Anonymous
Post 05/17/2026 12:15     Subject: SUNY rankings

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have spent my whole life living in NYC or the NJ suburbs of NYC so know the schools well. The rankings above are very accurate.

I just find there to be a certain provincialism and lack of sophistication among many of the SUNYs. I think this is why many kids from New York go out of state, often to state schools that might cost a lot more and not actually be any better. You will get this to some degree at any state school, particularly a larger one, but it just seems more prevalent at SUNYs.

Sorry - hard to explain. But IYKYK.


Very true. It's a class division (with some exceptions). That said, this seems to be true of all non-flagship or non Top 50 public schools and is not unique to SUNYs.


Agreed but at SUNY it is even applicable at the top schools while, like you said, in other states it is only generally at the non-flagships.

There's just a lack of a certain social refinement from SUNY grads. And a lack of awareness that they are lacking that social refinement. They aren't crass or anything like that. Just not people who would hold up well at a black tie event with a bunch of Ivy League types. Which creates a ceiling for them professionally. And don't get me wrong, that ceiling is fairly high. But there is a limit that you don't see from other top publics. I worked at a big bank in NYC. Lots of SUNY grads in mid-office making a very nice living, but very few making the big bucks.


You sound insufferable. This is how I imagine you look: https://d21pu14vkoh3sk.cloudfront.net/uploads/1/1/snooty.jpg
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2026 12:08     Subject: SUNY rankings

SUNY New Paltz the most crunchy and cool
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2026 11:05     Subject: SUNY rankings

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Rochester, so I knew a lot of people who went to Geneseo. I'm trying to think of a comparable school around here.


I’d say Univerwity of Mary Washington is pretty comparable. Public liberal arts college of a similar size.


Good call
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2026 11:01     Subject: SUNY rankings

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Rochester, so I knew a lot of people who went to Geneseo. I'm trying to think of a comparable school around here.


I’d say Univerwity of Mary Washington is pretty comparable. Public liberal arts college of a similar size.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2026 10:31     Subject: SUNY rankings

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
She graduated from Geneseo. What do you expect? A lot of people have grammar issues, so I often see people say things like I live in the UWS.


Is that a grammar issues or local convention issue?

Wherever you live, you don't grow up in an island.

The UWS is a neighborhood, not an island. No one lives “on” the West Village, they live “in” the West Village.

But do you live on upper east side of manhattan or in upper east side of manhattan.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2026 10:23     Subject: SUNY rankings

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have spent my whole life living in NYC or the NJ suburbs of NYC so know the schools well. The rankings above are very accurate.

I just find there to be a certain provincialism and lack of sophistication among many of the SUNYs. I think this is why many kids from New York go out of state, often to state schools that might cost a lot more and not actually be any better. You will get this to some degree at any state school, particularly a larger one, but it just seems more prevalent at SUNYs.

Sorry - hard to explain. But IYKYK.


Very true. It's a class division (with some exceptions). That said, this seems to be true of all non-flagship or non Top 50 public schools and is not unique to SUNYs.


Agreed but at SUNY it is even applicable at the top schools while, like you said, in other states it is only generally at the non-flagships.

There's just a lack of a certain social refinement from SUNY grads. And a lack of awareness that they are lacking that social refinement. They aren't crass or anything like that. Just not people who would hold up well at a black tie event with a bunch of Ivy League types. Which creates a ceiling for them professionally. And don't get me wrong, that ceiling is fairly high. But there is a limit that you don't see from other top publics. I worked at a big bank in NYC. Lots of SUNY grads in mid-office making a very nice living, but very few making the big bucks.


NYC provincialism at its finest!

There are many, many SUNY alumni in the c-suites of Fortune 500 companies.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2026 10:09     Subject: SUNY rankings

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have spent my whole life living in NYC or the NJ suburbs of NYC so know the schools well. The rankings above are very accurate.

I just find there to be a certain provincialism and lack of sophistication among many of the SUNYs. I think this is why many kids from New York go out of state, often to state schools that might cost a lot more and not actually be any better. You will get this to some degree at any state school, particularly a larger one, but it just seems more prevalent at SUNYs.

Sorry - hard to explain. But IYKYK.


Very true. It's a class division (with some exceptions). That said, this seems to be true of all non-flagship or non Top 50 public schools and is not unique to SUNYs.


Agreed but at SUNY it is even applicable at the top schools while, like you said, in other states it is only generally at the non-flagships.

There's just a lack of a certain social refinement from SUNY grads. And a lack of awareness that they are lacking that social refinement. They aren't crass or anything like that. Just not people who would hold up well at a black tie event with a bunch of Ivy League types. Which creates a ceiling for them professionally. And don't get me wrong, that ceiling is fairly high. But there is a limit that you don't see from other top publics. I worked at a big bank in NYC. Lots of SUNY grads in mid-office making a very nice living, but very few making the big bucks.


🙄
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2026 09:06     Subject: SUNY rankings

I grew up in Rochester, so I knew a lot of people who went to Geneseo. I'm trying to think of a comparable school around here. It was a good choice to get away, but not really away. Most people I knew who went there stayed in the region afterwards. I did apply b/c my parents wanted one in-state option. I ended up at a SLAC b/c I wanted to be different. In retrospect, I probably should have chosen UofR, but I needed to physically separate to move into the next phase of life. I didn't see any reason for my kid to apply to SUNY schools as an OOS student.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2026 07:57     Subject: SUNY rankings

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why your in-state wouldn't work for your DC?

