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GWU
Mason
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UDC

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Anonymous wrote:If you attended law school in the DC region (GWU, AU, Georgetown, Catholic, UDC, GMU), or your kid currently attends/graduated recently from one in the DC area: do you recommend the law school and why?

I would add UVA, W&M to the mix. They are just a few hours away and send tons of grads to DC.

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Anonymous wrote:FWIW, The current USNWR rankings are
Georgetown 14 (tied with others)
GW and Mason tied at 31 (with several others, including W&M)
Catholic 71 (tied)
American 104

I went to AU law when it was ranked in the top 50 and liked it, have had good jobs since graduation. But it was outrageously expensive then and seems to be so now. I can’t fathom what it has done to fall so far in the rankings.

If I had it to do all over again and wanted to be in this area, I would live in VA and go to Mason law school. Well ranked and a lot less expensive.

Yeah, what's going on at AU Law?

Likely nothing is "going on at AU Law," the rankings have never meant much beyond top 15 or so and they have shifted like crazy for many, many schools in recent history, and usually for no obvious reason. I attended Tulane when it was just inside the first tier at 40 and now it's 78. Nothing "going on" (although there were some issues when Katrina hit, that was over 20 years ago).

LOL. The "first tier" stops way short of no. 40.

Not when I went to law school it didn't. It referred to the top 50, not the top 14 like now.

When did you go to law school? Fifty years ago?

No, not 50 years ago.

When did you go to law school? Yeah, that’s what I thought. Never. You’re one of the mommies, right? Obsessing over things like this because you want your kid to go to law school? Yep. That’s what I thought.

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Anonymous wrote:Ill be sure to tell the managing partner of our DC office that as a Mason graduate I shouldn't be here. LOL.

The law and economics class aside which was a waste of time the education was first rate. Oh, I also had my loans paid off in two years while I had fellow associates trying to pay off their loans 6 and 7 years in. Damned tuition at GW is 3x more than Mason. I dont think they got a 3x better education for that cost.

Never said you can't get a job with Biglaw out of GMU. Just that Biglaw doesn't hold the law school in as high regard as its current ranking.

GMU, GWU and William & Mary are all tied at 31st in the latest rankings, for example. But 34 percent of the GWU Class of 2024 secured either a job with Biglaw or a federal clerkship at graduation, compared to 24 percent of William & Mary grads and only 18 percent at GMU grads.

Anonymous wrote:Don't bother with law schools unless you can get into top 5 - not even top 10.

Anonymous wrote:If you attended law school in the DC region (GWU, AU, Georgetown, Catholic, UDC, GMU), or your kid currently attends/graduated recently from one in the DC area: do you recommend the law school and why?

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Anonymous wrote:FWIW, The current USNWR rankings are
Georgetown 14 (tied with others)
GW and Mason tied at 31 (with several others, including W&M)
Catholic 71 (tied)
American 104

I went to AU law when it was ranked in the top 50 and liked it, have had good jobs since graduation. But it was outrageously expensive then and seems to be so now. I can’t fathom what it has done to fall so far in the rankings.

If I had it to do all over again and wanted to be in this area, I would live in VA and go to Mason law school. Well ranked and a lot less expensive.

Yeah, what's going on at AU Law?

Likely nothing is "going on at AU Law," the rankings have never meant much beyond top 15 or so and they have shifted like crazy for many, many schools in recent history, and usually for no obvious reason. I attended Tulane when it was just inside the first tier at 40 and now it's 78. Nothing "going on" (although there were some issues when Katrina hit, that was over 20 years ago).

LOL. The "first tier" stops way short of no. 40.

Not when I went to law school it didn't. It referred to the top 50, not the top 14 like now.

When did you go to law school? Fifty years ago?

No, not 50 years ago.

When did you go to law school? Yeah, that’s what I thought. Never. You’re one of the mommies, right? Obsessing over things like this because you want your kid to go to law school? Yep. That’s what I thought.

I am a law school graduate.

Sure, Jan.

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Anonymous wrote:FWIW, The current USNWR rankings are
Georgetown 14 (tied with others)
GW and Mason tied at 31 (with several others, including W&M)
Catholic 71 (tied)
American 104

I went to AU law when it was ranked in the top 50 and liked it, have had good jobs since graduation. But it was outrageously expensive then and seems to be so now. I can’t fathom what it has done to fall so far in the rankings.

If I had it to do all over again and wanted to be in this area, I would live in VA and go to Mason law school. Well ranked and a lot less expensive.

Yeah, what's going on at AU Law?

