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Anonymous wrote:The vibes I got from the main 4…

Jay: I did a lot of messed up stuff for this show. I feel kinda bad about it.

Miss J: Yeah, it was a hot mess. Oh, well! I had fun.

Nigel: Who me? I was just there for the paycheck.

Tyra: Of course I did bad things, but YOU wanted it! So really it’s your fault!

More like:

Jay: I started to get a backbone to stand up against damaging behavior and so I said I was done! (Actions show not done and not further discussing new found morality). I was then shoved into a minor role and fired.

Miss J: i was fired but got flowers beforehand. My old boss has yet to reach out.

Nigel:

Tyra: The bad things done were not my call/decision or a result of the times. Every change in the industry since is a result of the show!! I’m still doing important things now!

Seems like Miss J was the bravest about being candid (re Tyra)

Anonymous wrote:The vibes I got from the main 4…

Jay: I did a lot of messed up stuff for this show. I feel kinda bad about it.

Miss J: Yeah, it was a hot mess. Oh, well! I had fun.

Nigel: Who me? I was just there for the paycheck.

Tyra: Of course I did bad things, but YOU wanted it! So really it’s your fault!

I think the majority of people sell their soils for $.

Courage is rare in most professions.

(The DoJ lawyers quitting are an exception. They should ALL be called to testify before Congress.)

Anonymous wrote:I've made it through two out of the three episodes and honestly, I'm not sure if I can stomach another minute of Tyra's smug face when she's asked to defend her actions. The whole thing is grotesque. I feel ashamed of myself for watching ANTM in real time when it first aired, and how much I enjoyed it. Watching these clips now, I'm horrified.

I think we will feel the same way about all reality shows in the future.

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Anonymous wrote:did anyone from the show become a top model? Yaya was smart and successful in her own right, Eva Pigford/Marcille has had some TV success but can't think of a legit successful model

Watch it and find out.

It doesn’t really tell this side. It showed Eva Marcille’s social media followers being 5 mill+ but that’s it.

Did you watch all of the episodes? It tells who went on to model, how their careers went, what they are doing now.

One was a realtor. One did a little modeling. At no point did it say x became a top model.

The plus size model did.

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Anonymous wrote:I've only watched the first episode. I'm puzzled why Janice Dickinson isn't positioned as more of the bad guy. Tyra definitely looks more sane/caring compared to Janice.

Probably because she is dead, and can’t defend herself.

Janice D is alive.

She’s been married a million times and has truly botched her face. Just desserts IMO! https://www.tvinsider.com/people/janice-dickinson/

Yes. Nigel must use too much facial fillers. He looked like a softer version of Uncle Fester.

You live long enough and your inside becomes your outside.

Not really the point of the post you’re responding to. He has manipulated his face to add fat and it changed his attractive, angular bone structure to make him look like a character on The Addams Family. He’s 53…that’s not “living long enough…”

Yeah you missed the point.

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Anonymous wrote:I've only watched the first episode. I'm puzzled why Janice Dickinson isn't positioned as more of the bad guy. Tyra definitely looks more sane/caring compared to Janice.

Probably because she is dead, and can’t defend herself.

Janice D is alive.

She’s been married a million times and has truly botched her face. Just desserts IMO! https://www.tvinsider.com/people/janice-dickinson/

Yes. Nigel must use too much facial fillers. He looked like a softer version of Uncle Fester.

You live long enough and your inside becomes your outside.

Not really the point of the post you’re responding to. He has manipulated his face to add fat and it changed his attractive, angular bone structure to make him look like a character on The Addams Family. He’s 53…that’s not “living long enough…”

Anonymous wrote:The vibes I got from the main 4…

Jay: I did a lot of messed up stuff for this show. I feel kinda bad about it.

Miss J: Yeah, it was a hot mess. Oh, well! I had fun.

Nigel: Who me? I was just there for the paycheck.

Tyra: Of course I did bad things, but YOU wanted it! So really it’s your fault!

More like:

Jay: I started to get a backbone to stand up against damaging behavior and so I said I was done! (Actions show not done and not further discussing new found morality). I was then shoved into a minor role and fired.

