives her daughter the bento box with 5 selections including broccoli, apples and soy butter every day for school?

Pasta is made of flour. Flour is a processed food. Whole wheat would be much better, but I would still think about the percentage of processed food. It seems extreme because we have been so conditioned to eat processed food that we don't even recognize it anymore. This is turning into a major health crisis - over 42% of Americans will be obese in less than 20 years if we don't all start taking some nutritional positions that may currently be viewed as extreme.

Yes, it is the bento box poster, but the lunch is not the same everyday. Today she had a hummus sandwich (I have absolutely no problem with her having bread, just not at every meal), fruit salad, a cheese stick (more salt than I would like, but she loves them so i get them occassionally), and cherry tomatoes.


I don't have a bone to pick with how you or your daughter eats, it's just that nothing but nothing on that list including pasta is the reason for the obesity epidemic. It's the Twinkies and Hostess pies and snicker's bars, french fries and shakes that your daughter might very well turn to stuffing her face with when she's older and can make her own food choices.


You are wrong: Modern wheat, which likely forms the base of the pasta, bread, and cereal, is a major factor in the obesity epidemic. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/wheat-gluten_b_1274872.html

Moreover, I am not claiming that my child will never eat poorly. All I can do is try to give her the base, and she will have to make her own conclusions. This is the same with just about every aspect of parenting, no?



Let me just give you another perspective. My mother was obsessed with us only eating healthy foods our entire childhood. I say "was" but it really is "is." I could write pages on this issue but let's just say it's not just about the food. It's a control issue. And as a result my brother, my sister, and I have all struggled with food issues. I don't want to say we've all had eating disorders, but it's close. Yes, I am hyper aware of the nutritional value of foods. It's good that I have a thorough understanding of what's healthy, the value of not eating processed foods, eating plenty of fruits and vegetables, whole grains, limiting salt and sugar, portion control, preservatives, protein v. carbs, not eating too many snacks etc. But I have unnecessary guilt about eating run-of-the-mill foods -- and, at the same time, I rebel against super healthy food choices. I have trouble telling if I'm hungry now because, as a child, I needed more food (or at leastmore stick-to-your-ribs-type food) than my mom thought that I needed, so I was often hungry. I will teach my kids about healthy eating but will give them other options too. It won't kill them. I won't refuse to let them eat treats, processed foods, etc. Everything in moderation.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2012 12:16     Subject: Grocery List - 10 things.

1 milk (whole, organic)
2 cheddar cheese (no rbgh)
3 whole chicken (free range, hormone free)
4 apples (local, organic)
5 black beans (canned, and the haters can bite me)
6 rice (white sushi rice, and the haters can bite me)
7 eggs (free range, hormone free)
8 pork shoulder
9 tomatoes
10 cauliflower

DD and I could easily live off that. DH, OTOH, would shoot himself.
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2012 12:12     Subject: Grocery List - 10 things.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cheetos
Lucky charms
Diet coke
Ho hos
Snackables
Bacon
Lots of pop tarts
I don't even need 10 items, this is it


Do you pour the diet coke over the Lucky Charms? My brother had to do that for a while when he lived in the Soviet Union in the early 80's. He liked it, but he was 12...


I had a german exchange student in HS... he liked apple cinnamon rice krispies with orange juice. Not a glass of OJ on the side, OJ poured right over the cereal
Anonymous
Post 05/23/2012 12:12     Subject: Grocery List - 10 things.

black beans
whole chicken
block pepper jack
avocado
summer corn
tomatoes
biggest pack of berries I can find
eggs
pasta OR lavash bread
milk OR ice cream