Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Only a few people have the memo, they only verbally tell ICE agents about it, and it is in direct violation of DHS policies and the 4th Amendment

They are ChiCom Big Government criminals.

Important correction to your title, PP. They didn’t say no more warrants; they said no judicial warrants. That means no warrant signed by a judge which is the gold standard. They would still need a warrant but it would be issued by ICE so would have lower standards presumably.

A judicial warrant isn’t the “gold standard.” It’s the constitution. An “administrative warrant” is just a piece of paper signed by a bureaucrat. It has no legal significance.

+1 An administrative warrant is from the executive branch telling ICE which is also part of the executive branch that something is permissible. The entire point of a judicial warrant is that another branch needs to weigh in. You know, checks and balances like most of us learned about in elementary school.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are entering the houses of illegal immigrants who have final orders of removal issued by immigration judges. I don’t see why this is a bad thing.

Do you cate if the Constitution is followed or not?

Under the Constitution, if there is no warrant, any thing found in a search is inadmissible, the exclusionary rule.
Police can enter without a warrant if they have probable cause of a crime in progress, but again no search.
Here it is an illegal immigrant, not a criminal case, and there is no remedy as there was no search.

That probable cause is things like hearing threatening shouting or a previous 911 call. Not, 'hey I am at the door and think something could be happening so I am going in'

For all of you defending ICE...recent polling is showing that even non-college educated whites - Trump's bread and butter - are opposed to ICE tactics.

It is such a small minority of Americans who think this is ok.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are entering the houses of illegal immigrants who have final orders of removal issued by immigration judges. I don’t see why this is a bad thing.

Do you cate if the Constitution is followed or not?

Under the Constitution, if there is no warrant, any thing found in a search is inadmissible, the exclusionary rule.
Police can enter without a warrant if they have probable cause of a crime in progress, but again no search.
Here it is an illegal immigrant, not a criminal case, and there is no remedy as there was no search.

The Fourth Amendment does more than create the exclusionary rule.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are entering the houses of illegal immigrants who have final orders of removal issued by immigration judges. I don’t see why this is a bad thing.

Do you cate if the Constitution is followed or not?

Under the Constitution, if there is no warrant, any thing found in a search is inadmissible, the exclusionary rule.
Police can enter without a warrant if they have probable cause of a crime in progress, but again no search.
Here it is an illegal immigrant, not a criminal case, and there is no remedy as there was no search.

Anonymous wrote:They are entering the houses of illegal immigrants who have final orders of removal issued by immigration judges. I don’t see why this is a bad thing.

“Federal immigration agents bashed open a door and detained a U.S. citizen in his Minnesota home at gunpoint without a warrant, then led him out onto the streets in his underwear in subfreezing conditions, according to his family and videos reviewed by The Associated Press.”

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/nation/us-citizen-says-ice-removed-him-from-his-minnesota-home-in-his-underwear-after-warrantless-search/

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Anonymous wrote:We are now Iran, North Korea, Russia, Israel and China (though China has a great economy). No rights, no constitution, no western values. We are now a junior member of the Evil empire.

Oh and our population has shrunk for the first time ever.

The US has been doing this for decades - in the Middle East wars. Dems and Rs (and many in the civilian population) were ok with this as long as it happened “over there.” (Or willfully blind)

We’ve just brought the tactics home.

I seem to recall great outrage from Democrats over unconstitutional torture and detentions in relation to all that. It was Republicans arguing the constitution didn’t apply.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe there will be fewer murders and school shooting once they start invading people’s homes and want to do it safely and without getting shot at. If they kill the second amendment it might be the one decent thing that they do.

Part of me thinks they are trying to get an agent shot so they can justify even more violence.

I’ve thought that this whole year and am amazed it hasn’t happened yet.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are entering the houses of illegal immigrants who have final orders of removal issued by immigration judges. I don’t see why this is a bad thing.

Do you cate if the Constitution is followed or not?

The constitution is only for MAGA, don’t you know?

Anonymous wrote:We are now Iran, North Korea, Russia, Israel and China (though China has a great economy). No rights, no constitution, no western values. We are now a junior member of the Evil empire.

Oh and our population has shrunk for the first time ever.

The US has been doing this for decades - in the Middle East wars. Dems and Rs (and many in the civilian population) were ok with this as long as it happened “over there.” (Or willfully blind)

We’ve just brought the tactics home.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are entering the houses of illegal immigrants who have final orders of removal issued by immigration judges. I don’t see why this is a bad thing.

Do you think we should not have a fourth amendment? That puts you at odds with the drafters of the Constitution. It sounds pretty un-American of you.

Remember when they were all howling about the FBI searching Mar-a-Lago with a valid warrant?

We are now Iran, North Korea, Russia, Israel and China (though China has a great economy). No rights, no constitution, no western values. We are now a junior member of the Evil empire.

Oh and our population has shrunk for the first time ever.

Anonymous wrote:They are entering the houses of illegal immigrants who have final orders of removal issued by immigration judges. I don’t see why this is a bad thing.

Do you think we should not have a fourth amendment? That puts you at odds with the drafters of the Constitution. It sounds pretty un-American of you.

Anonymous wrote:They are entering the houses of illegal immigrants who have final orders of removal issued by immigration judges. I don’t see why this is a bad thing.

They are entering the homes of legal immigrants and US citizens. They are ignoring the US constitution and our civic norms. MAGA is accepting action here that they were bleating about during the 2024 campaign suggesting that Biden and Harris were doing these things or were going to do these things. It was all projection and gaslighting.

Anonymous wrote:They are entering the houses of illegal immigrants who have final orders of removal issued by immigration judges. I don’t see why this is a bad thing.

Do you cate if the Constitution is followed or not?