Anonymous
02/12/2026 04:51
Subject: I told my staff to get a Real Job
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Look OP raised a lot of hackles. But there is some validity.
It's hard if not impossible to be an autodidact about everything working in isolation with little face to face peer interaction, and possibly not even much virtually.
Judgement. Nuance. Context.
Investment in employees.
Okay but what is it about the current position that makes it a bad place for good work habits? If you have to go somewhere else to be properly managed and trained, it is a comment on the current workplace. It sounds like, "Go work for a real company because we are not one."
Walt Disney once said he only expects two things from employees:
1) Dream the Impossible
2) Then do the Impossible.
But seriously in smaller companies you get asked to do things that dont exist and no one has the SME skills. There is no one to teach you. You have to know it before you start. And there is small bandwidth. Picture taking over marketing in a small company that never had a marketing dept. You need to learn it elsewhere.
Ummm No. In a smaller company you need create a mindset of learning, collaboration, and getting things done in an organized and efficient manner. You don’t have to know it beforehand but be willing to figure it out.
Anonymous
02/11/2026 17:05
Subject: I told my staff to get a Real Job
The quality of workers is dismal. Zero work ethic. Many just coast along trying to “appear” as if they have institutional knowledge. This age is generally cynical and anti-corporation including the ones they work for! So you are not wrong, however, you have to be very careful in what you say.
Anonymous
02/11/2026 17:01
Subject: Re:I told my staff to get a Real Job
Oh boy. How did you get this job being so obtuse? That’s the more important question. You sound like a horrible supervisor.
Anonymous
02/11/2026 16:54
Subject: I told my staff to get a Real Job
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Was I wrong in saying this in a performance review?
Apparently HR flagged me off the record I am "expecting too much my staff" and my expectations are different their expectations.
Two people who work in my dept (which I like and think they have potential) both around 36-38 add very little value, clock watchers and work at a certain DC Govt type pace and are not critical thinkers. But both expressed interest in what they need to do to move up.
Looking at their resumes since college graduation around 2010 they both took BS jobs in small places with easy work life balance, and then went full remote in 2020 and now hybrid just two days a week in office in a place with no set in person days so on average at best 40 percent of company even at work on their two days. Both in my opinion are operating at knowledge level of a 23-24 year old two to three years out of school if they graduated and went straight to full time five days a week in office at a JP Morgan, Goldman, Google, Microsoft, Capital One, Fannie Mae or Big 4 type company.
I was being honest. I cant teach these two staff at 36-38 a decade of knowledge and their work ethic is horrible as not being in the office since 2020 is six years now. And pre that they had little punch the clock cubical jobs.
I was being honest they should go somewhere else, find a in person job. Large company name brand company with mentorship model and training and do the 2-3 years and if they want then come back as a VP or even SVP my company.
Apparently I shocked them. Was I wrong? Best advice I ever got was 30 years years ago I joined Finance dept at a major bank (HSBC) apparently I was way in over my head. The Controller took me aside and said look you are way behind and you dont know what you are doing but I believe in you. But we don't have time or resources to catch you up. You should go to a Big 4 firm, work your butt off, get the training, do a few years and come back. Guess what I did that.
Was I wrong to basically tell them to get a real job? Or is it just a thing that should not be said even if true. One even admitted he gets a job, stays 2-3 years does a lateral for a raise. He never really learned any company. And he is at same level the last decade. He has the job title of a 24 year old at 38. Or maybe he has a low IQ or limitations or just lazy? I guess I will never know. I am banned from offering actual advice.
The bolded is key - this is not something you say in a performance review. This is informal, straight talk for someone that wants to hear it.
Of course not a Perf Review. He actually gave me an amazing recommendation. I am very open and honest. I want to know employees values and beliefs and then help. Sometimes that help is an opportunity at a new place.
I read just today that Sam Darnold who was drafted first by NY Jets and had two horrible miserable years there before being bounced to three more teams each time slightly more success, than really good success four team and finally the Superbowl winner on team 5 actually fully appreciates the Jets fans that stuck with him over 5 teams and cheered for him in the SB. Why, it was not working out at Jets, it was hard love, that team was not a good fit for him and they stink at training rookie QBs.
Sometimes love leads to time to go somewhere else.
Anonymous
02/10/2026 22:44
Subject: I told my staff to get a Real Job
Anonymous wrote:Was I wrong in saying this in a performance review?
Apparently HR flagged me off the record I am "expecting too much my staff" and my expectations are different their expectations.
Two people who work in my dept (which I like and think they have potential) both around 36-38 add very little value, clock watchers and work at a certain DC Govt type pace and are not critical thinkers. But both expressed interest in what they need to do to move up.
Looking at their resumes since college graduation around 2010 they both took BS jobs in small places with easy work life balance, and then went full remote in 2020 and now hybrid just two days a week in office in a place with no set in person days so on average at best 40 percent of company even at work on their two days. Both in my opinion are operating at knowledge level of a 23-24 year old two to three years out of school if they graduated and went straight to full time five days a week in office at a JP Morgan, Goldman, Google, Microsoft, Capital One, Fannie Mae or Big 4 type company.
I was being honest. I cant teach these two staff at 36-38 a decade of knowledge and their work ethic is horrible as not being in the office since 2020 is six years now. And pre that they had little punch the clock cubical jobs.
I was being honest they should go somewhere else, find a in person job. Large company name brand company with mentorship model and training and do the 2-3 years and if they want then come back as a VP or even SVP my company.
