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Anonymous wrote:Goodness. Is everyone's child on DCUM an engineer, CS, or finance major?

Or pre-med or nursing, but yes.

No. My liberal arts student received a full-time offer starting two weeks after graduation.

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Anonymous wrote:Headed to MIT for an architecture/engineering graduate program—Masters with an option to continue to PhD.

I’ve never heard of this. Almost always a PhD admission is separate of masters admission and masters students typically can’t just continue onto a PhD program, since those are funded opportunities that drain resources. Is it an unfunded PhD offer?

It’s funded.

Then he got into a PhD program. No one accepts a student to a masters and an unconditional PhD offer, with the option of just initially not having a PhD at all. That’s nonsensical from a Departmental finance and planning perspective

Oh, ok. I’ll be sure to tell my child that MIT is lying to her.

+1. PhD here. My grad program in the social sciences commonly admitted students to PhD program straight out of undergrad, who then earn an MS and a PhD. The dept prioritized funding for these students to the same degree that they did for students coming in with a Masters already.

Science masters here—don’t know what that person is talking about. I was accepted to several top programs and at all you could get masters or phd or both—your choice.

You apply to a masters or PhD program. Masters are typically not funded and lowest priority for TAship. In general, if you’re admitted to a PhD program, you first do coursework to get through a masters, then you move on to ABD. Typically a masters student isn’t getting a PhD at the same institution without having to reapply, since PhD admission costs money and they have to pay for your tuition/fees while providing a stipend.

No department with money sense gives a masters student a PhD “option,” without reapplication, because the funding streams are entirely separate.

This isn’t Europe, where a masters is expected for a PhD and a PhD is 3 years.

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Anonymous wrote:DS is looking. Debating on doing paralegal work as he's unsure about law school.

This is a good idea. While doing the job, he can learn a lot just by watching the lawyers and getting a feel for their responsibilities and roles. See if it seems like something he’d want do do day-in-and-day-out.

Just let him know the work for an entry level college graduate type paralegal is often boring, repetitive and not intellectually challenging. It’s heavy on admin and task management. Many steps removed from the intellectual/strategic part of law. It’s not for everyone. (We had many miserable straight-from-college paralegals who were basically dead weight because they found the work boring and weren’t able to pull themselves together to do it well.)

Anonymous wrote:Return offer from summer internship. Quantitative analyst at large firm in NY.

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Anonymous wrote:Headed to MIT for an architecture/engineering graduate program—Masters with an option to continue to PhD.

I’ve never heard of this. Almost always a PhD admission is separate of masters admission and masters students typically can’t just continue onto a PhD program, since those are funded opportunities that drain resources. Is it an unfunded PhD offer?

It’s funded.

Then he got into a PhD program. No one accepts a student to a masters and an unconditional PhD offer, with the option of just initially not having a PhD at all. That’s nonsensical from a Departmental finance and planning perspective

Oh, ok. I’ll be sure to tell my child that MIT is lying to her.

+1. PhD here. My grad program in the social sciences commonly admitted students to PhD program straight out of undergrad, who then earn an MS and a PhD. The dept prioritized funding for these students to the same degree that they did for students coming in with a Masters already.

Science masters here—don’t know what that person is talking about. I was accepted to several top programs and at all you could get masters or phd or both—your choice.

You apply to a masters or PhD program. Masters are typically not funded and lowest priority for TAship. In general, if you’re admitted to a PhD program, you first do coursework to get through a masters, then you move on to ABD. Typically a masters student isn’t getting a PhD at the same institution without having to reapply, since PhD admission costs money and they have to pay for your tuition/fees while providing a stipend.

No department with money sense gives a masters student a PhD “option,” without reapplication, because the funding streams are entirely separate.

This isn’t Europe, where a masters is expected for a PhD and a PhD is 3 years.

Not how it worked in my program—everyone admitted to the graduate program. Your choice what degree to get. Tuition covered for everyone. Everyone on a stipend. No reapplying to get the PhD. Same for every department I applied to. Top tier science programs.

Anonymous wrote:DS is looking. Debating on doing paralegal work as he's unsure about law school.

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Anonymous wrote:Headed to MIT for an architecture/engineering graduate program—Masters with an option to continue to PhD.

I’ve never heard of this. Almost always a PhD admission is separate of masters admission and masters students typically can’t just continue onto a PhD program, since those are funded opportunities that drain resources. Is it an unfunded PhD offer?

It’s funded.

Then he got into a PhD program. No one accepts a student to a masters and an unconditional PhD offer, with the option of just initially not having a PhD at all. That’s nonsensical from a Departmental finance and planning perspective

Oh, ok. I’ll be sure to tell my child that MIT is lying to her.

+1. PhD here. My grad program in the social sciences commonly admitted students to PhD program straight out of undergrad, who then earn an MS and a PhD. The dept prioritized funding for these students to the same degree that they did for students coming in with a Masters already.

Science masters here—don’t know what that person is talking about. I was accepted to several top programs and at all you could get masters or phd or both—your choice.

You apply to a masters or PhD program. Masters are typically not funded and lowest priority for TAship. In general, if you’re admitted to a PhD program, you first do coursework to get through a masters, then you move on to ABD. Typically a masters student isn’t getting a PhD at the same institution without having to reapply, since PhD admission costs money and they have to pay for your tuition/fees while providing a stipend.

No department with money sense gives a masters student a PhD “option,” without reapplication, because the funding streams are entirely separate.

This isn’t Europe, where a masters is expected for a PhD and a PhD is 3 years.

Anonymous wrote:Jane Street

Actually, no. But I knew for a second it would breed envy among everyone here who knows absolutely nothing about finance except that one firm. I love when people name drop where their kid is working, have no clue what they are referring to, but act like an expert. No one has done it yet, but it will happen. Oh yes, it will.

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Anonymous wrote:Headed to MIT for an architecture/engineering graduate program—Masters with an option to continue to PhD.

I’ve never heard of this. Almost always a PhD admission is separate of masters admission and masters students typically can’t just continue onto a PhD program, since those are funded opportunities that drain resources. Is it an unfunded PhD offer?

It’s funded.

Then he got into a PhD program. No one accepts a student to a masters and an unconditional PhD offer, with the option of just initially not having a PhD at all. That’s nonsensical from a Departmental finance and planning perspective

Oh, ok. I’ll be sure to tell my child that MIT is lying to her.

+1. PhD here. My grad program in the social sciences commonly admitted students to PhD program straight out of undergrad, who then earn an MS and a PhD. The dept prioritized funding for these students to the same degree that they did for students coming in with a Masters already.

Science masters here—don’t know what that person is talking about. I was accepted to several top programs and at all you could get masters or phd or both—your choice.

DS has a few friends in fully funded masters programs. I think the universities would love these students to continue on to get the PhD, it’s more the student who isn’t sure. So yes, it happens.

DS is a fully funded PhD student in engineering.

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Anonymous wrote:Goodness. Is everyone's child on DCUM an engineer, CS, or finance major?

Or pre-med or nursing, but yes.