RantingAtheist
02/23/2012 10:26
Subject: Re:Athiest giving up things for lent
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You so called atheists with your Christian practices are so funny. You have 325 (326 this year!) other days in the year to give up something to show sacrifice, yadda, yadda, blah, blah. BUT, you decide to do it during Lent.....but you're not a Christian and not partaking in a Christian custom. Yeah.............sure.
This. A hundred times, this.
A few months ago you people were whining that the atheists were going to destroy Christmas. Now someone mentions that they honor a Christian tradition and you pick on them for that, too. So no matter what they do with Christian traditions, it's wrong.
You are your own worst enemy.
actually, it looks like this poster is just giving back to you guys what some of you, not all of you, give to christians. Shoe is on the other foot now.
But I am a Christian. You don't convert anyone by slapping them for showing the slightest curiosity in our traditions. Here are people who don't have any connection to God, but they have some interest in our exercise of self-examination and discipline. That's a step. Whether it is a step toward God or a step toward tolerance and acceptance, who knows. But it is an opportunity for someone to appreciate our values.
So what do you go and do? Piss on them for doing it. Then, when I point out how you ranters just did the same thing at Christmas, you decide I am the enemy. Nope. When I said "you", I mean you judgmental Christians who are not living your faith. What would your priest or minister say of the things you have written in the name of our religion? You would be ashamed if they knew it was you. Christians are supposed to lead by example. When someone approaches us about our traditions, we should be showing them what they mean to us. And almost every religion has a tradition of atonement. It is something that can bind us together. Don't ruin it by making a mockery of the time of forgiveness and renewal.
I think if all Christians were as decent as you seem to be, there might be fewer atheists.
RantingAtheist
02/23/2012 10:24
Subject: Re:Athiest giving up things for lent
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You so called atheists with your Christian practices are so funny. You have 325 (326 this year!) other days in the year to give up something to show sacrifice, yadda, yadda, blah, blah. BUT, you decide to do it during Lent.....but you're not a Christian and not partaking in a Christian custom. Yeah.............sure.
This. A hundred times, this.
A few months ago you people were whining that the atheists were going to destroy Christmas. Now someone mentions that they honor a Christian tradition and you pick on them for that, too. So no matter what they do with Christian traditions, it's wrong.
You are your own worst enemy.
actually, it looks like this poster is just giving back to you guys what some of you, not all of you, give to christians. Shoe is on the other foot now.
But I am a Christian. You don't convert anyone by slapping them for showing the slightest curiosity in our traditions. Here are people who don't have any connection to God, but they have some interest in our exercise of self-examination and discipline. That's a step. Whether it is a step toward God or a step toward tolerance and acceptance, who knows. But it is an opportunity for someone to appreciate our values.
So what do you go and do? Piss on them for doing it. Then, when I point out how you ranters just did the same thing at Christmas, you decide I am the enemy. Nope. When I said "you", I mean you judgmental Christians who are not living your faith. What would your priest or minister say of the things you have written in the name of our religion? You would be ashamed if they knew it was you. Christians are supposed to lead by example. When someone approaches us about our traditions, we should be showing them what they mean to us. And almost every religion has a tradition of atonement. It is something that can bind us together. Don't ruin it by making a mockery of the time of forgiveness and renewal.
Don't kid yourself. These atheists aren't celebrating Christmas/Easter, observing Lent, etc to search for a connection to God. They make no bones about saying that they don't see God in these things, but instead do them for cultural reasons. It would be fantastic if people were to draw closer to God, but that is just not the case.
Not to judge, but you sound like the least "Christian" poster on thread. Like a Janist who goes around kicking dogs.
Quelle ironie.
Anonymous
02/23/2012 10:16
Subject: Athiest giving up things for lent
Fine, 10:30. But lack of centralization is not a blanket excuse for nasty and hypocritical atheist behavior.
Anonymous
02/23/2012 10:03
Subject: Athiest giving up things for lent
PP here again. Atheists, unlike followers of a particular religion, are not a collective group. We lack dogma. We lack cohesion. We share only a single belief, which is that there is no god or gods.
Anonymous
02/23/2012 09:57
Subject: Athiest giving up things for lent
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And people wonder why atheists are defensive.
Live and let live, folks!
Take some responsibility for your own behavior, for Pete's sake. If you want people to "like" you, stop behaving so badly on the What Are You Giving Up For Lent Thread. Or at least tell your fellow atheists to stop acting like a$$es there.
I'm sick of whiny atheists. A little like Marie Antoinette, you guys want to be obnoxious and feel sorry for yourselves at the same time.
I haven't responded to or even read the other Lent thread. The atheists responding there are not my leaders or followers. How 'bout you not hold me responsible for them and I won't hold you responsible for David Koresh, mmkay?
Anonymous
02/23/2012 09:57
Subject: Athiest giving up things for lent
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
There are plenty of whiny Christians. It is unfair to blame the many for the actions of the few.
