Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So dumb. It is not that Algebra 1 in 6th grade will be hard. It is that Calculus in 10th grade will be hard. Or Algebra 2 in 8th. Or Precalc in 9th.
Algebra II is a beast. Ugh. These poor kids.
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I took honors Algebra II at age 13/14 after years of easily doing well in math and doing very well in honors Algebra I the year prior. I wasn't ready for it. The concepts were somehow easy to me going back to them two years later after a year of Geometry. I think I just wasn't ready. Algebra II is a big jump, Algebra I is pretty straightforward though.
Have you looked at the current algebra 2 standards? They aren't nearly what they were 20-30 years ago. No matrices, no conic sections, nothing wildly beyond algebra 1. It's transformations of parent functions and solving quadratics/radical/rational functions. That's it. It is also extremely straight forward.
My current algebra 2 students' grades almost universally mirror their algebra 1 grades. A few move up/down a letter, but for the most part if they got As in algebra 1 honors they end up with As in algebra 2 honors as well.[/
Are you teaching 8th graders? Or HS?
2025-2026 is the first year of the pilot. These kids are not going to be in Algebra 2 until 2027-2028.
It is not just about 6th grade. It is about the next 6 years of math.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So dumb. It is not that Algebra 1 in 6th grade will be hard. It is that Calculus in 10th grade will be hard. Or Algebra 2 in 8th. Or Precalc in 9th.
Algebra II is a beast. Ugh. These poor kids.
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I took honors Algebra II at age 13/14 after years of easily doing well in math and doing very well in honors Algebra I the year prior. I wasn't ready for it. The concepts were somehow easy to me going back to them two years later after a year of Geometry. I think I just wasn't ready. Algebra II is a big jump, Algebra I is pretty straightforward though.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So dumb. It is not that Algebra 1 in 6th grade will be hard. It is that Calculus in 10th grade will be hard. Or Algebra 2 in 8th. Or Precalc in 9th.
Algebra II is a beast. Ugh. These poor kids.
Anonymous wrote:We took Algebra 1 Honors in 6th grade because the teacher is by far the best teacher we encountered in FCPS. We also have a child who graduated HS from FCPS.
There were no bonus points, not one and grading was pretty strict. Too strict I thought.
The teacher told us that she got the course materials from another MS teacher who taught the Algebra 1 honors class for several years. That seems to be the norm.
And we had fantastic experience with Algebra 1 in 6th grade.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:According to the internet, you are ready for Algebra 1 with 238 MAP and Pre-Calculus with 255 MAP.
So I don't see what is crazy about these kids taking Algebra 1 in 6th.
It’s not just about 6th grade A1H, it’s about the high school math sequence this sets them up for. That’s why it’s crazy to us and why we opted out for DC.
My 5th grade DC pass advanced the SOL and scored 253 on MAP. Per your google search, she is “ready,” and I’m sure she likely could handle the watered down 6th grade A1H curriculum, with extra credit built in to inflate the grade. However, we prefer the true honors curriculum, with extensions, taught at our middle school. We also don’t want her skipping 2 years of math that we’ll have to teach to catch her up. We want DC to have a strong foundation for higher level coursework in high school and beyond.
Further to this point, we don’t want DC on a high school sequence that is far more accelerated and difficult than necessary for any top tier school admissions. High school is hard enough juggling all the other APs, and she will still have advanced rigor with A1H in 7th. I know kids on the super advanced sequence, who qualified under the former stringent standards, and were truly were advanced and prepared to accelerate at that level. And yet, many of those kids are struggling now in high school, when grades matter. Under the new policy, anyone in 5th AAP can super accelerate w/o any guidelines for preparedness, and DC knows kids who struggled all year in math class enrolling next year. Those kids are going to have a very tough time in HS. Some students need this level of acceleration, most do not.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am glad someone started this thread. I am at one of the high performing schools, and nearly everyone from AAP is doing A1H in 6th. There are some very active posters on similar threads trying to convince people not to accelerate and making it seem like lots are opting out. I just have not seen that to be the case. I assume the detractors are trying to assuage their guilt about not accelerating and convince othered to join them. They don’t want other kids to surpass their own.
There are a lot of parents opting out at haycock with high performing math-inclined kids, there are also a lot opting in. I’m not worried about other kids “surpassing” my child by opting out, and I feel very comfortable with the accelerated HS sequence that 7th grade A1H sets them up for. I don’t care to convince anyone else. I think the point is to feel confident doing whatever you think is best for your child bc they won’t be alone either way.
Anonymous wrote:I am glad someone started this thread. I am at one of the high performing schools, and nearly everyone from AAP is doing A1H in 6th. There are some very active posters on similar threads trying to convince people not to accelerate and making it seem like lots are opting out. I just have not seen that to be the case. I assume the detractors are trying to assuage their guilt about not accelerating and convince othered to join them. They don’t want other kids to surpass their own.
Anonymous wrote:According to the internet, you are ready for Algebra 1 with 238 MAP and Pre-Calculus with 255 MAP.
So I don't see what is crazy about these kids taking Algebra 1 in 6th.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can you share which center school you're at? We are at Churchill and this is making me wonder what the % breakdown is there. How did you get that number at your school?
We are a 5th grade AAP family at Churchill too. I am sure some parents selected to do Algebra I next year. However, every parent I spoke directly (10+) says they are not doing Algebra I next year.
On another note, I saw a parent of a 6th grader this week at school and they said their child is repeating Algebra I next year in 7th because their child does not feel ready to go to the next math class. The kid is a good student.