Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Finding out from the teacher that my 11yo 5th grade child spent the entire year eating lunch alone is tearing at my heart. He would always say lunch was good and never mention that he was alone at the table he sat at. When I found out and asked him, he says that he was fine and didn’t need company. I wish someone would have encouraged other kids to sit with him.
I worry that I may be feeling this more deeply as I was a severely depressed teenager who made multiple attempts so this worries me that he could end up like I did. I also do not want to place unrelated pressure onto him as I was also in a different setting, neighborhood, and life circumstance. So I’m torn on how to approach this but he will also be going to middle school next year.
If you sat alone at lunch in school, did you feel like it caused you sadness or were you truly content?
So sad that the student didn't have one trusted adult to turn to to see if they could assist. But sadly, it's the reality that students don't have a trusted adult at school and in many students' experiences, they have found that their counselor will gossip a student's situation to another student instead of actually trying to help the student. And that one experience with a counselor affects their school journey for the remaining school years. Sad.
Assist how? I was one of those kids and hid in the bathroom and library. Having an adult notice this and force me to “make friends” would have made me dread lunch period even more.
If a counselor does not notice this and does not know how to assist, they should not be a counselor or not a school counselor. - Not OP
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Finding out from the teacher that my 11yo 5th grade child spent the entire year eating lunch alone is tearing at my heart. He would always say lunch was good and never mention that he was alone at the table he sat at. When I found out and asked him, he says that he was fine and didn’t need company. I wish someone would have encouraged other kids to sit with him.
I worry that I may be feeling this more deeply as I was a severely depressed teenager who made multiple attempts so this worries me that he could end up like I did. I also do not want to place unrelated pressure onto him as I was also in a different setting, neighborhood, and life circumstance. So I’m torn on how to approach this but he will also be going to middle school next year.
If you sat alone at lunch in school, did you feel like it caused you sadness or were you truly content?
So sad that the student didn't have one trusted adult to turn to to see if they could assist. But sadly, it's the reality that students don't have a trusted adult at school and in many students' experiences, they have found that their counselor will gossip a student's situation to another student instead of actually trying to help the student. And that one experience with a counselor affects their school journey for the remaining school years. Sad.
Assist how? I was one of those kids and hid in the bathroom and library. Having an adult notice this and force me to “make friends” would have made me dread lunch period even more.
Anonymous wrote:I really struggled with understanding social cues -- didn't detect sarcasm, couldn't tell when a question was rhetorical. in some ways being alone was easier. watching these unscripted conversations 'in the wild' and trying to participate during lunch was really hard. Like speaking a foreign language hard. I too eventually found my people -- fellow nerds and academics who cut you a little slack when you answer the rhetorical question or whatever. The rare times I did sit with others I was extremely exhausted afterwards.
Anonymous wrote:I have many terrible lunch memories. Both of these are from middle school:
1. Sitting at a table all year with girls who didn't like me and openly discussed plans and parties I wasn't invited to.
2. Having no one to sit with and being in a panic to get one of limited library passes to not have to stay in the lunch room during lunch.
I am fully functional and thriving adult with a lot of friends and a great social life.
No, it is not a great feeling. But I also consider these things somewhat formative in a positive way. It really helps anyone develop empathy and an awareness of others. To this day, I'm the type of person who is always aware of someone standing just outside the circle or standing alone and will be friendly and inclusive.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Finding out from the teacher that my 11yo 5th grade child spent the entire year eating lunch alone is tearing at my heart. He would always say lunch was good and never mention that he was alone at the table he sat at. When I found out and asked him, he says that he was fine and didn’t need company. I wish someone would have encouraged other kids to sit with him.
I worry that I may be feeling this more deeply as I was a severely depressed teenager who made multiple attempts so this worries me that he could end up like I did. I also do not want to place unrelated pressure onto him as I was also in a different setting, neighborhood, and life circumstance. So I’m torn on how to approach this but he will also be going to middle school next year.