Likely nothing is "going on at AU Law," the rankings have never meant much beyond top 15 or so and they have shifted like crazy for many, many schools in recent history, and usually for no obvious reason. I attended Tulane when it was just inside the first tier at 40 and now it's 78. Nothing "going on" (although there were some issues when Katrina hit, that was over 20 years ago).

LOL. The "first tier" stops way short of no. 40.

Not when I went to law school it didn't. It referred to the top 50, not the top 14 like now.

When did you go to law school? Fifty years ago?

No, not 50 years ago.

When did you go to law school? Yeah, that’s what I thought. Never. You’re one of the mommies, right? Obsessing over things like this because you want your kid to go to law school? Yep. That’s what I thought.

I am a law school graduate.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting that Howard hasn't been mentioned yet...

Howard has a law school?

Yes. And stop being a racist jerk.

Ppl on this board don't go beyond their bubble. I know MANY Howard Law grads and grads from "low tier" schools that live great lives.

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Anonymous wrote:Ill be sure to tell the managing partner of our DC office that as a Mason graduate I shouldn't be here. LOL.

The law and economics class aside which was a waste of time the education was first rate. Oh, I also had my loans paid off in two years while I had fellow associates trying to pay off their loans 6 and 7 years in. Damned tuition at GW is 3x more than Mason. I dont think they got a 3x better education for that cost.

Never said you can't get a job with Biglaw out of GMU. Just that Biglaw doesn't hold the law school in as high regard as its current ranking.

GMU, GWU and William & Mary are all tied at 31st in the latest rankings, for example. But 34 percent of the GWU Class of 2024 secured either a job with Biglaw or a federal clerkship at graduation, compared to 24 percent of William & Mary grads and only 18 percent at GMU grads.

One thing that affects biglaw placement rate is that GMU has a larger percentage of part timers / evening students than does William and Mary (which has none) and GW whose part timer percentage is 5%. The part timers / evening students are typically significantly older and have no desire to go onto the BigLaw hamster wheel. Many of them are either second career people or are already in a professional service and want to increase their ceiling by adding a JD and a license to practice.

And lets also remember BigLaw encompasses a huge tier of firms - basically most all of the AmLaw 200. Most of those firms pay "Cravath" scale in DC.

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Anonymous wrote:FWIW, The current USNWR rankings are
Georgetown 14 (tied with others)
GW and Mason tied at 31 (with several others, including W&M)
Catholic 71 (tied)
American 104

I went to AU law when it was ranked in the top 50 and liked it, have had good jobs since graduation. But it was outrageously expensive then and seems to be so now. I can’t fathom what it has done to fall so far in the rankings.

If I had it to do all over again and wanted to be in this area, I would live in VA and go to Mason law school. Well ranked and a lot less expensive.

Yeah, what's going on at AU Law?

Likely nothing is "going on at AU Law," the rankings have never meant much beyond top 15 or so and they have shifted like crazy for many, many schools in recent history, and usually for no obvious reason. I attended Tulane when it was just inside the first tier at 40 and now it's 78. Nothing "going on" (although there were some issues when Katrina hit, that was over 20 years ago).

LOL. The "first tier" stops way short of no. 40.

Not when I went to law school it didn't. It referred to the top 50, not the top 14 like now.

When did you go to law school? Fifty years ago?

No, not 50 years ago.

When did you go to law school? Yeah, that’s what I thought. Never. You’re one of the mommies, right? Obsessing over things like this because you want your kid to go to law school? Yep. That’s what I thought.

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Anonymous wrote:If you want Biglaw your only realistic choices are Georgetown and GWU. Mason may be highly ranked but its reputation doesn't match its ranking. As for AU, virtually all of its top students end up transferring.

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Scalia law has done amazing things since it started unaccredited around 1976. Today, it hovers between 25-34. It sends a lot of its students to conservative judges and justices, who also teach there. It has sent six students to clerk in the Supreme Court. And,it is with great with merit (offered my son free tuition)

Well, five not six but who's counting. And nothing you said contradicts my post. GMU is highly ranked but doesn't place in Biglaw commensurate with its ranking. My guess is that it doesn't precisely because, as you imply, it's faculty and students are [b]super Trumpy and Biglaw skews liberal.

I’m there today at an antitrust conference and can say there is no one here “super Trumpy”. You are confusing the fact that there are all sorts of moderate to far right beliefs that have nothing to do with Trump. Even the judges appointed by him are, imho, not Trumpy.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting that Howard hasn't been mentioned yet...

Howard has a law school?

Yes. And stop being a racist jerk.