Miss J: i was fired but got flowers beforehand. My old boss has yet to reach out.

Nigel:

Tyra: The bad things done were not my call/decision or a result of the times. Every change in the industry since is a result of the show!! I’m still doing important things now!

The vibes I got from the main 4…

Jay: I did a lot of messed up stuff for this show. I feel kinda bad about it.

Miss J: Yeah, it was a hot mess. Oh, well! I had fun.

Nigel: Who me? I was just there for the paycheck.

Tyra: Of course I did bad things, but YOU wanted it! So really it’s your fault!

I've made it through two out of the three episodes and honestly, I'm not sure if I can stomach another minute of Tyra's smug face when she's asked to defend her actions. The whole thing is grotesque. I feel ashamed of myself for watching ANTM in real time when it first aired, and how much I enjoyed it. Watching these clips now, I'm horrified.

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Anonymous wrote:Miss Jay was mean mean mean. They all liked abusing these young women, they just used the whole “ it’s a tough industry” as cover. They are all bad people.

+1

They all knew full well how awful they were being, and the effect it had. They enjoyed it. Maybe not Nigel? He's not an idiot though.

It's why Jay Manuel wanted to quit around cycle 9; it was weighing on him. But then he kept at it for years and years more. He tells how they pressured him to do another season and took all of his power away, which I'm sure was true, but then he stayed on for years, not just one more season.

He said he didn’t want to be blacklisted. Here’s the thing, maybe he would have been “done” in LA or NYC, but then you can move to another city and basically be THE celebrity makeup artist. He could have set up an amazing practice in any other major city. But what he wanted was NYC/LA level fame and money. He wanted it more than he wanted to be a good person. He wanted it more than he wanted to be true to his own conscience. So I feel for him a little bit, but come on: there’s not enough money in the WORLD that would make me treat Keenya like that; making her feel fat, and then not listening to her when she was speaking up about being sexually harassed, on camera, in real time, in front of his face.

They all sold their soul. Tyra is just more obvious about it.

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Anonymous wrote:I've only watched the first episode. I'm puzzled why Janice Dickinson isn't positioned as more of the bad guy. Tyra definitely looks more sane/caring compared to Janice.

Probably because she is dead, and can’t defend herself.

Janice D is alive.

She’s been married a million times and has truly botched her face. Just desserts IMO! https://www.tvinsider.com/people/janice-dickinson/

Yes. Nigel must use too much facial fillers. He looked like a softer version of Uncle Fester.

You live long enough and your inside becomes your outside.

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Anonymous wrote:I've only watched the first episode. I'm puzzled why Janice Dickinson isn't positioned as more of the bad guy. Tyra definitely looks more sane/caring compared to Janice.

Probably because she is dead, and can’t defend herself.

Janice D is alive.

She’s been married a million times and has truly botched her face. Just desserts IMO! https://www.tvinsider.com/people/janice-dickinson/

Yes. Nigel must use too much facial fillers. He looked like a softer version of Uncle Fester.

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Anonymous wrote:I've only watched the first episode. I'm puzzled why Janice Dickinson isn't positioned as more of the bad guy. Tyra definitely looks more sane/caring compared to Janice.

Probably because she is dead, and can’t defend herself.

Janice D is alive.

She’s been married a million times and has truly botched her face. Just desserts IMO! https://www.tvinsider.com/people/janice-dickinson/

Anonymous wrote:Miss Jay was mean mean mean. They all liked abusing these young women, they just used the whole “ it’s a tough industry” as cover. They are all bad people.

+1

They all knew full well how awful they were being, and the effect it had. They enjoyed it. Maybe not Nigel? He's not an idiot though.

It's why Jay Manuel wanted to quit around cycle 9; it was weighing on him. But then he kept at it for years and years more. He tells how they pressured him to do another season and took all of his power away, which I'm sure was true, but then he stayed on for years, not just one more season.

Miss Jay was mean mean mean. They all liked abusing these young women, they just used the whole “ it’s a tough industry” as cover. They are all bad people.