Anonymous wrote:Yes, you can fly with a 2wk old, per airline regulations, and younger with a Drs note.

Um, yeah...immigration won't accept a doctor's note. My daughter was also born in the UK. You will also need to register the birth of an American abroad at the Embassy. Took six weeks to get a passport for my LO.

We were advised not to fly with a baby until after the first round of vaccinations at 2 months. Even after that, it's risky and you need to be careful (we first flew when he was 5 months). I would seriously consider the health risks of flying with such a young child--there are few situations I can imagine where I would have been willing to take that risk.

We did circumcise, but I also did a fair amount of research beforehand and agree that the risk of infection is not considered higher with an uncirced penis. You need to know how to care for it but it's not that complicated.

When people grow up no ones complains of be circumcised, its always the other way around.

What are the benefits of circumcision?

There is some evidence that circumcision has health benefits, including:
A decreased risk of urinary tract infections.
A reduced risk of sexually transmitted diseases in men.
Protection against penile cancer and a reduced risk of cervical cancer in female sex partners.
Prevention of balanitis (inflammation of the glans) and balanoposthitis (inflammation of the glans and foreskin).
Prevention of phimosis (the inability to retract the foreskin) and paraphimosis (the inability to return the foreskin to its original location).

Circumcision also makes it easier to keep the end of the penis clean.

http://www.webmd.com/sexual-conditions/guide/circumcision

Anonymous wrote:Wanting to cut your son's penis so he "matches" is one of the lamest, most uneducated reasons to do a circ. Seriously?! Your son will not grow up thinking he must have a similar penis to his father or brother - in fact, it won't be very long before he (like most of us) is thoroughly repulsed by the idea of his fathers penis. I wonder how often your husband contemplates his parents and siblings genitals and just basks in the glory that they are so alike.

And, you are seriously going to drag a newborn around the world just to have him cut? Get a grip. Why not ask the pediatrician in the country you are living how they feel about your plans? No matter what, your son can get circed at any age should he need or want it -- and frankly, going under general when he is over a year is the more humane way to do it despite the slightly increased risk from the anesthesia.

Please confine your views about how genitalia should look to the people of your own family, thank you very much.

Anonymous wrote:the NHS won't circ, they don't consider it ethical without medical necessity.

Because it isn't ethical.

Anonymous wrote:Doesn't it seem a little strange that the OP cannot find a circumcision in the country where they reside? Certainly, there are Jews and Muslims there who seek circumcisions locally.

This thread seems like a put-on. Doesn't it seem convenient that it is a procedure that evokes strong emotional reactions, which is also "impossible" to find locally?

She mentioned being in the UK. I previously lived in the UK and suspect what she is stating is completely accurate -- the NHS won't circ, they don't consider it ethical without medical necessity.

Most men of that generation will have a different experience from boys these days for two reasons:
1) many physicians at the time were recommending forced retraction and cleaning, which is incredibly damaging
2) circ rates in general -- about 50/50 now, where boys 30/40 years ago in the US were very much a minority if not circed.

My foreign-born spouse feels ill at the very thought. Growing up in the culture of the USA as the minority is a different experience than in a 50/50 society like we have now.

Well, I didn't retract it---but he sure did. His penis. I guess he knows more about it than I do. For that matter, my dad was circed as an adult and told me to have my son done as an infant.

Guys just want something to bitch about.

Doesn't it seem a little strange that the OP cannot find a circumcision in the country where they reside? Certainly, there are Jews and Muslims there who seek circumcisions locally.

This thread seems like a put-on. Doesn't it seem convenient that it is a procedure that evokes strong emotional reactions, which is also "impossible" to find locally?

Anonymous wrote:Ummm. That piece of skin can't be as spiffy as you think it is if my uncirced son went ahead and had his baby boy circed as a newborn. He said it wasn't worth the trouble. I have no idea if he's been cut as an adult---haven't seen that thing in years!

That said i would look locally if possible, flying with an infant is a pain in the rear.

Your son is very much a minority. Most intact men have zero issues, and the vast majority of "trouble" is caused by forced retraction in infancy (you aren't supposed to pull it back EVER as a baby - the only person to ever retract it should be the child).

Ummm. That piece of skin can't be as spiffy as you think it is if my uncirced son went ahead and had his baby boy circed as a newborn. He said it wasn't worth the trouble. I have no idea if he's been cut as an adult---haven't seen that thing in years!

That said i would look locally if possible, flying with an infant is a pain in the rear.

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hhgust wrote:YOU PEOPLE ARE SO MEAN. There is no reason to be disrespectful and rude to someone just because they have their own opinions and wishes about circumcision. What is it about this website that makes people think they can be so snarky and rude? I am incredibly offended just reading this. How about giving the original poster a little common-sense advice and letting her make up her own mind instead of brow-beating?

+1

You know what's MEAN? Cutting body parts off of babies. Now THAT'S mean.

Do you really think this kind of patronizing nastiness is the best way to change the OP's mind?

Hi there op. Hope this helps.
1. Acog and the aapeds states that circs
Are now considered to be cosmetic procedures an religious procedures only. They use to think:
-decrease the risk of HIV: study was in Uganda with 50 or so people and is not a credible study
-decrease the risk of penile cancer; buy you would have to circ greater them 3000 boys to decrease the number by one
-cleaner: little evidence to support this. As long as child learns to retract foreskin and clean the glans and penile shaft thouroughly they should be fine
-less painful as a newborn. Not true, you can use lidocaine or sweeties but babies feel pain proven by apnea, increase in heart rate obviously crying. Jacho is actually now making a move to get 100% compliance with hospital circs and use of some sort of anesthesia ie local block.

Most pediatricians don't recommend flying until the newborn is at least 4 weeks old others after first set of vaccines at 8 weeks. If you are going to fly, don't let anyone but you hold or touch the baby, bring lots of sanitizer, consider buying the baby a seat and not just putting on your lap or in the bassinet. Then you can travel with the baby in the infant carrier with proper head support in case of turbulence etc.

As far as dog ears these usually happen when a mogan clamp is used and they totally go away. Ask if your provider can use a gomko clamp instead if this is a big concern.


Instead of the us what about a neighboring closer country.

Lastly, remember you may come to the states and get a very experienced surgeon, mohel, or ob and
You may still get a complication.

Wow. Mississippi can be really nice. You all are crazy!