Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The US and EU will not abandon Israel, OP.

Retreating from this war does not constitute and abandonment of Israel. They will still have weapons deals with the West, and they will still occupy Lebanon. Sadly.

However, the image of Israel as the victim in the Middle East is shattered for this generation.

lol the EU only goes along with the US on Israel. No NATO and 25% tariffs will allow the EU to go their own way. They will put sanctions on Israel.

PP you replied to. I don't think so. I am French, and we deal with the legacy of WWII and the Holocaust in a way Americans cannot understand. I don't think the EU will abandon Israel anytime soon.

How old are you? If you're over 30, you can tell yourself that. But younger people see Israel for the terrorist state it is.

Both Israel and Iran are terrorists states and in both cases, most of the citizens are decent loving people.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The US and EU will not abandon Israel, OP.

Retreating from this war does not constitute and abandonment of Israel. They will still have weapons deals with the West, and they will still occupy Lebanon. Sadly.

However, the image of Israel as the victim in the Middle East is shattered for this generation.

lol the EU only goes along with the US on Israel. No NATO and 25% tariffs will allow the EU to go their own way. They will put sanctions on Israel.

PP you replied to. I don't think so. I am French, and we deal with the legacy of WWII and the Holocaust in a way Americans cannot understand. I don't think the EU will abandon Israel anytime soon.

How old are you? If you're over 30, you can tell yourself that. But younger people see Israel for the terrorist state it is.

DP. "Younger people" - presumably, like you - are just showing your profound ignorance. You really, really want to forget the Holocaust ever existed. I imagine you like to tell yourself it actually didn't happen, amirite?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The US and EU will not abandon Israel, OP.

Retreating from this war does not constitute and abandonment of Israel. They will still have weapons deals with the West, and they will still occupy Lebanon. Sadly.

However, the image of Israel as the victim in the Middle East is shattered for this generation.

lol the EU only goes along with the US on Israel. No NATO and 25% tariffs will allow the EU to go their own way. They will put sanctions on Israel.

PP you replied to. I don't think so. I am French, and we deal with the legacy of WWII and the Holocaust in a way Americans cannot understand. I don't think the EU will abandon Israel anytime soon.

How old are you? If you're over 30, you can tell yourself that. But younger people see Israel for the terrorist state it is.

Anonymous wrote:It’s about time we “abandon” Israel.

X1000. The US must stop playing the role of the useful idiot.

If we don't abandon Israel now, they will drag us into war with Turkey next

Israel is a big boy,
They can defend themselves they don’t need big brother.

Marie Antoinetanyahu: Let them eat matzoh.

Americans: Good riddance.

The world: Mazel tov!


In latest warning, Zamir says IDF faces ‘severe harm’ if manpower crunch isn’t solved
https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-latest-warning-zamir-says-idf-faces-severe-harm-if-manpower-crunch-isnt-solved/

IDF Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Eyal Zamir again warned lawmakers on Wednesday that the military would face “severe harm” if the government does not pass legislation addressing the army’s personnel shortages.

Zamir was responding to members of Knesset who sent him a letter criticizing the removal of a reservist battalion from the West Bank, after troops detained and allegedly assaulted a CNN crew while trumpeting far-right ideology.

The IDF chief, in his response letter dated March 30, wrote that the MK’s letter was “important.”

He added that he wanted to address “the concern that you raised regarding IDF soldiers and the reserve system in particular, and to call on you to fulfill your responsibility.”

Anonymous wrote:How do we just leave the Iran war? Israel wouldnt be able to stand on its own against Iran. Same with the GCC. Israel is invading southern Lebanon any agreement will have to include Lebanon as well.

Is this a surrender?

It has always been clear that Trump was going to be bad for Jews. Delusion to expect otherwise.

We should have abandon them as soon as they slaughtered our American navy personnel aboard the USS Liberty. But the reality is they are the only foreign nations to kill Americans with zero repercussions

Think of it like Afghanistan on steroids.
You can leave sooner or with the collapse of the world economy and food supply.

Anonymous wrote:I am not buying the whole

"this conflict is done in 2-3 weeks"

Even if there's a ceasefire tonight, prices will remain high for months because damage to oil facilities needs to be repaired, and we don't know under which conditions the Straight of Hormuz will open.

Of course, that stupid Trump will claim he won.

"Abandoning"

More like Dr. Frankenstein realizing it created a monster where America (media, govt and once-respected institutions) has been enabling the monster for 75 years. Funding it, destroying Int'l and domestic law and endlessly-lying on its behalf to the point of enabling/funding a genocide.

The villagers (American voters) have to take matters into their own hands by making it clear it does not want to support the monster.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The US and EU will not abandon Israel, OP.

Retreating from this war does not constitute and abandonment of Israel. They will still have weapons deals with the West, and they will still occupy Lebanon. Sadly.

However, the image of Israel as the victim in the Middle East is shattered for this generation.

lol the EU only goes along with the US on Israel. No NATO and 25% tariffs will allow the EU to go their own way. They will put sanctions on Israel.

PP you replied to. I don't think so. I am French, and we deal with the legacy of WWII and the Holocaust in a way Americans cannot understand. I don't think the EU will abandon Israel anytime soon.

You are wrong. The genocide and taking of land by Israel is a clear threat to the EU. 100’s of thousands of refugees and immigrants seek the EU because of Israel’s actions. Israel is a pariah state.

Also WTF? Israel is committing genocide, ethic cleansing and constantly creating failed states through out the regime. Of the 20 million people murdered in death camps and by death squads in Europe 6 million were Jewish. What about the other 14 million? What has France does for those survivors?

No one owes Israelis anything. During WW2 the allied powers killed 1/4-1/2 the population of Iran. The EU is living with that legacy very well.

French PP here. I don't disagree with you. But I am telling what's going to actually happen. Not whether I agree with it or not!

The EU will keep ties to Israel. "Aid" might not be labeled as such, but there will be arms deals, trade, etc. That is just how it is, PP.

I hope we are. Until Bibi and trump are gone, we can’t do anything with or for Israel.

Iran’s friends are about to make life much more difficult for Israel and the US
https://www.rt.com/news/636970-iran-friends-war-us-israel/

The war’s second ‘ring of fire’ is no longer forming around Iran. It is already there. What we are witnessing is not a limited clash between a state under pressure and its immediate enemies, but the gradual emergence of a wider regional confrontation in which Tehran’s allied forces are moving from symbolic solidarity to practical engagement.

In Lebanon, Iraq, and now once again in Yemen, groups aligned with Iran are opening new fronts and making any American or Israeli campaign far more difficult to execute. If Iran cannot stop pressure by matching superior military power plane for plane or missile for missile, it can still answer by stretching the battlefield across time and space.

That is the real significance of the current escalation. Wars are easiest to sell and easiest to sustain when they look concentrated, technically manageable, and politically clean. They become much harder to continue when every strike produces another zone of instability, when every advance prompts retaliation, and when every promise of decisive success runs into a new and costly complication.

Iran and the forces loyal to it understand this perfectly well. Their goal is not necessarily to win a spectacular conventional victory over Israel or the US. They are trying to deprive their adversaries of a quick result, to turn military superiority into strategic over-extension, and to make the price of escalation rise with every passing week.