And there MANY more Christians here, including me, who say we have no problem with you borrowing Lent. IMO, it looks like only a single Christian poster has a problem with it.
So why are you blaming all Christians for the actions of a single poster? I agree, clean up your acts if you don't want to seem like total hypocrites.
12:10/19:25 here. Just wanted to say that I don't have a problem with atheists participating in Christian observations. It is, however, a bit irritating when the very next day they're back to their "fairy in the sky" talk. Like I said, I find some of them to be extreme hypocrites or at some level, probably aren't comfortable with their decision to deny God.
Oh, come off it. It's just as easy to say that you find "fairy in the sky" talk to be irritating because you aren't comfortable with your belief in a god.
Anonymous
02/23/2012 09:52
Subject: Athiest giving up things for lent
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
There are plenty of whiny Christians. It is unfair to blame the many for the actions of the few.
And there MANY more Christians here, including me, who say we have no problem with you borrowing Lent. IMO, it looks like only a single Christian poster has a problem with it.
So why are you blaming all Christians for the actions of a single poster? I agree, clean up your acts if you don't want to seem like total hypocrites.
12:10/19:25 here. Just wanted to say that I don't have a problem with atheists participating in Christian observations. It is, however, a bit irritating when the very next day they're back to their "fairy in the sky" talk. Like I said, I find some of them to be extreme hypocrites or at some level, probably aren't comfortable with their decision to deny God.
Anonymous
02/23/2012 09:17
Subject: Athiest giving up things for lent
Anonymous wrote:
There are plenty of whiny Christians. It is unfair to blame the many for the actions of the few.
And there MANY more Christians here, including me, who say we have no problem with you borrowing Lent. IMO, it looks like only a single Christian poster has a problem with it.
So why are you blaming all Christians for the actions of a single poster? I agree, clean up your acts if you don't want to seem like total hypocrites.
Anonymous
02/23/2012 09:10
Subject: Re:Athiest giving up things for lent
I am neither a Christian nor an Atheist, but i see nothing wrong with appropriating other religions' teaching and practices. Lent is a good example - a time for self-reflection and discipline. Is it really offensive if I choose to observe bits and pieces of your religion? I was raised in a religion that views all religion as equal, and I was encouraged to learn from and appreciate other religions. This possessiveness over traditions (when many of those traditions themselves are derived from other religions!) astounds me.
And why the @#$ do you care if someone gives up things for lent. Isn't your faith between you and God? Do you think God is going to be angry if non-Christians observe lent? It's like a petulant child getting angry when her little sister wants to watch Sesame Street with her. The petulant child is in no way affected by her little sister peeking at the screen, but throws a fit anyway.
And why the @#$ do you care if someone gives up things for lent. Isn't your faith between you and God? Do you think God is going to be angry if non-Christians observe lent? It's like a petulant child getting angry when her little sister wants to watch Sesame Street with her. The petulant child is in no way affected by her little sister peeking at the screen, but throws a fit anyway.
Anonymous
02/23/2012 08:56
Subject: Athiest giving up things for lent
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And people wonder why atheists are defensive.
Live and let live, folks!
Take some responsibility for your own behavior, for Pete's sake. If you want people to "like" you, stop behaving so badly on the What Are You Giving Up For Lent Thread. Or at least tell your fellow atheists to stop acting like a$$es there.
I'm sick of whiny atheists. A little like Marie Antoinette, you guys want to be obnoxious and feel sorry for yourselves at the same time.
There are plenty of whiny Christians. It is unfair to blame the many for the actions of the few.
Anonymous
02/23/2012 08:54
Subject: Athiest giving up things for lent
As a Christian, Lenten discipline allows me to focus on God and the people I love. What on earth could be wrong with non-Christians participating in that blessing/
Anonymous
02/23/2012 07:46
Subject: Athiest giving up things for lent
ATHEIST: You people of faith s*ck! Wait, you don't like me, boo hoo!
Anonymous
02/23/2012 07:09
Subject: Athiest giving up things for lent
Anonymous wrote:And people wonder why atheists are defensive.
Live and let live, folks!
Take some responsibility for your own behavior, for Pete's sake. If you want people to "like" you, stop behaving so badly on the What Are You Giving Up For Lent Thread. Or at least tell your fellow atheists to stop acting like a$$es there.
I'm sick of whiny atheists. A little like Marie Antoinette, you guys want to be obnoxious and feel sorry for yourselves at the same time.
Anonymous
02/23/2012 06:56
Subject: Athiest giving up things for lent
And people wonder why atheists are defensive.
Live and let live, folks!
Live and let live, folks!
Anonymous
02/22/2012 23:43
Subject: Re:Athiest giving up things for lent
Anonymous wrote:Why is it your values? Only a Christian can be good?
Noting I said indicated that. Clearly goodness is not exclusive to one group. And I think I made it clear that a period of atonement is a value shared by many groups.