Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you are off the clock there is no such thing as a weekend. I have hourly workers who work for me. I on purpose don't know their cell phone numbers as never plan on contacting them off work hours.
Highly paid exempt people who get a bonus with a company paid cell phone getting a text on a weekend freaking out well I go a solution.
I actually had someone once like you. I said go back on the clock, take away your paid for cell phone, you work 800 am to 430pm daily. You will get a set lunch break and a set 15 minute break. No work at all expected non work hours and on your lunch or break. Also will never contact you on vacation or day off. In fact I will have no way to do that.
Trade off I need you to take a $120,000 a year pay cut. So it will cost you $10,000 a month to avoid and occasional weekend text or email that needs response after work hours.
The person apparently realized she spends tops 1-2 hours a month on these after hour or weekend texts and she get paid $10,000 a month to do it. She was very happy going forward to answer them.
You're overpaying people 10K a month in anticipation of an occasional weekend email?
Pretty sure that makes you the fool.
I think you need to read a bit more carefully. The point is, hourly workers are paid less and are able to leave their work entirely at the office. After a certain salary threshold, you expect your employees to be available in the event of something after-hours needing their attention.
Maybe it's just few emails a month that they need to respond do. But if there's a five-alarm fire on a weekend, they'd damn better be there helping solve the problem. This is why they're paid more, and given more responsibility than, hourly workers.
This isn't work related, you moron. Bill had a kidney stone.
For Christ's sake, try and keep up.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you are off the clock there is no such thing as a weekend. I have hourly workers who work for me. I on purpose don't know their cell phone numbers as never plan on contacting them off work hours.
Highly paid exempt people who get a bonus with a company paid cell phone getting a text on a weekend freaking out well I go a solution.
I actually had someone once like you. I said go back on the clock, take away your paid for cell phone, you work 800 am to 430pm daily. You will get a set lunch break and a set 15 minute break. No work at all expected non work hours and on your lunch or break. Also will never contact you on vacation or day off. In fact I will have no way to do that.
Trade off I need you to take a $120,000 a year pay cut. So it will cost you $10,000 a month to avoid and occasional weekend text or email that needs response after work hours.
The person apparently realized she spends tops 1-2 hours a month on these after hour or weekend texts and she get paid $10,000 a month to do it. She was very happy going forward to answer them.
You're overpaying people 10K a month in anticipation of an occasional weekend email?
Pretty sure that makes you the fool.
I think you need to read a bit more carefully. The point is, hourly workers are paid less and are able to leave their work entirely at the office. After a certain salary threshold, you expect your employees to be available in the event of something after-hours needing their attention.
Maybe it's just few emails a month that they need to respond do. But if there's a five-alarm fire on a weekend, they'd damn better be there helping solve the problem. This is why they're paid more, and given more responsibility than, hourly workers.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you are off the clock there is no such thing as a weekend. I have hourly workers who work for me. I on purpose don't know their cell phone numbers as never plan on contacting them off work hours.
Highly paid exempt people who get a bonus with a company paid cell phone getting a text on a weekend freaking out well I go a solution.
I actually had someone once like you. I said go back on the clock, take away your paid for cell phone, you work 800 am to 430pm daily. You will get a set lunch break and a set 15 minute break. No work at all expected non work hours and on your lunch or break. Also will never contact you on vacation or day off. In fact I will have no way to do that.
Trade off I need you to take a $120,000 a year pay cut. So it will cost you $10,000 a month to avoid and occasional weekend text or email that needs response after work hours.
The person apparently realized she spends tops 1-2 hours a month on these after hour or weekend texts and she get paid $10,000 a month to do it. She was very happy going forward to answer them.
You're overpaying people 10K a month in anticipation of an occasional weekend email?
Pretty sure that makes you the fool.
Anonymous wrote:If you are off the clock there is no such thing as a weekend. I have hourly workers who work for me. I on purpose don't know their cell phone numbers as never plan on contacting them off work hours.
Highly paid exempt people who get a bonus with a company paid cell phone getting a text on a weekend freaking out well I go a solution.