It's already very hard to understand why people pay OOS to UM and UVA. Public ivies or whatever, there is no different from your in-state flagship.


Holy cow, tell me you are not from the V without telling me. NOVA resident with a high performing, intellectual and social kid in a public school who will, statistically be waitlisted to all top tier publics in VA. Absurd. But, according to past trends from the school, enter an North East or Southern public or private with enough merit to bring it equal to the in state public. This is why.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2026 07:46     Subject: SUNY rankings

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have spent my whole life living in NYC or the NJ suburbs of NYC so know the schools well. The rankings above are very accurate.

I just find there to be a certain provincialism and lack of sophistication among many of the SUNYs. I think this is why many kids from New York go out of state, often to state schools that might cost a lot more and not actually be any better. You will get this to some degree at any state school, particularly a larger one, but it just seems more prevalent at SUNYs.

Sorry - hard to explain. But IYKYK.


Very true. It's a class division (with some exceptions). That said, this seems to be true of all non-flagship or non Top 50 public schools and is not unique to SUNYs.


Agreed but at SUNY it is even applicable at the top schools while, like you said, in other states it is only generally at the non-flagships.

There's just a lack of a certain social refinement from SUNY grads. And a lack of awareness that they are lacking that social refinement. They aren't crass or anything like that. Just not people who would hold up well at a black tie event with a bunch of Ivy League types. Which creates a ceiling for them professionally. And don't get me wrong, that ceiling is fairly high. But there is a limit that you don't see from other top publics. I worked at a big bank in NYC. Lots of SUNY grads in mid-office making a very nice living, but very few making the big bucks.


LOL PP that graduated from Binghamton. I don't even know how to respond.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2026 06:51     Subject: SUNY rankings

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
She graduated from Geneseo. What do you expect? A lot of people have grammar issues, so I often see people say things like I live in the UWS.


Is that a grammar issues or local convention issue?

Wherever you live, you don't grow up in an island.

The UWS is a neighborhood, not an island. No one lives “on” the West Village, they live “in” the West Village.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2026 00:53     Subject: SUNY rankings

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
She graduated from Geneseo. What do you expect? A lot of people have grammar issues, so I often see people say things like I live in the UWS.


Is that a grammar issues or local convention issue?

Wherever you live, you don't grow up in an island.
Anonymous
Post 05/15/2026 00:21     Subject: SUNY rankings

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have spent my whole life living in NYC or the NJ suburbs of NYC so know the schools well. The rankings above are very accurate.

I just find there to be a certain provincialism and lack of sophistication among many of the SUNYs. I think this is why many kids from New York go out of state, often to state schools that might cost a lot more and not actually be any better. You will get this to some degree at any state school, particularly a larger one, but it just seems more prevalent at SUNYs.

Sorry - hard to explain. But IYKYK.


Very true. It's a class division (with some exceptions). That said, this seems to be true of all non-flagship or non Top 50 public schools and is not unique to SUNYs.


Agreed but at SUNY it is even applicable at the top schools while, like you said, in other states it is only generally at the non-flagships.

There's just a lack of a certain social refinement from SUNY grads. And a lack of awareness that they are lacking that social refinement. They aren't crass or anything like that. Just not people who would hold up well at a black tie event with a bunch of Ivy League types. Which creates a ceiling for them professionally. And don't get me wrong, that ceiling is fairly high. But there is a limit that you don't see from other top publics. I worked at a big bank in NYC. Lots of SUNY grads in mid-office making a very nice living, but very few making the big bucks.


I graduated from Oswego and make well over 7 figures a year. I often speak to hundreds at events and can more than hold my own on the rubber chicken circuit. I’m pretty sure that the Ivy leaguers who report to me don’t hold my school against me or they at least have the common sense to stay silent.
Anonymous
Post 05/14/2026 22:28     Subject: SUNY rankings

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have spent my whole life living in NYC or the NJ suburbs of NYC so know the schools well. The rankings above are very accurate.

I just find there to be a certain provincialism and lack of sophistication among many of the SUNYs. I think this is why many kids from New York go out of state, often to state schools that might cost a lot more and not actually be any better. You will get this to some degree at any state school, particularly a larger one, but it just seems more prevalent at SUNYs.

Sorry - hard to explain. But IYKYK.


Very true. It's a class division (with some exceptions). That said, this seems to be true of all non-flagship or non Top 50 public schools and is not unique to SUNYs.


Agreed but at SUNY it is even applicable at the top schools while, like you said, in other states it is only generally at the non-flagships.

There's just a lack of a certain social refinement from SUNY grads. And a lack of awareness that they are lacking that social refinement. They aren't crass or anything like that. Just not people who would hold up well at a black tie event with a bunch of Ivy League types. Which creates a ceiling for them professionally. And don't get me wrong, that ceiling is fairly high. But there is a limit that you don't see from other top publics. I worked at a big bank in NYC. Lots of SUNY grads in mid-office making a very nice living, but very few making the big bucks.


You know there are several CEOs, many large law firm/Wall Street partners etc who are SUNY grads. I think they are mingling in those spaces just fine.


They are very good schools. Not denying that. Plenty of alums who do very nicely. Great means of social mobility. Which is the goal. But just culturally different from a lot of other top state schools.
Anonymous
Post 05/14/2026 22:26     Subject: SUNY rankings

Anonymous wrote:
She graduated from Geneseo. What do you expect? A lot of people have grammar issues, so I often see people say things like I live in the UWS.


Is that a grammar issues or local convention issue?