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Anonymous wrote:I know plenty of people who have two or three kids who use natural family planning! What a bizarre statement to say if you have three kids you use birth control. A woman with self-knowledge can absolutely know when she ovulates! The pharmaceutical industry would love to keep women in the dark, and make you believe how erratic and unknowable the science of your body is. NFP is empowering. I caught two health problems before my doctor because I understand my body and because a cycle can tell you a lot about your health. I have been in many NFP groups over the years. Please stop making blanket statements! The people who have 13 children these days are people who are completely open to new life, this is different from using natural family planning.

BS absolute BS they use BC the rhythum method does not work. Only thing that works is BC.

Anonymous wrote:Nonsense regarding former numeraries. My spouse is former Opus Dei numerary. We still hang out with Opus Dei people all the time- they could not be warmer towards us.

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Anonymous wrote:I know plenty of people who have two or three kids who use natural family planning! What a bizarre statement to say if you have three kids you use birth control. A woman with self-knowledge can absolutely know when she ovulates! The pharmaceutical industry would love to keep women in the dark, and make you believe how erratic and unknowable the science of your body is. NFP is empowering. I caught two health problems before my doctor because I understand my body and because a cycle can tell you a lot about your health. I have been in many NFP groups over the years. Please stop making blanket statements! The people who have 13 children these days are people who are completely open to new life, this is different from using natural family planning.

BS absolute BS they use BC the rhythum method does not work. Only thing that works is BC.

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Anonymous wrote:They may be abstinent? Wow. The world would be such a better place if people could just embrace who they actually are (i.e. gay, trans, etc.). Instead kids who were teased or bullied by peer or family members for being different are driven by deep shame to suspend their rational faculties so that they can deny what they know to be true about themselves. They tell themselves that everyone secretly shares the same struggles. They twist themselves into pretezels to accord with rigid, bizarre, and extremist beliefs that help them to suppress their natural inclinations. And worst of all, they turn all that self-loathing outward towards the condemnation of others. Anyone who is as focused as Opus Dei is on other peoples' sexual behavior is suppressing their own shameful (to their mind) truth about themselves. Time and time again leaders who have rabidly condemned others' sexual behaviors are revealed to be secretly gay or to be attracted to children, yet the lesson is never learned. I feel very sorry for those people who hate themselves so much. If you could just let yourself be yourself, you could save yourself (and others) a lot of pain.

I’d say the average Opus Dei participant is way less concerned with other people’s sexual behavior than people here seem to be with the behavior of Opus Dei participants.

Wrong the cult of OPUS DEI definitly interferes with it's members procreation. It is a cult for god's sake. And would love to control other women as well in this area. Why the hell do you think they are suing in court to stop abortions? Why the hell do you think Amy Comey Barrett is on the Supreme Court? They give a ton of monies to Erin Morrow Hawley the little handmaid tales shitty lawyer.

+1 😂

Anonymous wrote:I know plenty of people who have two or three kids who use natural family planning! What a bizarre statement to say if you have three kids you use birth control. A woman with self-knowledge can absolutely know when she ovulates! The pharmaceutical industry would love to keep women in the dark, and make you believe how erratic and unknowable the science of your body is. NFP is empowering. I caught two health problems before my doctor because I understand my body and because a cycle can tell you a lot about your health. I have been in many NFP groups over the years. Please stop making blanket statements! The people who have 13 children these days are people who are completely open to new life, this is different from using natural family planning.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh gosh. You must not know much about Opus Dei. I’d do your research. Even Catholics find Opus Dei to be … too much.

Here’s a thread worth reading, but there are many more.
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/229287.page

Yes, I know all about Opus Dei, thank you.

Then you would agree that it would be pretty unusual to find lightweight or non practicing Opus Dei Catholics, right? It's a silly question. Opus Dei is rather intense.

"intense" It is a cult.

Amy Comey Barret is in a cult.

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Anonymous wrote:They may be abstinent? Wow. The world would be such a better place if people could just embrace who they actually are (i.e. gay, trans, etc.). Instead kids who were teased or bullied by peer or family members for being different are driven by deep shame to suspend their rational faculties so that they can deny what they know to be true about themselves. They tell themselves that everyone secretly shares the same struggles. They twist themselves into pretezels to accord with rigid, bizarre, and extremist beliefs that help them to suppress their natural inclinations. And worst of all, they turn all that self-loathing outward towards the condemnation of others. Anyone who is as focused as Opus Dei is on other peoples' sexual behavior is suppressing their own shameful (to their mind) truth about themselves. Time and time again leaders who have rabidly condemned others' sexual behaviors are revealed to be secretly gay or to be attracted to children, yet the lesson is never learned. I feel very sorry for those people who hate themselves so much. If you could just let yourself be yourself, you could save yourself (and others) a lot of pain.

I’d say the average Opus Dei participant is way less concerned with other people’s sexual behavior than people here seem to be with the behavior of Opus Dei participants.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh gosh. You must not know much about Opus Dei. I’d do your research. Even Catholics find Opus Dei to be … too much.

Here’s a thread worth reading, but there are many more.
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/229287.page

Speak for yourself, heretic.

