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Anonymous wrote:Pomona is very well known and respected here in our area in Southern CA. I think it's an amazing school, although DC didn't apply and is headed to the East Coast.

I will say - everyone always talks about how impossible it is to get into Pomona but our high school has an admit or two each year. This year two. And we're not at a particularly fancy school. A pretty good, well-regarded public school in So Cal. Is it not as hard as it seems? We have a fair number of students headed to Ivy and Top 20 schools.

It’s much easier in California, because they target students from California. It’s a long term plan for the college now that international dollars are drying up

Please back up your claim with actual data.

Here's a verifiable fact: Pomona has the fewest percentage of Californian students of any college in California, including Stanford. My theory is that Pomona (and other California schools) receives a disproportionate number of apps from Californian students who, shocker, want to stay in California. I'd wager that that it's actually a disadvantage to apply to Pomona from California because Pomona works hard to maintain geographical balance. I'd also bet that the belief that Pomona favors Californian is pure copium from entitled DMV residents who don't fully grasp how competitive colleges admissions are these days.

I don't think that's true. Pomona is 30% Californian. Please show a cite for this. https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/pomona-college/student-life/diversity/#overview

Pomona says 34% of Class of 2029 comes from California.

https://www.pomona.edu/about/profile-who-goes-pomona

Anonymous wrote:FWIW, the year before COVID when submission of test scores was still mandatory, Pomona ranked 17th overall in terms of median SAT scores among universities and LACs while still leading in FGLI and diversity admission. And, last I checked, Pomona receives the most ED apps of any LAC and receives more overall apps among any LAC that does not offer free applications. In other words, Pomona is in high demand and chooses the applicants it believes are best qualified. If certain anonymous internet posters with no experience in higher ed administration and an ideological bent believe that they know better that Pomona leadership, so be it.

By the way, Oxy is great. So this post has nothing to do with that school.

I want to see cites for this because it's too crude a valuation, so I think you made it up. Such a claim has to be based on per capita students since the ED application figure is only useful as a percentage of the entire application pool and/or the size of the entering class, which in Pomona's case is tiny.

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Anonymous wrote:Pomona is very well known and respected here in our area in Southern CA. I think it's an amazing school, although DC didn't apply and is headed to the East Coast.

I will say - everyone always talks about how impossible it is to get into Pomona but our high school has an admit or two each year. This year two. And we're not at a particularly fancy school. A pretty good, well-regarded public school in So Cal. Is it not as hard as it seems? We have a fair number of students headed to Ivy and Top 20 schools.

It’s much easier in California, because they target students from California. It’s a long term plan for the college now that international dollars are drying up

Please back up your claim with actual data.

Here's a verifiable fact: Pomona has the fewest percentage of Californian students of any college in California, including Stanford. My theory is that Pomona (and other California schools) receives a disproportionate number of apps from Californian students who, shocker, want to stay in California. I'd wager that that it's actually a disadvantage to apply to Pomona from California because Pomona works hard to maintain geographical balance. I'd also bet that the belief that Pomona favors Californian is pure copium from entitled DMV residents who don't fully grasp how competitive colleges admissions are these days.

I don't think that's true. Pomona is 30% Californian. Please show a cite for this. https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/pomona-college/student-life/diversity/#overview

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Anonymous wrote:Pitzer is also half the size of Oxy.

I have a student at Oxy who is doing very well there. I also know numerous kids at Pitzer and Scripps. DC was a strong student that got a good merit scholarship from Oxy.

On prestige, Pomona is a different league than Oxy. It just is.

I personally think the 5 Cs is a great consortium and would expect most to accept a Pomona offer over Oxy.

Having grown up in the LA area (west side), Oxy is an infinitely better location than Claremont.

Socially at school I would expect the 5 Cs schools to be better, and that is consistent with what I hear happening.

I have a recent Oxy grad and agree with all this. This thread is spiraling because these two schools aren't directly comparable. But the good students at Oxy, are very good and they are rewarded with merit aid. My DC had a great time, landed a job immediately, and loved the location, no regrets.

This.

Anonymous wrote:Pitzer is also half the size of Oxy.

I have a student at Oxy who is doing very well there. I also know numerous kids at Pitzer and Scripps. DC was a strong student that got a good merit scholarship from Oxy.

On prestige, Pomona is a different league than Oxy. It just is.

I personally think the 5 Cs is a great consortium and would expect most to accept a Pomona offer over Oxy.

Having grown up in the LA area (west side), Oxy is an infinitely better location than Claremont.

Socially at school I would expect the 5 Cs schools to be better, and that is consistent with what I hear happening.

I have a recent Oxy grad and agree with all this. This thread is spiraling because these two schools aren't directly comparable. But the good students at Oxy, are very good and they are rewarded with merit aid. My DC had a great time, landed a job immediately, and loved the location, no regrets.

Anonymous wrote:Pitzer doesn't need to give merit aid because Pitzer is much more desirable than Occidental (35% vs 17% yield).

