YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYES!!! I'M 53 with a 14 & 10 year old. They're running me ragged with all their activities, homework, etc. Should of listen to the old folks advice - have your children while you young so that you could enjoy life later on. <<<Banging Head! >>>

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Anonymous wrote:too many self centered career women who don't realize their eggs are rotting away and their health.

Hi Senator Santorum.
Certainly I would have liked to have kids when I was younger....if I hadn't been so poor, if I had been in a relationship with the right person, if I actually wanted kids at that age, etc etc.

I think the data are pretty clear that older parents provide a more stable home and their children are much more likely to go to college and become good little taxpayers.

President Santorum har hahah ah hah a

Still laughing. Very funny.

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Anonymous wrote:PP, you know 15 is below the age of consent, right? In many jurisdictions (including DC) that would be statutory rape. How do you discuss this with your kids?

What is your point? My husband and I have now been married for 10 years; we've been together since I was 13. Should I call the police and have him arrested now?

I teach my children the same thing that you hopefully teach yours: to abstain from sex until they are married/in a committed relationship.

As a high school teacher who has taught many pregnant teens, this is just so wrong on so many levels.

shudder

As a high school teacher, is this your best response? Or do you get off on being vague?

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Anonymous wrote:too many self centered career women who don't realize their eggs are rotting away and their health.

Hi Senator Santorum.
Certainly I would have liked to have kids when I was younger....if I hadn't been so poor, if I had been in a relationship with the right person, if I actually wanted kids at that age, etc etc.

I think the data are pretty clear that older parents provide a more stable home and their children are much more likely to go to college and become good little taxpayers.

Link?

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Anonymous wrote:Mom @ 15: I totally respect your position. But I admit that I have used the statutory rape legal argument with my just turned 18 yo son (when discussing his relationship with his 16 yo girlfriend).

Very interesting. My husband is two years older and we honestly never had this discussion nor did I ever have this conversation with my parents. I guess because it didn't apply until I was 16 and by that point, we'd had a child.

Not getting this part. BTW while the two year age gap took him out of that statutory rape category it did not take him out of second degree rape because you were under 14 at the time. Anyway, I think that we can all agree that this is not a moot point.

Just curious (I have two daughters) what was your living arrangement between the time of your first child and the time you got married and how did your parents react to the "surprise" grandchild.

My parents (who were separated) were upset, but not overly so. She was probably more embarrassed than anything. Abortion was never a true option and neither was adoption. My Mom is a SAHM (stepdad in the home), so she kept my daughter while I went to school. My husband lived with his Mom who WOH. When we had our second, we were both working FT and we moved into our own place when the baby was about 5 months old.

I have a very atypical teen Mom experience. Fantastic family support, no judgment....just love all around for the child(ren). With all that said, my daughters know that I expect and want more for them and they live much different lives than I did as a teen. I don't see this being a factor (unless my 3 y/o has some surprises for me).

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Anonymous wrote:Back on topic: If I could have everything I have now, but just be younger, yes. I am 45 with a 6 year old and a 5 month old. At 38 with my first, it wasn't so bad. At 45 with my second, everything hurts, and I am pretty fit.

That being said, DH is 50 and he and I still run around chasing the 6 y.o. and playing. They do keep you young.

DH will be 69 and I'll be 63 when no. 2 graduates from high school. 73 and 67 when she gets out of college. Then we'll travel the world (oh, wait, we did that before kids).

If you're alive then.

What an awful thing to say. You are being cruel, and only you know the reason why, but I find it appalling. Some people don't meet their mates until they are older, and don't have a choice.

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Anonymous wrote:too many self centered career women who don't realize their eggs are rotting away and their health.

Hi Senator Santorum.
Certainly I would have liked to have kids when I was younger....if I hadn't been so poor, if I had been in a relationship with the right person, if I actually wanted kids at that age, etc etc.

I think the data are pretty clear that older parents provide a more stable home and their children are much more likely to go to college and become good little taxpayers.

President Santorum har hahah ah hah a

Anonymous wrote:too many self centered career women who don't realize their eggs are rotting away and their health.

two healthy kids from "old" eggs with NO interventions

VERY healthy kids . . .

What's your point?

If you live a healthy lifestyle, your body can produce some nice eggs, too!