Ick. Seriously. If you are a Roman Catholic, then your church is led by a the Pope, whom you are supposed to believe is infallible when speaking ex cathedra. Both of the last two Popes have been clear that Opus Dei theology departs signifcantly from Roman Catholic Church doctrine. In other words, if you, OP (and the others on this thread who are giving the same vibes), believe in Opus Dei, then you aren't really a Roman Catholic at all. You are in cult that has splintered from the Roman Catholic Church.

No, this is not correct. Opus Dei is in good standing with the Catholic Church. It is not schismatic and not a splinter group. I am not a member of Opus Dei, but know people from it who are very good people. I do not expect it (or the Catholic Church, for that matter) to get any sort of fair treatment on a forum like this.

Yes, DCUM frowns on cults trying to force their beliefs on everyone.

DCUM frowns on anything not adhering to the pro-abortion, liberal narrative. Talk about forcing beliefs.

People who care about women want them to have bodily autonomy.

Including the autonomy to accept their fertility, take advantage of cyclical nature, and arrange their life as they see fit rather than being compelled to accept as normal the ritual poisoning of themselves with harmful chemicals so they can become male-analog worker drones on the assembly line.

Anonymous wrote:OPUS DEI

Members, particularly numeraries, often sign over their assets.

Leaving is difficult.
Former members may find it hard to connect with non-members or family, having been encouraged to distance themselves

Pelagianism (try, you can be perfect)

the constant control of your time, money, clothing, words and relationships typical of sects

an obsession with physicality, especially sex, bordering on Manichaeism.

Cult

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Anonymous wrote:Oh gosh. You must not know much about Opus Dei. I’d do your research. Even Catholics find Opus Dei to be … too much.

Here’s a thread worth reading, but there are many more.
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/229287.page

Speak for yourself, heretic.

Ick. Seriously. If you are a Roman Catholic, then your church is led by a the Pope, whom you are supposed to believe is infallible when speaking ex cathedra. Both of the last two Popes have been clear that Opus Dei theology departs signifcantly from Roman Catholic Church doctrine. In other words, if you, OP (and the others on this thread who are giving the same vibes), believe in Opus Dei, then you aren't really a Roman Catholic at all. You are in cult that has splintered from the Roman Catholic Church.

No, this is not correct. Opus Dei is in good standing with the Catholic Church. It is not schismatic and not a splinter group. I am not a member of Opus Dei, but know people from it who are very good people. I do not expect it (or the Catholic Church, for that matter) to get any sort of fair treatment on a forum like this.

Yes, DCUM frowns on cults trying to force their beliefs on everyone.

DCUM frowns on anything not adhering to the pro-abortion, liberal narrative. Talk about forcing beliefs.

People who care about women want them to have bodily autonomy.

Including the autonomy to accept their fertility, take advantage of cyclical nature, and arrange their life as they see fit rather than being compelled to accept as normal the ritual poisoning of themselves with harmful chemicals so they can become male-analog worker drones on the assembly line.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh gosh. You must not know much about Opus Dei. I’d do your research. Even Catholics find Opus Dei to be … too much.

Here’s a thread worth reading, but there are many more.
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/229287.page

Speak for yourself, heretic.

Ick. Seriously. If you are a Roman Catholic, then your church is led by a the Pope, whom you are supposed to believe is infallible when speaking ex cathedra. Both of the last two Popes have been clear that Opus Dei theology departs signifcantly from Roman Catholic Church doctrine. In other words, if you, OP (and the others on this thread who are giving the same vibes), believe in Opus Dei, then you aren't really a Roman Catholic at all. You are in cult that has splintered from the Roman Catholic Church.

No, this is not correct. Opus Dei is in good standing with the Catholic Church. It is not schismatic and not a splinter group. I am not a member of Opus Dei, but know people from it who are very good people. I do not expect it (or the Catholic Church, for that matter) to get any sort of fair treatment on a forum like this.

Yes, DCUM frowns on cults trying to force their beliefs on everyone.

DCUM frowns on anything not adhering to the pro-abortion, liberal narrative. Talk about forcing beliefs.

People who care about women want them to have bodily autonomy.

Including the autonomy to accept their fertility, take advantage of cyclical nature, and arrange their life as they see fit rather than being compelled to accept as normal the ritual poisoning of themselves with harmful chemicals so they can become male-analog worker drones on the assembly line.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh gosh. You must not know much about Opus Dei. I’d do your research. Even Catholics find Opus Dei to be … too much.

Here’s a thread worth reading, but there are many more.
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/229287.page

Speak for yourself, heretic.

Ick. Seriously. If you are a Roman Catholic, then your church is led by a the Pope, whom you are supposed to believe is infallible when speaking ex cathedra. Both of the last two Popes have been clear that Opus Dei theology departs signifcantly from Roman Catholic Church doctrine. In other words, if you, OP (and the others on this thread who are giving the same vibes), believe in Opus Dei, then you aren't really a Roman Catholic at all. You are in cult that has splintered from the Roman Catholic Church.

No, this is not correct. Opus Dei is in good standing with the Catholic Church. It is not schismatic and not a splinter group. I am not a member of Opus Dei, but know people from it who are very good people. I do not expect it (or the Catholic Church, for that matter) to get any sort of fair treatment on a forum like this.

Yes, DCUM frowns on cults trying to force their beliefs on everyone.

DCUM frowns on anything not adhering to the pro-abortion, liberal narrative. Talk about forcing beliefs.

People who care about women want them to have bodily autonomy.