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Anonymous wrote:At my agency you younger graduates will work for about 2 years or so and then move to private industry.

DOGE and republicans have pretty much made the working conditions worse than private industry and the pay is lower, so fed employment is just a step on the way to a career.

Assume the current administration doesn't want qualified people to actually stay, so it's a win win for them. Once the current supervisors who are constantly restraining everyone retire, we'll see what happens.

OPM doesn’t want longterm feds. I think they’re betting that AI can do everything Feds are currently doing.

Why do you say that?

https://fedscoop.com/two-year-tech-force-stints-aimed-young-approach-work-opm-director-says/

I would love to job hop and do different things, learning new things, but no one hires 50 years old that way. Also young people job hop because of remote work or more mobility (partly because they can’t afford to buy homes and have kids).

Honestly I am skeptical of what value an employee that is there for just 2 years even brings? They learn the systems and processes and then contribute for maybe 18 months, than leave? Unless they came in for a particular problem like a consultant or to build something simple like an ad campaign, it doesn’t support longer term multi year projects with staff churn. It works in tech because they are mostly making apps and such; I think with the AI efforts people will stay longer because those are much longer and more complicated engineering efforts.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At my agency you younger graduates will work for about 2 years or so and then move to private industry.

DOGE and republicans have pretty much made the working conditions worse than private industry and the pay is lower, so fed employment is just a step on the way to a career.

Assume the current administration doesn't want qualified people to actually stay, so it's a win win for them. Once the current supervisors who are constantly restraining everyone retire, we'll see what happens.

OPM doesn’t want longterm feds. I think they’re betting that AI can do everything Feds are currently doing.

Why do you say that?

https://fedscoop.com/two-year-tech-force-stints-aimed-young-approach-work-opm-director-says/

This is an interesting program. We’ll see how it plays out.

Anonymous wrote:Already the DOGErs are leaving, career feds are taking over and rehiring the staff.

It was all cosplay.

Where is this? Because that's not what is happening at my agency.

If I couldn't come up with 5 bullets in 5 minutes or less I would not know how to find a different job anyway.

Already the DOGErs are leaving, career feds are taking over and rehiring the staff.

It was all cosplay.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At my agency you younger graduates will work for about 2 years or so and then move to private industry.

DOGE and republicans have pretty much made the working conditions worse than private industry and the pay is lower, so fed employment is just a step on the way to a career.

Assume the current administration doesn't want qualified people to actually stay, so it's a win win for them. Once the current supervisors who are constantly restraining everyone retire, we'll see what happens.

OPM doesn’t want longterm feds. I think they’re betting that AI can do everything Feds are currently doing.

Why do you say that?

https://fedscoop.com/two-year-tech-force-stints-aimed-young-approach-work-opm-director-says/

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At my agency you younger graduates will work for about 2 years or so and then move to private industry.

DOGE and republicans have pretty much made the working conditions worse than private industry and the pay is lower, so fed employment is just a step on the way to a career.

Assume the current administration doesn't want qualified people to actually stay, so it's a win win for them. Once the current supervisors who are constantly restraining everyone retire, we'll see what happens.

OPM doesn’t want longterm feds. I think they’re betting that AI can do everything Feds are currently doing.

Why do you say that?

Anonymous wrote:Shame on you. Many jobs in the federal government are highly specific to their agencies and departments and do not exist anywhere else. The people who were laid off probably had difficulty finding work that matches their specific skillset. Of course they're going to try to return. Now DOGE has disappeared, job security is a little more guaranteed. And most agencies are apolitical.

A lot of friends who were laid off are re-applying.

So basically jobs that exist to support unemployable and useless skills and majors

Anonymous wrote:Give me a break. You don’t need to live in overpriced crappy DMV. Have some agency and go build a life somewhere else — believe it or not, there are other areas of the country with decent jobs that are growing.

You don’t need to stay here and settle or subject yourself to some soul sucking Fed job where you’re treated like crap and disrespected and lied to daily. Albeit “only” for 3 more years (maybe).

For most people that means finding TWO new jobs elsewhere, giving up a low mortgage rate potentially as well.

And no, nobody is hiring but health care and the sliver of tech for AI. Where do you suggest moving?

OP -- you are lucky to have lived a privileged life. For the rest of us, most of us will take any job at all because it's better than being homeless and starving.

Anonymous wrote:Amazing how many agencies are hiring lately and apparently have gotten applicants. How is that possible after the year of abuse — RIFs, doge, cancellation of TW and CBAs, low or zero pay raises, 5 bullets, criticism and insults, etc etc.

If any private company did something like that, they’d never get away with it — nobody would apply to work there for a long time. So how does the federal government get away with it?

You have never worked for a private company. They do this stuff and worse all the time. People continue to apply to work there because most people aren't independently wealthy.

Give me a break. You don’t need to live in overpriced crappy DMV. Have some agency and go build a life somewhere else — believe it or not, there are other areas of the country with decent jobs that are growing.

You don’t need to stay here and settle or subject yourself to some soul sucking Fed job where you’re treated like crap and disrespected and lied to daily. Albeit “only” for 3 more years (maybe).

Anonymous wrote:Amazing how many agencies are hiring lately and apparently have gotten applicants. How is that possible after the year of abuse — RIFs, doge, cancellation of TW and CBAs, low or zero pay raises, 5 bullets, criticism and insults, etc etc.

If any private company did something like that, they’d never get away with it — nobody would apply to work there for a long time. So how does the federal government get away with it?

This isn’t true and this is reality for most of us who work

Some people who were RIF’d have reemployment rights or extra advantages in the hiring process. I know we got some applicants RIF’d by other agencies and if they pass the various panels we have, we have to hire them over other candidates.

For people who don’t want to leave government or DC, don’t have an equivalent private sector job, etc. it makes sense to take advantage.

Anonymous wrote:At my agency you younger graduates will work for about 2 years or so and then move to private industry.

DOGE and republicans have pretty much made the working conditions worse than private industry and the pay is lower, so fed employment is just a step on the way to a career.

Assume the current administration doesn't want qualified people to actually stay, so it's a win win for them. Once the current supervisors who are constantly restraining everyone retire, we'll see what happens.

OPM doesn’t want longterm feds. I think they’re betting that AI can do everything Feds are currently doing.