Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Kids don't need to learn how to use AI in elementary or middle school or even most of high school.
Don't give them access to the internet. Have them learn to read and write and do math using pen, paper and calculators in school and MCPS will achieve more than it does now.
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You need to wake up and understand we live in a competitive world, one in which most children will access the internet, learn a ton, and use AI effectively. You cannot live like a digital Amish and then expect to benefit from the fruits of everyone's tech expertise later on in life.
I think for ES/MS AI shouldn't be allowed, but for maybe Jrs/Srs in HS, it makes sense for them to start learning how to use AI effectively.
Agree with a PP, AI is here to stay, and in today's job market, you need to know how to use AI. This was the message that some commencement speakers at colleges tried to explain to graduates (much to their disgust, and those speakers got boo'd. I do think the speakers were tone deaf about it).
It's not just the tech sector that's pushing AI on their employees. It's happening in other industries, too.
My DC is a UMD and had one professor tell them that they can use AI but only for certain parts of the assignment. DC has also used it for other purposes, but they always check the output. UMD has its own AI tool (powered by OpenAI) that students can access. I think colleges are now seeing the writing on the wall and incorporating AI use in its curriculum.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Kids don't need to learn how to use AI in elementary or middle school or even most of high school.
Don't give them access to the internet. Have them learn to read and write and do math using pen, paper and calculators in school and MCPS will achieve more than it does now.
+1
You need to wake up and understand we live in a competitive world, one in which most children will access the internet, learn a ton, and use AI effectively. You cannot live like a digital Amish and then expect to benefit from the fruits of everyone's tech expertise later on in life.
Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, albeit a newer one, I was under the impression that when students accessed tests like MAP-M in NWEA or whatever it is, it disables the rest of their applications. Like you can't even access google or AI.
Anonymous wrote:My kid just told me that another kid was bragging today that he cheated on MAP M test using AI on a test. He got a really high score (290) being 2 grades below (8th rader tsking 7th grade math.) I feel so annoyed when my hard working son who does not use AI will be bypassed by those that cheat.
Anonymous wrote:Reading this thread makes me think back to 2006, when cell phone became more prolific. Many teachers said they weren’t good for education. But there were a group of people who said that this is where things are going. Things got relax, cell phones became conduits for social media, and kids became accustomed to using their phones whenever they were done with work, or even when they were supposed to be working. Now, people have figured out that phones are not good, and we’re trying to put the genie back in the bottle with initiatives that no one is willing to enforce other than demanding teachers should shoulder all the responsibility.
AI will go the same direction. We’ll incorporate and accept it even though teachers are saying it’s not good for education. The technology will morph into an all consuming product that is designed to keep people engaged to expose them to advertising. Some study will link declining educational performance to AI use. A discussion of an AI ban will begin with “tough” policies. But, a new technology (I’m thinking neurological implants) will emerge, and we’ll start the cycle again.
Anonymous wrote:My high schooler essentially uses it as an editor and it is fantastic. They also use it to study (guides, quizzes, etc...). It's almost like a peer tutor or teacher (that must be vetted). I myself put a lot of my writing through as an editor. And I've asked for citations. And I've used it to get email tone right.
I'm also a professor. I see good uses and bad. From students and colleagues. Including one who used it to write a non-sensical annual review that I have to ask them to rewrite.
I have no issue with this policy whatsoever. How do they implement and enforce it consistently? That's a challenge.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My kid just told me that another kid was bragging today that he cheated on MAP M test using AI on a test. He got a really high score (290) being 2 grades below (8th rader tsking 7th grade math.) I feel so annoyed when my hard working son who does not use AI will be bypassed by those that cheat.
Your child should consider tell the teacher or principal to at least advocate for banning AI for future tests. I think under no circumstances that AI should be used for a test.
Anonymous wrote:My kid just told me that another kid was bragging today that he cheated on MAP M test using AI on a test. He got a really high score (290) being 2 grades below (8th rader tsking 7th grade math.) I feel so annoyed when my hard working son who does not use AI will be bypassed by those that cheat.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:AI is getting used whether you want it or not.
The wisest solution is to study and regulate its use, instead of banning it, and teach students HOW TO QUERY, which is the one trait that will distinguish an intelligent human user from an unintelligent human user. I can tell you don't use it much, OP.
Why? Because AI is here to stay at all degrees of school and work. If you want to ban AI, you are forcing students to become less competitive compared to peers.
All schools and workplaces should be developing their own regulations.
💯 I’m in graduate school right now and the use of AI is allowed. But you have to understand how it’s allowed. I think a scale could be a good way to keicodd guidance to both educators and students.
Ironically I’m currently in an ethics course and the professor had to send out a class-wide email reminded students of the proper use of AI. Adults are not using it wisely either.
It’s here. It’s not going anywhere. And we need to standardize the use to help students (and adults) learn how to utilize it as a tool. Just like calculators were a worry in math - obviously on a much grander scale- this is a tool we need to learn how to incorporate to help ensure our student success in this connected, global world.
Plus, kids are so clever, we need to also understand this tech to keep on top of them.
It's "not going anywhere" because people like you are spineless and greedy and don't question the massive social and political implications of blindly running headfirst towards a product that is specifically designed to eliminate human endeavor for the profit of a few wealthy billionaires and their associates. You are just trying to benefit yourself at the expense of those around you. Don't try to act like WE are the crazy ones for questioning the whole plan.