Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All the kids I know who got into an Ivy league b/c of high grades along with a top sport were financially supported by their parents (i.e., travel soccer, travel baseball, swimming, tennis, golf, volley ball). None of that would have been possible without tons of extra money and lots of hours spent by parents driving kids and getting them extra lessons with coaches, etc.

Getting a 1500 is a lot easier. The tests have become much easier, you can prep for it, and even w/o parents shelling out for a prep class there are plenty of free online resources. Back when I took the SATs, I practiced with the 10 actual SATs the week before, and got 98% (one and done).

No, getting a 1500 is not much easier.

It is definitely easier than getting accepted into an Ivy with a sport are you high?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Harder would be getting a full ride athletic scholarship D1

Harder than getting a D1 sports scholarship is getting accepted to a top music or theater conservatory program.

I agree scholarships for music or theater are really hard to come by. Most of my high school friends were non-athletes and they were by large talented in these endeavors.

I did meet both criteria set forth by the OP. I was All-State on track as a 9th grader (a hefty 105 pounds) so making varsity was not difficult. I ended up winning a national prep championship in my senior year. Notwithstanding, obtaining high grades and a SAT score was harder for me than athletics. Statistically this doesn’t make sense but I came from a single mother home with dysfunction and addiction. My high school years were by and large fun, so I wasn’t a victim in any sense. But I was immature with lousy organization and study habits. My high school was excellent with teachers who went the extra mile, and they weren’t afraid of correcting me. I needed it. I won a race in my AP English teacher’s neighborhood. I was spiked and bleeding a bit, and I walked over to his house, bleeding a bit on his kitchen floor, as he spent an hour discussing college and the need to rid of the “wing it” attitude. He knew zero about sports but cared about me. Who gets this in this life?

I was recruited by major sports schools - the usual suspects - but the decision came down to which school could get me into small classes as soon as possible. Just learning to obtain competitive study habits without the favoritism that obtains for athletes (it is real) was an enormous struggle. I used to think it was absurd to have the school pay for all my education because I ran track, but I needed it. And the decision to invest in a marginal sport like track was a risky one too. It all worked out well. Luck, and more luck, really.

It depends on the sport and school.

Anonymous wrote:What I really don't understand is you walk into the high schools today and the good athletes are prominently displayed in a Hall of Fame on the wall outside the gym or whatever. Why aren't the good students displayed somewhere? Why isn't the picture of 1998's valedictorian up on the wall like the kid who made all-state in track or football?

I ask the same question all the time, when my brainy kid brings home his standardized testing showing 99th percentile across the board every time and he asks me, how come they're instructed to keep their test scores a secret from other students and not to discuss them or brag about them, but there is a giant sign outside the gym that kids can sign their name on if they climb the rope to the top? And the person with the most tallys by their name gets a prize at the end of the month?

Anonymous wrote:All the kids I know who got into an Ivy league b/c of high grades along with a top sport were financially supported by their parents (i.e., travel soccer, travel baseball, swimming, tennis, golf, volley ball). None of that would have been possible without tons of extra money and lots of hours spent by parents driving kids and getting them extra lessons with coaches, etc.

Getting a 1500 is a lot easier. The tests have become much easier, you can prep for it, and even w/o parents shelling out for a prep class there are plenty of free online resources. Back when I took the SATs, I practiced with the 10 actual SATs the week before, and got 98% (one and done).

No, getting a 1500 is not much easier.

All the kids I know who got into an Ivy league b/c of high grades along with a top sport were financially supported by their parents (i.e., travel soccer, travel baseball, swimming, tennis, golf, volley ball). None of that would have been possible without tons of extra money and lots of hours spent by parents driving kids and getting them extra lessons with coaches, etc.

Getting a 1500 is a lot easier. The tests have become much easier, you can prep for it, and even w/o parents shelling out for a prep class there are plenty of free online resources. Back when I took the SATs, I practiced with the 10 actual SATs the week before, and got 98% (one and done).

You have posted 20 times in 10 minutes. Relax your nerd will get into UMD

Anonymous wrote:Langley does not have 100+ students with a 1500+ on the SAT

And it has many more than 100 playing on a varsity sports team.

Langley does not have 100+ students with a 1500+ on the SAT

Anonymous wrote:At Langley HS, there are less than 15 spots for the varsity tennis team. There are six spots for the starters. I am sure you can find more than 100 kids with 1500+ on the SAT at Langley HS.

You can draw the conclusion from the above.

Look at your school's naviance.

This underlined part is not rooted in reality.

Anonymous wrote:Gemini tells me that about 1-2 percent of students get a 1500+ and about 35-40 percent of students play a varsity sport in their senior year.

These numbers aren't perfect and both vary a lot by school, but clearly far more high school students play a sport than get a 1500+.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Obviously different students have different innate talents. And every school is different. But take a public high school with 2000 students. It will typically take more hours and much more discipline to make the varsity basketball team compared to scoring a 1500 on the SAT.

For varsity basketball players that do have a baseline number of functioning brain cells, if they were to put in the same number of hours into studying for the SAT as they do for basketball, they'll get the 1500. I don't think the reverse is true. Some 1500 kid who is 5'4 is still not making the varsity basketball team no matter how hard they work at it.

It's a very apple to oranges comparison. Most students don't have the physical attributes to be a varsity athlete in the major sports. But most athletes will have the capability to score 1500, with time and studying.

You are dreaming bubba if you think an average IQ person can get a 1500

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What I really don't understand is you walk into the high schools today and the good athletes are prominently displayed in a Hall of Fame on the wall outside the gym or whatever. Why aren't the good students displayed somewhere? Why isn't the picture of 1998's valedictorian up on the wall like the kid who made all-state in track or football?

Making a varsity team is way different than being a prominent Hall of Fame figure. Making a varsity team even in basketball isn't that hard. Now being a starter, that is considerably harder. Then doing well and winning championships. I mean that is like being the best in the state. A 1500 on the ACT is not like being the best at anything. It's an individual event that consists mostly of self-absorbed individuals. Even if you were the valedictorian, oh you're better than the half of dozen other kids in the school that care and you have a parent that teaches so you were able to get that extra A that you weren't supposed to get so you edged them out by .01 of a grade point. Whoop-di-doo. Not the same as being a state champion at a sport. At least in terms of scale.

Is the a 15 year old posting?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SAT is a national standard

Varsity sport is a local standard.

It depends on your school.

The preparation for each is completely different, and there are many different possible sports

This. But also, you can prep for the SAT in a matter of weeks. If you are trying to make a really competitive varsity sports team, you probably can't improve your skill level too much in a matter of weeks.

Nope.

You are 25-30 times more likely to make a varsity sport than to earn a 1500+ on the SAT.

Anonymous wrote:Harder would be getting a full ride athletic scholarship D1

Harder than getting a D1 sports scholarship is getting accepted to a top music or theater conservatory program.