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Anonymous wrote:UVA waitlist for NoVA student with high rigor/stats. Shouldn’t have to ED to get into your state school.

My NOVA student got in EA. I bet there is something else going on like no world language AP or no AP Lit or a test score that wasn’t 1500+. What were the test scores? Going ED doesn’t really increase your chances. It is literally a straight line of GPA and the highest test score on my DC’s scattergram, regardless of ED or EA. The cut off is the same.

DP - class of 25 from our nova school definitely did not require a 1500+ SAT. Many students who ended up going there and did not have SATs in that range and numerous students who did were not admitted. It is a fallacy that you have to be the best of the best to go to UVA. There are other factors

Anonymous wrote:UVA waitlist for NoVA student with high rigor/stats. Shouldn’t have to ED to get into your state school.

There are 3900 spots in the entire class and 1/3 is oos. No guarantee that ED would work either. Although it’s nice to have if it is your first choice. Lots of great in state kids outside of NOVA not getting in either.

Michigan

Stony Brook. DD was excited about possibly going there until some things happened with the scholarship process. It seems that Stony Brook likes pretentious kids.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA waitlist for NoVA student with high rigor/stats. Shouldn’t have to ED to get into your state school.

My NOVA student got in EA. I bet there is something else going on like no world language AP or no AP Lit or a test score that wasn’t 1500+. What were the test scores? Going ED doesn’t really increase your chances. It is literally a straight line of GPA and the highest test score on my DC’s scattergram, regardless of ED or EA. The cut off is the same.

NP. Not contradicting you, but how do you know who EDs and who EAs? The scattergrams don't account for that.

Our competitive FCPS school has a pretty big area with mixed results: 4.2/4.3/4.4 and scores in 1400s. Some get in and some don't. Does ED make a difference with this group?

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Anonymous wrote:Northeastern and Case Western are the worst with their yield management.

Mine was accepted at Duke, Northwestern, and Michigan -- waitlisted at Case and BU.

(not complaining! but yield optimization shouldn't exist, it really just adds to the confusion and chaos)

Waitlisting your kid is the perfect solution here. They made the correct assumption your child was highly competitive and would get into higher demand schools. They offered waitlist in the off chance your student had them as their first choice, and presumably your student would let them know that and probably had a decent chance of getting off the waitlist.

+1

This is exactly where waitlisting makes sense.

Anonymous wrote:UVA waitlist for NoVA student with high rigor/stats. Shouldn’t have to ED to get into your state school.

My NOVA student got in EA. I bet there is something else going on like no world language AP or no AP Lit or a test score that wasn’t 1500+. What were the test scores? Going ED doesn’t really increase your chances. It is literally a straight line of GPA and the highest test score on my DC’s scattergram, regardless of ED or EA. The cut off is the same.

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Anonymous wrote:Northeastern and Case Western are the worst with their yield management.

Mine was accepted at Duke, Northwestern, and Michigan -- waitlisted at Case and BU.

(not complaining! but yield optimization shouldn't exist, it really just adds to the confusion and chaos)

But some students are accepted to these schools at the same time, and many of those admitted are highly qualified as well. Those who weren’t admitted might think it’s due to yield protection, but it could also simply be that schools look at different factors or that your child is in a different applicant pool. When the competition is high, it’s hard to predict.

If you weren’t admitted to a school with a 50–70% acceptance rate, it might seem somewhat unexpected.

Anonymous wrote:First time mom in this process. A lot of wins and a few hard losses. All losses hard but some felt 'cleaner' than others. Some made sense/fair enough and others left a bad taste with seemingly non transparent admissions policies, agressive marketing, all the 'we care about the kids' bs, evident yeild managment, games etc. Anyone else have a bad taste for particular schools or the entire process in general? I have another dc about to apply and man I am not looking forward to it. This are big businesses, they do not 'care about the kids.'

Yes

UVA waitlist for NoVA student with high rigor/stats. Shouldn’t have to ED to get into your state school.

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Anonymous wrote:Northeastern and Case Western are the worst with their yield management.

Mine was accepted at Duke, Northwestern, and Michigan -- waitlisted at Case and BU.

(not complaining! but yield optimization shouldn't exist, it really just adds to the confusion and chaos)

Waitlisting your kid is the perfect solution here. They made the correct assumption your child was highly competitive and would get into higher demand schools. They offered waitlist in the off chance your student had them as their first choice, and presumably your student would let them know that and probably had a decent chance of getting off the waitlist.

Anonymous wrote:Northeastern and Case Western are the worst with their yield management.

Mine was accepted at Duke, Northwestern, and Michigan -- waitlisted at Case and BU.

(not complaining! but yield optimization shouldn't exist, it really just adds to the confusion and chaos)

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Anonymous wrote:The in-state results coming out of the UCs were the most nonsensical I saw. It certainly left a bad taste.

Agree, they are nonsensical, but then DC got into Berkeley, which made us think they actually read his application.

But many deserving kids were rejected or waitlisted from our southern CA school. Rejected but accepted to Ivies, Hopkins, etc.

Yes, similar situation at my DC’s school. I was prepared for it because I had heard all the stories. But seeing it happen stinks. Lots of kids skipping on rigor got happy news. Meanwhile kids maxing rigor got rejected. Yes, I know they have more applicants than available spots. But so do other schools and they seem to manage this process better. I’ll also say, the way the UCs roll out decisions creates extreme anticipation and stress.

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Anonymous wrote:Stanford and Princeton for accepting 2 well known MEGA-striver kids. Like the absolute textbook definition of striver. “Sour grapes” all you want, I don’t care.

What does this mean? They accepted kids that work hard and strive and that's bad?

No. Dedicating their entire lives to getting into HYPS. Brains wired only for college admissions.

It is allowed for there to be schools for strivers. If you have a low tolerance for striving, avoid hypsm. You will be surrounded and miserable at those places.

I don’t get why anyone is hurt by a rejection from a school that has a very small acceptance rate. Do you really think your kid is so much more special than the tens of thousands of applicants?

It’s not personal, it CANT be personal. They don’t actually know your kid—they can get an idea based on their stats and essays and recs, but even those aren’t 100% accurate representations of your kid. A high SAT kid may have taken the test 8 times. A kid with amazing essays may have had a college counselor edit with a heavy heavy hand. A kid could have been the president of a club, but what if that club met once every month and the kid skipped it a few times.

Try not to get hurt. It’s a sucky process, but move on and don’t wallow