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Anonymous wrote:***To this day Israel has yet been able to effectuate regime change in Gaza, a small region it borders that it starved and Genocided.***

Whats the chance it is sucessful at regime change on a country with 90M, full of mountain, a half a continent away, with a population that has a will to fight, and some tech. superiority.

Our leaders are insane and have a false sense of superiority and power.

+1 (and maybe Jeff can attest that I am not one of the anti-Israel anti-Zionist posters - quite the opposite). Certainly this action raises certain costs for Iran but the idea that we brought the country completely to its knees in a day is just funny if not so sad.

Maybe this is the time to again tell the story about the early 2000s when I met one of the 20-something Bush appointees who was headed to Iraq to work for the state departmen, a Fed Soc type lawyer with zero experience. I asked him what he was going to do in Iraq and he said “advise them on developing the rule of law so they can transition to democracy.” I asked “oh really, how does one do that!” And he said “Well, I will teach them about Marbury v Madison.” Me “….”

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Anonymous wrote:Trump doesn't want regime change.

He wants bribes from the leaders of the country who control its resources. That's all.

Got it all figured out, eh?

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Anonymous wrote:***To this day Israel has yet been able to effectuate regime change in Gaza, a small region it borders that it starved and Genocided.***

Whats the chance it is sucessful at regime change on a country with 90M, full of mountain, a half a continent away, with a population that has a will to fight, and some tech. superiority.

Our leaders are insane and have a false sense of superiority and power.

+1 (and maybe Jeff can attest that I am not one of the anti-Israel anti-Zionist posters - quite the opposite). Certainly this action raises certain costs for Iran but the idea that we brought the country completely to its knees in a day is just funny if not so sad.

Maybe this is the time to again tell the story about the early 2000s when I met one of the 20-something Bush appointees who was headed to Iraq to work for the state departmen, a Fed Soc type lawyer with zero experience. I asked him what he was going to do in Iraq and he said “advise them on developing the rule of law so they can transition to democracy.” I asked “oh really, how does one do that!” And he said “Well, I will teach them about Marbury v Madison.” Me “….”

I don't see what's wrong with that? Your friend was the only person involved in democratization. He has had one small role.

I mean, nothing wrong with that on the micro scale. But on the macro scale was an astonishing Wizard of Oz moment for me to understand how unbelievably dumb our foreign policy was as that time.

As dumb as it was, it was a million times smarter than the current yahoos. At least Bush and co realized they had to do something beyond killing the current leadership even if their plan doesn’t doing that was terrible. Trump and his goons think they can just kill off the top Iranian leaders and magically a pro-US government will arise from the ashes.

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Anonymous wrote:***To this day Israel has yet been able to effectuate regime change in Gaza, a small region it borders that it starved and Genocided.***

Whats the chance it is sucessful at regime change on a country with 90M, full of mountain, a half a continent away, with a population that has a will to fight, and some tech. superiority.

Our leaders are insane and have a false sense of superiority and power.

+1 (and maybe Jeff can attest that I am not one of the anti-Israel anti-Zionist posters - quite the opposite). Certainly this action raises certain costs for Iran but the idea that we brought the country completely to its knees in a day is just funny if not so sad.

Maybe this is the time to again tell the story about the early 2000s when I met one of the 20-something Bush appointees who was headed to Iraq to work for the state departmen, a Fed Soc type lawyer with zero experience. I asked him what he was going to do in Iraq and he said “advise them on developing the rule of law so they can transition to democracy.” I asked “oh really, how does one do that!” And he said “Well, I will teach them about Marbury v Madison.” Me “….”

I don't see what's wrong with that? Your friend was the only person involved in democratization. He has had one small role.

I mean, nothing wrong with that on the micro scale. But on the macro scale was an astonishing Wizard of Oz moment for me to understand how unbelievably dumb our foreign policy was as that time.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:***To this day Israel has yet been able to effectuate regime change in Gaza, a small region it borders that it starved and Genocided.***

Whats the chance it is sucessful at regime change on a country with 90M, full of mountain, a half a continent away, with a population that has a will to fight, and some tech. superiority.

Our leaders are insane and have a false sense of superiority and power.

+1 (and maybe Jeff can attest that I am not one of the anti-Israel anti-Zionist posters - quite the opposite). Certainly this action raises certain costs for Iran but the idea that we brought the country completely to its knees in a day is just funny if not so sad.

Maybe this is the time to again tell the story about the early 2000s when I met one of the 20-something Bush appointees who was headed to Iraq to work for the state departmen, a Fed Soc type lawyer with zero experience. I asked him what he was going to do in Iraq and he said “advise them on developing the rule of law so they can transition to democracy.” I asked “oh really, how does one do that!” And he said “Well, I will teach them about Marbury v Madison.” Me “….”

I don't see what's wrong with that? Your friend was the only person involved in democratization. He has had one small role.

Anonymous wrote:***To this day Israel has yet been able to effectuate regime change in Gaza, a small region it borders that it starved and Genocided.***

Whats the chance it is sucessful at regime change on a country with 90M, full of mountain, a half a continent away, with a population that has a will to fight, and some tech. superiority.

Our leaders are insane and have a false sense of superiority and power.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump doesn't want regime change.

He wants bribes from the leaders of the country who control its resources. That's all.

It doesn't matter what Trump does or does not want. It has been clearly established that he is compromised and controlled by Israeli supporters that do want regime change and have been gunning for it for over 30 years.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:***To this day Israel has yet been able to effectuate regime change in Gaza, a small region it borders that it starved and Genocided.***

Whats the chance it is sucessful at regime change on a country with 90M, full of mountain, a half a continent away, with a population that has a will to fight, and some tech. superiority.

Our leaders are insane and have a false sense of superiority and power.

+1 (and maybe Jeff can attest that I am not one of the anti-Israel anti-Zionist posters - quite the opposite). Certainly this action raises certain costs for Iran but the idea that we brought the country completely to its knees in a day is just funny if not so sad.

Maybe this is the time to again tell the story about the early 2000s when I met one of the 20-something Bush appointees who was headed to Iraq to work for the state departmen, a Fed Soc type lawyer with zero experience. I asked him what he was going to do in Iraq and he said “advise them on developing the rule of law so they can transition to democracy.” I asked “oh really, how does one do that!” And he said “Well, I will teach them about Marbury v Madison.” Me “….”

I don't see what's wrong with that? Your friend was the only person involved in democratization. He has had one small role.

Anonymous wrote:You should call up the pentagon and let them know. I’m sure they didn’t think of any of this while having a plan they’ve constantly updated over the last couple of decades.