If you sat alone at lunch in school, did you feel like it caused you sadness or were you truly content?
So sad that the student didn't have one trusted adult to turn to to see if they could assist. But sadly, it's the reality that students don't have a trusted adult at school and in many students' experiences, they have found that their counselor will gossip a student's situation to another student instead of actually trying to help the student. And that one experience with a counselor affects their school journey for the remaining school years. Sad.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I really don't understand how a teacher or lunch aid wouldn't try to address this somehow. Do they just stay out of it? I know forcing people to sit with other people or teachers makes it worse... but really I would intervene.
In what way would you intervene? I was someone with no friends and a table of girls were forced to let me sit at their table in middle school. They were the only table that didn't emphatically say no. They ignored me. They were all close, had inside jokes, sleepovers and hung out and I just ... sat there. Eventually after two years I couldn't take it and would sneak out of the lunchroom to hide out in the library. What would you have done to intervene?
+1
I think it's great to have lunch bunches or social groups as long as students are free to opt into them. Another PP posted about a special lounge. Intervening and forcing it is something else.
Anonymous wrote:Finding out from the teacher that my 11yo 5th grade child spent the entire year eating lunch alone is tearing at my heart. He would always say lunch was good and never mention that he was alone at the table he sat at. When I found out and asked him, he says that he was fine and didn’t need company. I wish someone would have encouraged other kids to sit with him.
I worry that I may be feeling this more deeply as I was a severely depressed teenager who made multiple attempts so this worries me that he could end up like I did. I also do not want to place unrelated pressure onto him as I was also in a different setting, neighborhood, and life circumstance. So I’m torn on how to approach this but he will also be going to middle school next year.
If you sat alone at lunch in school, did you feel like it caused you sadness or were you truly content?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Finding out from the teacher that my 11yo 5th grade child spent the entire year eating lunch alone is tearing at my heart. He would always say lunch was good and never mention that he was alone at the table he sat at. When I found out and asked him, he says that he was fine and didn’t need company. I wish someone would have encouraged other kids to sit with him.
I worry that I may be feeling this more deeply as I was a severely depressed teenager who made multiple attempts so this worries me that he could end up like I did. I also do not want to place unrelated pressure onto him as I was also in a different setting, neighborhood, and life circumstance. So I’m torn on how to approach this but he will also be going to middle school next year.
If you sat alone at lunch in school, did you feel like it caused you sadness or were you truly content?
The teacher should have let you know sooner so you as the parent could assess whether it was normal or okay. Does he have friends? If not try this summer to help him find his people which normally happens over shared interests - whether it is sports, arts, religion, etc...
Sorry you are sad. It sucks but he is okay now and from here on out just focus on next steps. Good luck.
Anonymous wrote:I have many terrible lunch memories. Both of these are from middle school:
1. Sitting at a table all year with girls who didn't like me and openly discussed plans and parties I wasn't invited to.
2. Having no one to sit with and being in a panic to get one of limited library passes to not have to stay in the lunch room during lunch.
I am fully functional and thriving adult with a lot of friends and a great social life.
No, it is not a great feeling. But I also consider these things somewhat formative in a positive way. It really helps anyone develop empathy and an awareness of others. To this day, I'm the type of person who is always aware of someone standing just outside the circle or standing alone and will be friendly and inclusive.
Anonymous wrote:Finding out from the teacher that my 11yo 5th grade child spent the entire year eating lunch alone is tearing at my heart. He would always say lunch was good and never mention that he was alone at the table he sat at. When I found out and asked him, he says that he was fine and didn’t need company. I wish someone would have encouraged other kids to sit with him.
I worry that I may be feeling this more deeply as I was a severely depressed teenager who made multiple attempts so this worries me that he could end up like I did. I also do not want to place unrelated pressure onto him as I was also in a different setting, neighborhood, and life circumstance. So I’m torn on how to approach this but he will also be going to middle school next year.
If you sat alone at lunch in school, did you feel like it caused you sadness or were you truly content?