Pitzer is a pay to play school. The kids are disinterested losers, wealthy, will do fine in life, but losers, if that's not what your kid is looking for, keep looking. -DP

Pomona is hands down the winner in terms of prestigeousness. A Landon grad I was roomates with in law school attended Pomona and he would have set himself on fire before attending Oxy. I thought he was out of the ordinary until I found the DCUM forum.

Anonymous wrote:How is in not well known when every other post on this board references WASP?

because this board has people experienced with higher education, and Pomona is consistently cited as a top 5 traditional liberal arts college in pretty much every ranking.

people in the LA area gravitate to UCLA/USC, who have more students attending in any one year than there are Pomona alums total.

I'm just speaking from experience- most people will confuse Pomona with Cal Poly Pomona because the latter has far more students (again- more in one year than total Pomona alums).

Those who know, know. Most professionals, graduate programs, and elite hiring recruiters in California know the whole Claremont set-up.

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Anonymous wrote:Pomona is very well known and respected here in our area in Southern CA. I think it's an amazing school, although DC didn't apply and is headed to the East Coast.

I will say - everyone always talks about how impossible it is to get into Pomona but our high school has an admit or two each year. This year two. And we're not at a particularly fancy school. A pretty good, well-regarded public school in So Cal. Is it not as hard as it seems? We have a fair number of students headed to Ivy and Top 20 schools.

It’s much easier in California, because they target students from California. It’s a long term plan for the college now that international dollars are drying up

International student enrollment has increased the past two years.

+ advantage Occidental

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pomona is very well known and respected here in our area in Southern CA. I think it's an amazing school, although DC didn't apply and is headed to the East Coast.

I will say - everyone always talks about how impossible it is to get into Pomona but our high school has an admit or two each year. This year two. And we're not at a particularly fancy school. A pretty good, well-regarded public school in So Cal. Is it not as hard as it seems? We have a fair number of students headed to Ivy and Top 20 schools.

It’s much easier in California, because they target students from California. It’s a long term plan for the college now that international dollars are drying up

Please back up your claim with actual data.

Here's a verifiable fact: Pomona has the fewest percentage of Californian students of any college in California, including Stanford. My theory is that Pomona (and other California schools) receives a disproportionate number of apps from Californian students who, shocker, want to stay in California. I'd wager that that it's actually a disadvantage to apply to Pomona from California because Pomona works hard to maintain geographical balance. I'd also bet that the belief that Pomona favors Californian is pure copium from entitled DMV residents who don't fully grasp how competitive colleges admissions are these days.

I would but you don’t have access to the ASPC page where admissions talked to the senators about this exact plan due to fluctuations in federal policy. Your also know this if you had access to President Starr’s emails where she talks about changes in federal policy. But yes, everyone but you who talks on here is wrong and has to be lying.

Anonymous wrote:Not remotely comparable. Pomona is the better school.

+1 Not even a close question.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pomona is very well known and respected here in our area in Southern CA. I think it's an amazing school, although DC didn't apply and is headed to the East Coast.

I will say - everyone always talks about how impossible it is to get into Pomona but our high school has an admit or two each year. This year two. And we're not at a particularly fancy school. A pretty good, well-regarded public school in So Cal. Is it not as hard as it seems? We have a fair number of students headed to Ivy and Top 20 schools.

It’s much easier in California, because they target students from California. It’s a long term plan for the college now that international dollars are drying up

Please back up your claim with actual data.

Here's a verifiable fact: Pomona has the fewest percentage of Californian students of any college in California, including Stanford. My theory is that Pomona (and other California schools) receives a disproportionate number of apps from Californian students who, shocker, want to stay in California. I'd wager that that it's actually a disadvantage to apply to Pomona from California because Pomona works hard to maintain geographical balance. I'd also bet that the belief that Pomona favors Californian is pure copium from entitled DMV residents who don't fully grasp how competitive colleges admissions are these days.

FWIW, the year before COVID when submission of test scores was still mandatory, Pomona ranked 17th overall in terms of median SAT scores among universities and LACs while still leading in FGLI and diversity admission. And, last I checked, Pomona receives the most ED apps of any LAC and receives more overall apps among any LAC that does not offer free applications. In other words, Pomona is in high demand and chooses the applicants it believes are best qualified. If certain anonymous internet posters with no experience in higher ed administration and an ideological bent believe that they know better that Pomona leadership, so be it.

By the way, Oxy is great. So this post has nothing to do with that school.

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Anonymous wrote:Pomona is very well known and respected here in our area in Southern CA. I think it's an amazing school, although DC didn't apply and is headed to the East Coast.

I will say - everyone always talks about how impossible it is to get into Pomona but our high school has an admit or two each year. This year two. And we're not at a particularly fancy school. A pretty good, well-regarded public school in So Cal. Is it not as hard as it seems? We have a fair number of students headed to Ivy and Top 20 schools.

It’s much easier in California, because they target students from California. It’s a long term plan for the college now that international dollars are drying up

That's good to know but please explain how CA students bringing in $.