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Anonymous wrote:DC deferred - 1580 SATs; 3.94 GPA non-weighted (challenging classes, all 4s/5s on APs); good ECs and in at Michigan so far.

This looks like yield protection.

Never stop the cope.

This. What’s the explanation for the same or higher stats kids they did accept?

I believe it’s yield protection.

You believe it, but don’t know for sure. You have very little info to go on, just some random stats about an unknown student on an anonymous forum. I don’t think the schools care as much about yield protection as DCUM posters.

Wisconsin's campus is much prettier than Michigan's. Michigan's law school is gorgeous, but the rest of the campus is just meh. (And Madison is a way cooler town than A2.)

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Anonymous wrote:I think Wisconsin and Michigan are two big 10 schools that are very similar and very even overall. I can see why one may pick one over the other and vice versa.

Does Wisconsin have the prettier campus? Is Wisconsin or Michigan easier to get to from the DMV?

DD is a freshman at UW Madison now and we think the campus is so much more beautiful than Michigan’s. We were blown away when we visited. Plus, the Michigan engineering campus is a bus ride away from main campus. I can see why kids choose UW over Michigan if they are not rankings-obsessed.

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Anonymous wrote:I think Wisconsin and Michigan are two big 10 schools that are very similar and very even overall. I can see why one may pick one over the other and vice versa.

Does Wisconsin have the prettier campus? Is Wisconsin or Michigan easier to get to from the DMV?

UMich has a better academic reputation than UW-Madison overall for sure, but both are great schools. I notice UMich is overrated whereas UW is underrated esp on here. My kid is a normal (by no means spectacular) high stats student. According to Scoir, UMich is a reach but UW is just a likely.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD is in! Astrophysics. strong Why WI essay - spent more time on this than any other essay!

Let us know if she commits

Curious why you want to know this. It is her top choice by far; the only reason she won't commit is if she gets in from a deferment from a school that has the exact area of study that she is interested in and that UW doesn't have. But her heart is at WI.

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Anonymous wrote:OP. In for Econ. MCPS. Very strong why Wisconsin essay (got a lot of tips from several Wisconsin alumni). High stat- 36 ACT and 4.9+ WGPA. Waiting for Ivy and IVy+ results, but happy to attend UWM.

I think the Why Wisconsin matters. For every strong student who got deferred, it’s worth asking how their supplement was.

Its a 650 word essay on PURPOSE. They want to see extraordinary detail and depth.
Similar to Michigan.

It's not like they just give kids extra room for shits and giggles.

Similar to Cornell. When a school gives your kid that much room, they are looking for something very specific.
I'd put the Cornell, MI, and WI essays all in the same category, with different levels of selectivity, but all related.

What exactly are they looking for?

Genuine reasons to attend + alignment with Wisconsin's values and mission.

You should understand the WI Idea and write about how you would apply that to your studies and activities as a student. The WI Idea is very important to UW.

Anonymous wrote:Yes, several large schools did the same a few years ago. They want to hear that you actually are applying because you’re considering it rather than just spraying applications. It’s yield protection to some extent.

To the previous point, my kid got in and it’s high on the list. He has two friends (not from DMV) who got into Michigan and were deferred from UW. They’re great kids but not high stats, so the surprise was more on the Michigan admission than the Wisconsin deferrals.

This. Wisconsin and Michigan both do this. If they know that the GPA of an actual matriculant from your high school is around a 3.7, they're not going to admit you with your 3.95 unless there is some overwhelming evidence in your application that you'll in love with their school.

Each of these schools have territory reps that know your high school inside and out. Michigan now has 2 reps just for DC! They are parsing the data of who was admitted from DC last year and who actually enrolled. On top of this colleges have people whose entire job is Enrollment Management. It's all data driven and becoming increasingly this way each year.

Anonymous wrote:I think Wisconsin and Michigan are two big 10 schools that are very similar and very even overall. I can see why one may pick one over the other and vice versa.

Does Wisconsin have the prettier campus? Is Wisconsin or Michigan easier to get to from the DMV?

I think Wisconsin and Michigan are two big 10 schools that are very similar and very even overall. I can see why one may pick one over the other and vice versa.

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Anonymous wrote:Wierd about multiple not getting into WI but MI acceptance - thought MI harder entry

These kids weren’t rejected. Wisconsin has effectively just said to these high-stats kids “hey, we think that by now you’re probably into Michigan and/or an SCEA/REA school or something. If not, let us know and we’ll probably accept you in RD.”

source?

Yes, several large schools did the same a few years ago. They want to hear that you actually are applying because you’re considering it rather than just spraying applications. It’s yield protection to some extent.

To the previous point, my kid got in and it’s high on the list. He has two friends (not from DMV) who got into Michigan and were deferred from UW. They’re great kids but not high stats, so the surprise was more on the Michigan admission than the Wisconsin deferrals.

Anonymous wrote:I think that for a college that practices yield protection, one with very high stats (for the school) needs to show some interest. I know a very high stats kid who got deferred by a college in the same league as Wisconsin; the kid was explicitly asked by the college to talk about his level of interest in the loci.

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Is it common for a college to ask applicants to talk about their interest level in the loci when they defer them?

Anonymous wrote:My DD is in! Astrophysics. strong Why WI essay - spent more time on this than any other essay!

Let us know if she commits

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Anonymous wrote:OP. In for Econ. MCPS. Very strong why Wisconsin essay (got a lot of tips from several Wisconsin alumni). High stat- 36 ACT and 4.9+ WGPA. Waiting for Ivy and IVy+ results, but happy to attend UWM.

I think the Why Wisconsin matters. For every strong student who got deferred, it’s worth asking how their supplement was.

Its a 650 word essay on PURPOSE. They want to see extraordinary detail and depth.
Similar to Michigan.

It's not like they just give kids extra room for shits and giggles.

Similar to Cornell. When a school gives your kid that much room, they are looking for something very specific.
I'd put the Cornell, MI, and WI essays all in the same category, with different levels of selectivity, but all related.

What exactly are they looking for?

Genuine reasons to attend + alignment with Wisconsin's values and mission.

Anonymous wrote:I think that for a college that practices yield protection, one with very high stats (for the school) needs to show some interest. I know a very high stats kid who got deferred by a college in the same league as Wisconsin; the kid was explicitly asked by the college to talk about his level of interest in the loci.

What does a Wisconsin loci look like