Don't boomer then

Any of them will break my hip when they hit me from behind going fast on the paved trails. I walk on the right edge and they nearly hit me anyway.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not to be pedantic, but...

Most of the bikes associated with bad behavior are the smaller, faster e-motos and not garden-variety e-bikes. Sure, kids do wheelies and ride all manner of vehicles dangerously – as they have forever, but the recent uptick in noticeable issues is from kids riding e-motos.

https://www.peopleforbikes.org/news/the-e-bike-problem-is-an-e-moto-problem

When people start saying stuff like "ban e-bikes" they probably don't mean what they think they mean. The person getting groceries with the e-cargo bike is not the problem here.

This distinction is irrelevant to most of us on here. We see kids acting stupid on bike shaped vehicles with pedals that go too fast. The adults are also a problem on these vehicles, including those on cargo bikes who blow through stop signs no matter what is happening at the intersection. That's outside the scope of this thread, though.

No, this is an uninformed opinion. The distinction between e-bikes and e-motos is critical, both legally and in terms of the risks they present for riders and others - e-bikes are legally treated as bicycles, while e-motos are classified as motorized vehicles - they are motorcycles, period. And even within e-bikes, the distinction between class 1 and 3 is meaningful - class 1 is just a pedal assist bike, great for people who live in hilly areas and commute on their bike to work or school. A Class 3 e-bike is closer to an e-moto, but the throttle cuts off at 20 MPH, whereas e-motos can go up to 70 MPH. We live in a mountain community where the cops (and schools) have finally cracked down hard on e-motos after too many fatalities. Whereas a kid riding a class 1 pedal-assist e-bike to school is no more annoying or threatening than a kid on a BMX bike.

Anonymous wrote:Not to be pedantic, but...

Most of the bikes associated with bad behavior are the smaller, faster e-motos and not garden-variety e-bikes. Sure, kids do wheelies and ride all manner of vehicles dangerously – as they have forever, but the recent uptick in noticeable issues is from kids riding e-motos.

https://www.peopleforbikes.org/news/the-e-bike-problem-is-an-e-moto-problem

When people start saying stuff like "ban e-bikes" they probably don't mean what they think they mean. The person getting groceries with the e-cargo bike is not the problem here.

This distinction is irrelevant to most of us on here. We see kids acting stupid on bike shaped vehicles with pedals that go too fast. The adults are also a problem on these vehicles, including those on cargo bikes who blow through stop signs no matter what is happening at the intersection. That's outside the scope of this thread, though.

Not to be pedantic, but...

Most of the bikes associated with bad behavior are the smaller, faster e-motos and not garden-variety e-bikes. Sure, kids do wheelies and ride all manner of vehicles dangerously – as they have forever, but the recent uptick in noticeable issues is from kids riding e-motos.

https://www.peopleforbikes.org/news/the-e-bike-problem-is-an-e-moto-problem

When people start saying stuff like "ban e-bikes" they probably don't mean what they think they mean. The person getting groceries with the e-cargo bike is not the problem here.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If those are kids/young adults pulling stunts on major highways and freeways, on their dirt bikes, those are typically D.C., kids. Or that was the case a few years ago. Often they were in groups of 20 or more, and they would harrass the motorists and pedestrians.

I'm talking about kids that are around W&L. They are young, not 15/16 and white. I can see them b/c they don't wear helmets.

Yes. Those affluent kids on e-bikes are all around Arlington and Bethesda. The local Eyewitness news reported on this problem a couple weeks ago. It's a new phenomenon.

Anonymous wrote:If those are kids/young adults pulling stunts on major highways and freeways, on their dirt bikes, those are typically D.C., kids. Or that was the case a few years ago. Often they were in groups of 20 or more, and they would harrass the motorists and pedestrians.

I'm talking about kids that are around W&L. They are young, not 15/16 and white. I can see them b/c they don't wear helmets.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If those are kids/young adults pulling stunts on major highways and freeways, on their dirt bikes, those are typically D.C., kids. Or that was the case a few years ago. Often they were in groups of 20 or more, and they would harrass the motorists and pedestrians.

What makes you think they were from DC?

It was reported, accidentally, they were black.

Anonymous wrote:
It's not a matter of if there's a tragic accident, but *when*. It's too bad we're going to be reactive instead of proactive with this issue.

It won't be tragic. It'll be some fool actin' a fool....

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If those are kids/young adults pulling stunts on major highways and freeways, on their dirt bikes, those are typically D.C., kids. Or that was the case a few years ago. Often they were in groups of 20 or more, and they would harrass the motorists and pedestrians.

What makes you think they were from DC?

It was reported as such.

Np. I cannot emphasize this strongly enough: if you don't already have a dash cam in your car, get one. It will be your word against their parents when they sue you.