Anonymous
Post 04/26/2012 16:00     Subject: So, where do kids with this profile end up?
You're trying too hard pp to make it seem like it's harder to get into St. Marys than it is. It is not U of Chicago or those others you cited. Take a chill pill.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2012 16:00     Subject: So, where do kids with this profile end up?
Anonymous wrote:Look at the link I provided from US News above pp...they need boys at St. Marys!


They may need boys but the Common Data set suggests that they admit more girls. Of 910 male applicants 551 were accepted. Of 1488 female applicants, 921 were admitted. Not trying to be oppositional just data-driven.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2012 15:52     Subject: So, where do kids with this profile end up?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ummm pp -- you need to look at the stats for boys in particular. St. Marys (MD) really NEEDS boys -- they have 41% boys compared to 59% girls. 65% of applicants are admitted. I think OP's kid can get in based upon the data she's presented thus far. Don't scare people away needlessly.


Where did you get the stats by gender? I got my data from the Common Data Set and SAT scores aren't broken down by gender so I can't speak to any differential.

Not trying to scare anybody but there is an increasing number of kids who don't get in anywhere first time round because, they, their parents or perhaps even their high school college counselors don't use the available data. I'm not saying that those kids don't eventually go to college, but many kids have to take a gap year or go to a place like Montgomery College and then re-apply to colleges that are a better match for their credentials. And I'm not saying that there aren't colleges for everyone but one has to be realistic and know their kid and know the stats. Colleges like St. Mary's seem to be taking above average kids now. Our kids are facing new global realities when it comes to getting into school. Read some of the threads on College Confidential - it's eye opening.


This was my post. One more point. Statistics can be misleading. Many colleges have self-selecting applicant pools so high admittance percentages don't reflect the rigor of the college or university. Think Smith or Reed or The University of Chicago.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2012 15:52     Subject: So, where do kids with this profile end up?
Look at the link I provided from US News above pp...they need boys at St. Marys!
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2012 15:43     Subject: So, where do kids with this profile end up?
Anonymous wrote:Ummm pp -- you need to look at the stats for boys in particular. St. Marys (MD) really NEEDS boys -- they have 41% boys compared to 59% girls. 65% of applicants are admitted. I think OP's kid can get in based upon the data she's presented thus far. Don't scare people away needlessly.


Where did you get the stats by gender? I got my data from the Common Data Set and SAT scores aren't broken down by gender so I can't speak to any differential.

Not trying to scare anybody but there is an increasing number of kids who don't get in anywhere first time round because, they, their parents or perhaps even their high school college counselors don't use the available data. I'm not saying that those kids don't eventually go to college, but many kids have to take a gap year or go to a place like Montgomery College and then re-apply to colleges that are a better match for their credentials. And I'm not saying that there aren't colleges for everyone but one has to be realistic and know their kid and know the stats. Colleges like St. Mary's seem to be taking above average kids now. Our kids are facing new global realities when it comes to getting into school. Read some of the threads on College Confidential - it's eye opening.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2012 15:27     Subject: So, where do kids with this profile end up?
Sounds like me. I went to a State School and graduated in four years. I got accepted to dental school. I am a dentist.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2012 15:19     Subject: So, where do kids with this profile end up?
I forgot the link to US News info on St. Marys (MD):
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/st.-marys-college-2095
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2012 15:19     Subject: So, where do kids with this profile end up?
Ummm pp -- you need to look at the stats for boys in particular. St. Marys (MD) really NEEDS boys -- they have 41% boys compared to 59% girls. 65% of applicants are admitted. I think OP's kid can get in based upon the data she's presented thus far. Don't scare people away needlessly.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2012 15:12     Subject: So, where do kids with this profile end up?
Anonymous wrote:For an average student, I wouldn't pay the big bucks for him to go anywhere out of state. Let him perform well in his first year at a state school and if he can improve -- great...he might want to transfer. Otherwise, UMBC or St. Marys College (public in MD) or Montgomery College are his likely tickets.


Unless you have a "hook" or are a recruited athlete or apply early decision/action, you usually need to have scores somewhere near the 75 %ile to gain admission. The 75 %ile for the class entering St. Mary's during the fall of 2011 had the following scores - 680 Critical Reading, 650 Math and 670 Writing.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2012 14:57     Subject: So, where do kids with this profile end up?
For an average student, I wouldn't pay the big bucks for him to go anywhere out of state. Let him perform well in his first year at a state school and if he can improve -- great...he might want to transfer. Otherwise, UMBC or St. Marys College (public in MD) or Montgomery College are his likely tickets.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2012 14:27     Subject: Re:So, where do kids with this profile end up?
High Point University, University of Alabama, Drexel, University of Vermont maybe?

Make sure you talk to someone who has recently gone through the process. Those reaching back to information from when they went to college will mislead you since so much has changed in recent years.
Anonymous
Post 04/09/2012 18:31     Subject: So, where do kids with this profile end up?
Boys, especially, change a lot from 9th to 12th grade, so he may yet discover a passion. Might he be interested in a summer internship, work as a camp counselor, or perhaps some outdoor volunteering, e.g. free programs, such as http://www.thesca.org/serve/national-crews
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2012 15:45     Subject: So, where do kids with this profile end up?
What about Boulder? My brother went there, similar profile to your son.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2012 00:49     Subject: So, where do kids with this profile end up?
Anonymous wrote:OP, where did you and your husband go to school? What were those school's competitors? That's where I would anticipate your son would end up. Be sure to consider those schools as 'ballpark.'


OP here.

DH and I met at school, so there's only 1. I think the school we attended would be out of reach for our son academically. It's also a relatively large school, and I think he'd prefer a smaller setting.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2012 23:38     Subject: So, where do kids with this profile end up?
OP, where did you and your husband go to school? What were those school's competitors? That's where I would anticipate your son would end up. Be sure to consider those schools as 'ballpark.'