Apparently I shocked them. Was I wrong? Best advice I ever got was 30 years years ago I joined Finance dept at a major bank (HSBC) apparently I was way in over my head. The Controller took me aside and said look you are way behind and you dont know what you are doing but I believe in you. But we don't have time or resources to catch you up. You should go to a Big 4 firm, work your butt off, get the training, do a few years and come back. Guess what I did that.
Was I wrong to basically tell them to get a real job? Or is it just a thing that should not be said even if true. One even admitted he gets a job, stays 2-3 years does a lateral for a raise. He never really learned any company. And he is at same level the last decade. He has the job title of a 24 year old at 38. Or maybe he has a low IQ or limitations or just lazy? I guess I will never know. I am banned from offering actual advice.
The bolded is key - this is not something you say in a performance review. This is informal, straight talk for someone that wants to hear it.
Anonymous
02/10/2026 22:01
Subject: I told my staff to get a Real Job
OP has posted many threads…each completely garbled and so poorly written that it is difficult to believe OP actually works in any professional capacity.
Anonymous
02/10/2026 21:47
Subject: I told my staff to get a Real Job
OP, you make me thank my blessed stars that I am a SAHM.
Anonymous
02/10/2026 19:00
Subject: I told my staff to get a Real Job
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Was I wrong in saying this in a performance review?
Apparently HR flagged me off the record I am "expecting too much my staff" and my expectations are different their expectations.
Two people who work in my dept (which I like and think they have potential) both around 36-38 add very little value, clock watchers and work at a certain DC Govt type pace and are not critical thinkers. But both expressed interest in what they need to do to move up.
Looking at their resumes since college graduation around 2010 they both took BS jobs in small places with easy work life balance, and then went full remote in 2020 and now hybrid just two days a week in office in a place with no set in person days so on average at best 40 percent of company even at work on their two days. Both in my opinion are operating at knowledge level of a 23-24 year old two to three years out of school if they graduated and went straight to full time five days a week in office at a JP Morgan, Goldman, Google, Microsoft, Capital One, Fannie Mae or Big 4 type company.
I was being honest. I cant teach these two staff at 36-38 a decade of knowledge and their work ethic is horrible as not being in the office since 2020 is six years now. And pre that they had little punch the clock cubical jobs.
I was being honest they should go somewhere else, find a in person job. Large company name brand company with mentorship model and training and do the 2-3 years and if they want then come back as a VP or even SVP my company.
Apparently I shocked them. Was I wrong? Best advice I ever got was 30 years years ago I joined Finance dept at a major bank (HSBC) apparently I was way in over my head. The Controller took me aside and said look you are way behind and you dont know what you are doing but I believe in you. But we don't have time or resources to catch you up. You should go to a Big 4 firm, work your butt off, get the training, do a few years and come back. Guess what I did that.
Was I wrong to basically tell them to get a real job? Or is it just a thing that should not be said even if true. One even admitted he gets a job, stays 2-3 years does a lateral for a raise. He never really learned any company. And he is at same level the last decade. He has the job title of a 24 year old at 38. Or maybe he has a low IQ or limitations or just lazy? I guess I will never know. I am banned from offering actual advice.
I'm not sure anyone as illiterate as you appear to be should be lecturing others on professionalism. Wow.
Absolutely agree. I could barely read that drivel.
Her follow up posts make me wonder if she’s drunk.
This poster is definitely a He.
Anonymous
02/10/2026 18:58
Subject: I told my staff to get a Real Job
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Was I wrong in saying this in a performance review?
Apparently HR flagged me off the record I am "expecting too much my staff" and my expectations are different their expectations.
Two people who work in my dept (which I like and think they have potential) both around 36-38 add very little value, clock watchers and work at a certain DC Govt type pace and are not critical thinkers. But both expressed interest in what they need to do to move up.
Looking at their resumes since college graduation around 2010 they both took BS jobs in small places with easy work life balance, and then went full remote in 2020 and now hybrid just two days a week in office in a place with no set in person days so on average at best 40 percent of company even at work on their two days. Both in my opinion are operating at knowledge level of a 23-24 year old two to three years out of school if they graduated and went straight to full time five days a week in office at a JP Morgan, Goldman, Google, Microsoft, Capital One, Fannie Mae or Big 4 type company.
I was being honest. I cant teach these two staff at 36-38 a decade of knowledge and their work ethic is horrible as not being in the office since 2020 is six years now. And pre that they had little punch the clock cubical jobs.
I was being honest they should go somewhere else, find a in person job. Large company name brand company with mentorship model and training and do the 2-3 years and if they want then come back as a VP or even SVP my company.
Apparently I shocked them. Was I wrong? Best advice I ever got was 30 years years ago I joined Finance dept at a major bank (HSBC) apparently I was way in over my head. The Controller took me aside and said look you are way behind and you dont know what you are doing but I believe in you. But we don't have time or resources to catch you up. You should go to a Big 4 firm, work your butt off, get the training, do a few years and come back. Guess what I did that.
Was I wrong to basically tell them to get a real job? Or is it just a thing that should not be said even if true. One even admitted he gets a job, stays 2-3 years does a lateral for a raise. He never really learned any company. And he is at same level the last decade. He has the job title of a 24 year old at 38. Or maybe he has a low IQ or limitations or just lazy? I guess I will never know. I am banned from offering actual advice.
I'm not sure anyone as illiterate as you appear to be should be lecturing others on professionalism. Wow.
Absolutely agree. I could barely read that drivel.
Her follow up posts make me wonder if she’s drunk.