I actually had someone once like you. I said go back on the clock, take away your paid for cell phone, you work 800 am to 430pm daily. You will get a set lunch break and a set 15 minute break. No work at all expected non work hours and on your lunch or break. Also will never contact you on vacation or day off. In fact I will have no way to do that.
Trade off I need you to take a $120,000 a year pay cut. So it will cost you $10,000 a month to avoid and occasional weekend text or email that needs response after work hours.
The person apparently realized she spends tops 1-2 hours a month on these after hour or weekend texts and she get paid $10,000 a month to do it. She was very happy going forward to answer them.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you are off the clock there is no such thing as a weekend. I have hourly workers who work for me. I on purpose don't know their cell phone numbers as never plan on contacting them off work hours.
Highly paid exempt people who get a bonus with a company paid cell phone getting a text on a weekend freaking out well I go a solution.
I actually had someone once like you. I said go back on the clock, take away your paid for cell phone, you work 800 am to 430pm daily. You will get a set lunch break and a set 15 minute break. No work at all expected non work hours and on your lunch or break. Also will never contact you on vacation or day off. In fact I will have no way to do that.
Trade off I need you to take a $120,000 a year pay cut. So it will cost you $10,000 a month to avoid and occasional weekend text or email that needs response after work hours.
The person apparently realized she spends tops 1-2 hours a month on these after hour or weekend texts and she get paid $10,000 a month to do it. She was very happy going forward to answer them.
You're overpaying people 10K a month in anticipation of an occasional weekend email?
Pretty sure that makes you the fool.
Anonymous wrote:If you are off the clock there is no such thing as a weekend. I have hourly workers who work for me. I on purpose don't know their cell phone numbers as never plan on contacting them off work hours.
Highly paid exempt people who get a bonus with a company paid cell phone getting a text on a weekend freaking out well I go a solution.
I actually had someone once like you. I said go back on the clock, take away your paid for cell phone, you work 800 am to 430pm daily. You will get a set lunch break and a set 15 minute break. No work at all expected non work hours and on your lunch or break. Also will never contact you on vacation or day off. In fact I will have no way to do that.
Trade off I need you to take a $120,000 a year pay cut. So it will cost you $10,000 a month to avoid and occasional weekend text or email that needs response after work hours.
The person apparently realized she spends tops 1-2 hours a month on these after hour or weekend texts and she get paid $10,000 a month to do it. She was very happy going forward to answer them.
Anonymous wrote:If you are off the clock there is no such thing as a weekend. I have hourly workers who work for me. I on purpose don't know their cell phone numbers as never plan on contacting them off work hours.
Highly paid exempt people who get a bonus with a company paid cell phone getting a text on a weekend freaking out well I go a solution.
I actually had someone once like you. I said go back on the clock, take away your paid for cell phone, you work 800 am to 430pm daily. You will get a set lunch break and a set 15 minute break. No work at all expected non work hours and on your lunch or break. Also will never contact you on vacation or day off. In fact I will have no way to do that.
Trade off I need you to take a $120,000 a year pay cut. So it will cost you $10,000 a month to avoid and occasional weekend text or email that needs response after work hours.
The person apparently realized she spends tops 1-2 hours a month on these after hour or weekend texts and she get paid $10,000 a month to do it. She was very happy going forward to answer them.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My colleagues have my personal cell phone number. They have abused it since day one 6 years ago when I started. They routinely text me about non-critical work issues after hours and expect responses whether it be 5 am on a Sunday or 10 pm on a Tuesday.
This weekend one of our temamtes was admitted to Georgetown Hospital with severe chest pain. There were, I sh*t you not, 37 texts between 8 people expressing immediate concern and offers to help with their kids, dogs, meals etc.
Early this morning the 'patient' revealed that it was a ...... kidney stone.
Not even 15 minutes later, my manager (who is in the work group text) sent me a side text expressing 'dissapointment' that I had yet to chime in.
My wife and I had actaully taken a rare weekend away in a cabin by Charlottesville. My tean not only knew this, but I warned them that I might be unreachable as cell service is spotty down there.
Point being- they don't know whether I received these texts or not. So my manager's text is so out of line I'm having trouble containing my anger
I'm torn between playing dumb and texting back this afternoon "Hey, just back to reality and I got all these texts. Happy to hear Bill's issue wasnt serious!"
or
Texting my manager back alone and demanding a meeting with her boss first thing as this is clear cut harassment and invasion of privacy.
