Anonymous
Post 04/24/2012 16:02     Subject: TJ admission statistics from 2012

Anonymous wrote:

I've read about the highly selective schools in Korea and China. Do Americans who live in Korea or China who speak the language study for the selection exams and attend the schools there? I assume they would have to pay tuition.


Actually, Yes. I'm a pasty white guy born and raised here. The Army sent me to language school fro Korean and then to Yonsei U in Korea and I seriouslly had to study my tail off to pass the admission exam....

All the schools in Korea beyond grade 6 have a fee but it is low. It's the same for the white folk as locals.

Anonymous
Post 04/24/2012 15:06     Subject: Re:TJ admission statistics from 2012

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why don't the Koreans go to good schools in their own country? Isn't the Korean government concerned they are losing students to the US?


Because you are not going to see anywhere in the world high quality FREE education


My VA state tax bill does not equal FREE. This is also a great argument for the fair tax; so that I am not footing the bill.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2012 14:54     Subject: TJ admission statistics from 2012



I've read about the highly selective schools in Korea and China. Do Americans who live in Korea or China who speak the language study for the selection exams and attend the schools there? I assume they would have to pay tuition.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2012 13:43     Subject: Re:TJ admission statistics from 2012

Anonymous wrote:Why don't the Koreans go to good schools in their own country? Isn't the Korean government concerned they are losing students to the US?


Because you are not going to see anywhere in the world high quality FREE education
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2012 10:37     Subject: TJ admission statistics from 2012

Anonymous wrote:I guess I'm close-minded and provincial, but it bugs me that local public school resources--paid for by tax dollars especially property tax dollars-- are going to citizens of other countries whose parents pay nothing. Especially if the resource is very valuable and scarce (e.g. a seat at TJ).


You mean the Koreans and Chinese wouldn't let Americans take advantage of them the same way?

The foreigners are obviously abusing the system and sealing TJ's fate. There should be an audit.

Anonymous
Post 04/24/2012 10:36     Subject: TJ admission statistics from 2012

Anonymous wrote:I guess I'm close-minded and provincial, but it bugs me that local public school resources--paid for by tax dollars especially property tax dollars-- are going to citizens of other countries whose parents pay nothing. Especially if the resource is very valuable and scarce (e.g. a seat at TJ).


They pay Tuition.

http://www.fcps.edu/parents/start/kindergarten.shtml
"Tuition is charged for students whose parents do not live in Fairfax County. Contact Student Registration at 703-204-6744 for enrollment of nonresident students."

Anonymous
Post 04/24/2012 10:07     Subject: TJ admission statistics from 2012

I guess I'm close-minded and provincial, but it bugs me that local public school resources--paid for by tax dollars especially property tax dollars-- are going to citizens of other countries whose parents pay nothing. Especially if the resource is very valuable and scarce (e.g. a seat at TJ).
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2012 08:25     Subject: Re:TJ admission statistics from 2012

Anonymous wrote:Why don't the Koreans go to good schools in their own country? Isn't the Korean government concerned they are losing students to the US?


Much less competition.

Many go back to Korea with good education/global knowledge and vision which is good for the country?
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2012 08:22     Subject: TJ admission statistics from 2012

Anonymous wrote:

As long as these kids stay in the US I have no problem at all with it. I'm perfectly happy for the rest of the world to send their best and brightest to the US as long as they stay!


Richest too. Some stay & some go back, but they are likely to understand US and be friendly to US which is good for US.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2012 08:18     Subject: TJ admission statistics from 2012

Anonymous wrote:
I'm Korean too (2nd gen), hello. I'm not "blaming foreigners," I'm saying that Koreans do send their kids here just to go to TJ, often sending them to live with extended family members, and that if they do the work they deserve those spots. I have no idea the percentage of students they compose. I can't think of any other foreign countries that talk up a specific HS on their embassy homepage, can you?


LOL I guess you are a Korean who can't read Korean.
There are many people come to US for longer term either for government business or private business.
The information on the embassy homepage is mostly about general information regarding education in US and in the area.
TJ is a special school in the area, so it talks little bit about that, too providing very simple general information.
I think you are paranoid. I know there are Koreans that send there kids here to go to good private schools or public schools(including TJ).
There are many (probably more) unsuccessful cases. There are pros, but also huge cons in doing that, and it's expensive. They make their decision.
Anonymous
Post 04/24/2012 07:36     Subject: Re:TJ admission statistics from 2012

Anonymous
Post 04/23/2012 21:08     Subject: TJ admission statistics from 2012

I am not sure how many students at TJ fall into this category, but apparently some Korean families send their children here for a more well rounded education.

It might be a point of concern that these families are not paying taxes, since the father's income is not earned here. However, local businesses do get their custom.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A59355-2005Jan8.html
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2012 21:05     Subject: TJ admission statistics from 2012

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Actually, there are many Korean children in Fairfax (specifically Annandale) who move here with relatives or even family friends. One older aunt or other female adult who is paid a salary by the families in Korea to chaperone the students, and multiple siblings, cousins, or unrelated students per house living dorm style.


This is a pretty open secret, the Korean Embassy even has a section on its website about TJ and its requirements:

http://www.koreaembassyusa.org/han_education/kor_edu_tj.asp?subgubun=3

I'm of the mindset that if they put that kind of effort into coming here and doing the necessary work than they deserve to go to TJ; but it is naive to assume stuff like this isn't going on.


what? no one is being naive. i am korean american and know very well that koreans send their kids to the US to get a better education. that page that you posted is generic information on education in fairfax county, with info on TJ... it is not info on how to send your kids here to live with strangers and board in their homes. i doubt that these kids are taking a lot of spots at TJ. i would focus on your own kids. if my kids don't get in, it's because they didn't make the cut. i will not be blaming it on foreigners, illegals, and what not...


I'm Korean too (2nd gen), hello. I'm not "blaming foreigners," I'm saying that Koreans do send their kids here just to go to TJ, often sending them to live with extended family members, and that if they do the work they deserve those spots. I have no idea the percentage of students they compose. I can't think of any other foreign countries that talk up a specific HS on their embassy homepage, can you?


No, I have not checked out other embassy homepages, but I guess there might be generic info on education in DC, VA, MD like what info you need to register your children in school. The page you reference does not talk up TJ. It talks about Fairfax County in general and then gives generic info on TJ - like when it was founded, how many students, etc. I don't find it odd that there's info on TJ on the embassy website especially since Korean care about education and TJ is a best high school in the country. I just don't see why any of this is relevant to the discussion.

Anonymous
Post 04/23/2012 20:48     Subject: TJ admission statistics from 2012

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
ITTA, Fairfax needs more magnet high schools but the school board and administrators are too caught up in politics to do what is best for the students. It seems like they loathe any program that siphons the brightest (AAP, TJ) out of the local schools.


This is the usual argument for the parents who think their bright kids who didn't get into TJ got a bum deal. Nothing prevents them from attending local schools that are among the best in the country and offer a staggering array of AP and IB courses.


No, I think the overwhelming numbers of qualified applicants to TJ means they should establish another school in another part of the county.


They should have a humanities high school in another part of the county.


Lol burger flippers
Anonymous
Post 04/23/2012 20:15     Subject: Re:TJ admission statistics from 2012

Why don't the Koreans go to good schools in their own country? Isn't the Korean government concerned they are losing students to the US?