Your refusal to believe a statement doesn't invalidate it, it just makes you seem ignorant.

Obesity is also related to social class and lifestyle, and again - rich women and health conscious women breastfeed. When the variance associated with that is removed- there is no difference.

Bf ing moms also cosleep, don't smoke, and do other things that reduce the risk of SIDS - again, no relationship is consistent.

Also - correlation ain't causation.

Anonymous wrote:I love how this topic brings out the defensive posters who are insecure about formula feeding their babies and have to resort to citing "studies" and antecdotes that supposedly show that formula is just as good as breastmilk. You cannot tell me that a product made in a factory to simulate breastmilk is better than the real thing. It's not, despite what the formula companies tell you. And this from a mom who has done both BFing and FFing.

ITA. And I also supplemented with formula and eventually fed with formula only at the end of the first year, and plan to do so even earlier with this baby, but it's ridiculous some of these posts.

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Anonymous wrote:Because it is crazy propaganda. Both my kids were breastfed for a year, and both have asthma, food allergies, had so many ear infections they had to get tubes before the age of 1, RSV, etc.

It is complete and utter HOGWASH that it makes children healthier.

But they still might be better off than if they had been formular fed - at least according to the studies.

I don't dispute the benefits of breastfeeding - but I don't think there are any studies that focus on this. How could they? What would one use as a control? The control woudl have to be the same kid, both FF and BF, which clearly is impossible. If a kid is BF, there's no way to tell how much more sick (if at all) he would have been if he'd been FF. Conversely, is a kid is FF, there's no way top tell how much less sick he'd have been (if at all) if he'd been BF. Short version - the studies HAVE to look at how breastfed kids fare vs FF kids, because no other study is possible.

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I love how this topic brings out the defensive posters who are insecure about formula feeding their babies and have to resort to citing "studies" and antecdotes that supposedly show that formula is just as good as breastmilk. You cannot tell me that a product made in a factory to simulate breastmilk is better than the real thing. It's not, despite what the formula companies tell you. And this from a mom who has done both BFing and FFing.

Hey genius: I posted the article from The Atlantic. I EBF and my DS has never had a drop of formula.

Plus, formula companies don't tell you this. At least all the formula-sponsored literature I received from my doctor said "Breast milk is best, but if you need or want to use formula, ours is the closest to breastmilk."

I love how this topic brings out all the people who hated BFing but did it anyway because they felt they should, and thus resent anyone or anything that might suggest their sacrifice wasn't such a big deal.

I love how this topic brings out the defensive posters who are insecure about formula feeding their babies and have to resort to citing "studies" and antecdotes that supposedly show that formula is just as good as breastmilk. You cannot tell me that a product made in a factory to simulate breastmilk is better than the real thing. It's not, despite what the formula companies tell you. And this from a mom who has done both BFing and FFing.

Hey genius: I posted the article from The Atlantic. I EBF and my DS has never had a drop of formula.

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Anonymous wrote:Have you read the studies about all the toxins in breastmilk? It's pretty scary. I BF both my kids, so i'm not anti-BF, i'm just saying that the toxins in our bodies ultimately wind up in our breastmilk, so it's not a given that BM is that much better than formula. My kids have food allergies galore.

?? This is such a weird statement. Our babies are already exposed to all the toxins in our bodies because they come from our bodies.

yes there are toxins in baby's bodies when they are born b/c of the toxins in our bodies. that is true. Toxins are everywhere. We have poisoned our own world. it's sad and no way to escape.

Anonymous wrote:Have you read the studies about all the toxins in breastmilk? It's pretty scary. I BF both my kids, so i'm not anti-BF, i'm just saying that the toxins in our bodies ultimately wind up in our breastmilk, so it's not a given that BM is that much better than formula. My kids have food allergies galore.

?? This is such a weird statement. Our babies are already exposed to all the toxins in our bodies because they come from our bodies.

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Anonymous wrote:OP - breastfeeding is not a magic bullet; it's not going to make your kid invincible. But there are numerous studies that it does provide your LO advantages over children who are formula fed, one advantage being a stronger immune system. Thanks to your breast milk your LO is able to gain your immunities, but it's probable that YOU haven't been exposed to all of the bugs and viruses that are circulating in daycare.

I thought the most recent studies said it does not provide advantages over other children who were FF (I.e., your BF kid would not be heathier then my FF kid) but your BF kid is healthier then if (s)he was FF.

Breastfed kids are less likely to die from SIDS, are less likely to be obese, and gain the benefit in early months of their mother's immunity. I consider those significant advantages.

WTF is the correlation there???

An annotated bibliography about the connection between breastfeeding and lower risk of SIDS. This is not new news, by the way.

http://www.sidscenter.org/TopicalBib/Breastfeeding.html

I love how this topic brings out the defensive posters who are insecure about formula feeding their babies and have to resort to citing "studies" and antecdotes that supposedly show that formula is just as good as breastmilk. You cannot tell me that a product made in a factory to simulate breastmilk is better than the real thing. It's not, despite what the formula companies tell you. And this from a mom who has done both BFing and FFing.

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Anonymous wrote:OP - breastfeeding is not a magic bullet; it's not going to make your kid invincible. But there are numerous studies that it does provide your LO advantages over children who are formula fed, one advantage being a stronger immune system. Thanks to your breast milk your LO is able to gain your immunities, but it's probable that YOU haven't been exposed to all of the bugs and viruses that are circulating in daycare.

I thought the most recent studies said it does not provide advantages over other children who were FF (I.e., your BF kid would not be heathier then my FF kid) but your BF kid is healthier then if (s)he was FF.

Breastfed kids are less likely to die from SIDS, are less likely to be obese, and gain the benefit in early months of their mother's immunity. I consider those significant advantages.

WTF is the correlation there???

Anonymous wrote:You guys are so wrapped up in ridiculous false studies that you've forgotten about common sense. You are all being scammed by an industry that LOVES to manipulate data.

http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pmed.0020124

Interesting article PP. You're so smart. And where exactly is the evidence to the breastfeeding "industry" suggesting that studies showing breastfed babies are ultimately at an advantage are manipulated?