Such jealousy from the young ones!

Anonymous wrote:Honestly it gets a little old hearing people talk about how they needed to live their lives before having a kid at 40. You will likely die before your child is finished needing you, and not really get to have much of an experience with grandchildren. Kinda selfish to keep saying me, me, me, I traveled!! Think it, fine, but no one is impressed. You should be less worried about your energy level than the fact that you will probably miss out on a lot of DC's life, and may saddle the kid with an aging parent while he/she has young children. Just sayin', save the "I lived, and that's what's important" crap.

Wow - what a "mature" response from a young parent!

LOL!

Get over yourself.

Shit happens, fool, and you deal. Not everyone gets knocked up at 23 (or 15, according to the PP). I had no interventions - had both as one-shot deals at 37 and 41. Do you think I should regret having them so "late" in life? They're great kids who are happy and have everything they need. They attend private, which we can afford b/c we're so goddamn old, according to you, and they have activities and friends to keep them occupied. And even I have energy to take them to the park!! Imagine that! I'm 45!

I don't understand the venom, PP. Are you jealous? I work PT, have a nanny, and and OLD mother (75 - God forbid she should still drive) who steps in when there's a conflict in our schedules, as we both work.

And guess what? I have my summers off! So I'm with my children - no need for camp!!!!!

I have a good life for an old gal, no? I'm healthy, in pretty good shape (despite some urinary incontinence), and energetic.

And b/c we're so fucking old, we invested in long-term healthcare. Does that make you happy? At least my kids won't be wiping my ass and changing my diapers in the next few years.

You make me laugh, PP. You must be incredibly insecure to post such inane comments.

yawn . . . Get some rest; tomorrow is another day.

Dear god, no. I was focused on graduate school, establishing my career, and establishing seniority in my field. So glad I did because that's how you establish both a satisfying career and work-life balance. I think that when you have children younger, you tend to drop out of the work force because you haven't earned enough seniority to take time off for child-related events that inevitably crop up.

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Anonymous wrote:PP, you know 15 is below the age of consent, right? In many jurisdictions (including DC) that would be statutory rape. How do you discuss this with your kids?

What is your point? My husband and I have now been married for 10 years; we've been together since I was 13. Should I call the police and have him arrested now?

I teach my children the same thing that you hopefully teach yours: to abstain from sex until they are married/in a committed relationship.

As a high school teacher who has taught many pregnant teens, this is just so wrong on so many levels.

shudder

Anonymous wrote:too many self centered career women who don't realize their eggs are rotting away and their health.

Hi Senator Santorum.
Certainly I would have liked to have kids when I was younger....if I hadn't been so poor, if I had been in a relationship with the right person, if I actually wanted kids at that age, etc etc.

I think the data are pretty clear that older parents provide a more stable home and their children are much more likely to go to college and become good little taxpayers.

I'll be 60. I really don't give a rat's ass, OP. As long as I'm healthy and in good shape, I'll be fine. 60 is young. And even if you die before you see your grandkids, don't fret. Know that you've done everything possible to raise some good human beings.

My oldest will be 8; my youngest will be 4. My now 3 yo boy is a major pain in the ass. seriously - But even if I were 10 years younger, he'd still be a major pain the ass.

truth

Anonymous wrote:I was reading the "how do you see yourself when you are elderly" thread and it just dawned on me that I will be 58 when you youngest child hits 18 (goes off to college). If they follow my lead in terms of when they have children I will be 70 before I see a grandchild. I am already having a hard time dealing with a 2yo - not becasue of low energy or anything like that - I just dont want to be bothered with the usual toddler drama. I am hoping its just a phase but I really wish that my kids were teenagers already - why did I wait so long.

Some are just too focused on career to be in the position to have ENOUGH for their future kids. Listen, you give your children enough to do something, not enough to do nothing!

Anonymous wrote:yes, we were physically designed to have kids ages 20-23. Anything older is going to be much harder on ourselves. Granted more money does help it still takes a physical toll. Thats why we have nannies in their 20s

Good gravy, but I would have been married to Lisa. What a disaster that would have been. We weren't designed to poop indoors or drink cows milk but I did those things too.

Money does make things easier, of course, though I might have had to wait until my life insurance paid out to afford a nanny.