Your vote?
But no one knew it was a kidney stone initially, right? Seems like a normal caring person thing to discuss that with colleagues over the weekend. You should have chimed in early and then just been done with it. Not saying they should use your personal cell all the time, but in this case, it seems reasonable. You should just say you had your notifications silenced and just now seeing this. Deal with the inappropriate work texts another time when it's about something else.
No one knew it wasn't a heart attack or embolism either. People don't have to share every moment of their lives, OK?
I have gout that gives me a bad flare every year or so that literally cripples me and makes me bed ridden on opiates for 3 or 4 days. I don't share all that. I just send a work email out telling people I'm sick and will be working from home for a few days.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Right now, #1.
If you really are being bombarded with non work texts on your personal line, I would address that later at a more appropriate time. Addressing it now right after co worker had health scare seems wrong.
This. Personally, I have zero interest in being bombarded by coworker-related texts over the weekend, including about Kevin's kidney stone or other health issue.
I wish I could like this 100 times.
Who the hell are these people that think their colleages who think they are owed attention? Do that not have lives of their own? How would they like their phone blowing up about........... my broken lawnmower.... or whatever issue I'm dealing with while they tend to their families' needs?
I fully admit I'm a bit of a misanthope but this angers me to no end. I would have lost it on your manager.
Did they seriously thnk Bill's kidney stone was important enough to not only interrupt your weekend but to actually attempt to shame you???
I honestly belive this is textbook harassment , and if this happens regularly that you could sue your employer.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My colleagues have my personal cell phone number. They have abused it since day one 6 years ago when I started. They routinely text me about non-critical work issues after hours and expect responses whether it be 5 am on a Sunday or 10 pm on a Tuesday.
This weekend one of our temamtes was admitted to Georgetown Hospital with severe chest pain. There were, I sh*t you not, 37 texts between 8 people expressing immediate concern and offers to help with their kids, dogs, meals etc.
Early this morning the 'patient' revealed that it was a ...... kidney stone.
Not even 15 minutes later, my manager (who is in the work group text) sent me a side text expressing 'dissapointment' that I had yet to chime in.
My wife and I had actaully taken a rare weekend away in a cabin by Charlottesville. My tean not only knew this, but I warned them that I might be unreachable as cell service is spotty down there.
Point being- they don't know whether I received these texts or not. So my manager's text is so out of line I'm having trouble containing my anger
I'm torn between playing dumb and texting back this afternoon "Hey, just back to reality and I got all these texts. Happy to hear Bill's issue wasnt serious!"
or
Texting my manager back alone and demanding a meeting with her boss first thing as this is clear cut harassment and invasion of privacy.
Your vote?
But no one knew it was a kidney stone initially, right? Seems like a normal caring person thing to discuss that with colleagues over the weekend. You should have chimed in early and then just been done with it. Not saying they should use your personal cell all the time, but in this case, it seems reasonable. You should just say you had your notifications silenced and just now seeing this. Deal with the inappropriate work texts another time when it's about something else.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Right now, #1.
If you really are being bombarded with non work texts on your personal line, I would address that later at a more appropriate time. Addressing it now right after co worker had health scare seems wrong.
This. Personally, I have zero interest in being bombarded by coworker-related texts over the weekend, including about Kevin's kidney stone or other health issue.
I wish I could like this 100 times.
Who the hell are these people that think their colleages who think they are owed attention? Do that not have lives of their own? How would they like their phone blowing up about........... my broken lawnmower.... or whatever issue I'm dealing with while they tend to their families' needs?
I fully admit I'm a bit of a misanthope but this angers me to no end. I would have lost it on your manager.
Did they seriously thnk Bill's kidney stone was important enough to not only interrupt your weekend but to actually attempt to shame you???
I honestly belive this is textbook harassment , and if this happens regularly that you could sue your employer.
Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine why anyone would tell work colleagues they were heading to the ER over the weekend??? Is this a thing? Why?
And I certainly can’t imagine telling colleagues about kidney stones. So weird.