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They are looking for certain demographics.

Nah, top school are already getting a decent cross section of students. PP's noting low admit rate are correct. That and high % of full pay students are goals.

They want more full pay but are offering fee waivers? You clearly have no clue what you are talking about, or what institutional priorities truly are. The tip top schools are desperate to maintain diversity.

Agree that they are not looking for "more full pay". AT ALL.
The ED/SCEA deferrals and denials are actually up this year from several local, top privates. Lots of kids denied outright with high 1550+, 3.9+, full pay (plus likely will donate further) who were denied left and right this year. And they're coming from high schools that in recent years have actually produced valedictorians at these colleges. So kids from their high schools are routinely killing it once at the colleges, paying full freight and the colleges are saying "no thanks, let's shake the tree for more applicants."

It is crazy practice.

Agree with this completely. My valedictorian DC with highest rigor, 1570, NMSQT, and international awards was rejected by Yale SCEA and we are full pay. I see that Yale is extending the deadline for everyone and I have no idea why my kid wasn't deferred.

Your kid sounds extremely talented, and I'm sorry they didn't get in, but Yale only accepts less than 5% of applicants, so I think it's ridiculous to say that your kid didn't get in because they're full-pay. Approx 55% of Yale students receive no financial aid (on tuition of 90K) so they're hardly a minority at the school.

I did hear anecdotally that some elite universities are rejecting students outright for EA/ED rather than deferring them because they know the students are unlikely to get in RD and it's better not to keep them dangling til March. But it does feel like more of a rejection than getting deferred, I'm sure.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

They are looking for certain demographics.

Nah, top school are already getting a decent cross section of students. PP's noting low admit rate are correct. That and high % of full pay students are goals.

They want more full pay but are offering fee waivers? You clearly have no clue what you are talking about, or what institutional priorities truly are. The tip top schools are desperate to maintain diversity.

Agree that they are not looking for "more full pay". AT ALL.
The ED/SCEA deferrals and denials are actually up this year from several local, top privates. Lots of kids denied outright with high 1550+, 3.9+, full pay (plus likely will donate further) who were denied left and right this year. And they're coming from high schools that in recent years have actually produced valedictorians at these colleges. So kids from their high schools are routinely killing it once at the colleges, paying full freight and the colleges are saying "no thanks, let's shake the tree for more applicants."

It is crazy practice.

Agree with this completely. My valedictorian DC with highest rigor, 1570, NMSQT, and international awards was rejected by Yale SCEA and we are full pay. I see that Yale is extending the deadline for everyone and I have no idea why my kid wasn't deferred.

NP. I think the reason for what seem to be mysterious decisions lies with enrollment management algorithms.

That's really frustrating. Here's hoping he has better luck in the spring. One might even wonder if the algorithm thinks so too, that there is more yield uncertainty with such applicants.

I don't think they are looking for anyone, I think they are looking for money and increasingly selective admission rates.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

They are looking for certain demographics.

Nah, top school are already getting a decent cross section of students. PP's noting low admit rate are correct. That and high % of full pay students are goals.

They want more full pay but are offering fee waivers? You clearly have no clue what you are talking about, or what institutional priorities truly are. The tip top schools are desperate to maintain diversity.

Agree that they are not looking for "more full pay". AT ALL.
The ED/SCEA deferrals and denials are actually up this year from several local, top privates. Lots of kids denied outright with high 1550+, 3.9+, full pay (plus likely will donate further) who were denied left and right this year. And they're coming from high schools that in recent years have actually produced valedictorians at these colleges. So kids from their high schools are routinely killing it once at the colleges, paying full freight and the colleges are saying "no thanks, let's shake the tree for more applicants."

It is crazy practice.

Agree with this completely. My valedictorian DC with highest rigor, 1570, NMSQT, and international awards was rejected by Yale SCEA and we are full pay. I see that Yale is extending the deadline for everyone and I have no idea why my kid wasn't deferred.

Anonymous wrote:The fee waivers are a clear sign that they just want more apps to lower the admission rate.

Fee waivers (lately) are seen as a sign in your app - and one that you don't want unless FGLI/QB.

What does this mean? That the school that offers a fee waiver will know your fee was waived and will use that against you? So, if you are offered a fee waiver but you intend to be full pay, you should not accept the waiver?!?

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Anonymous wrote:I think they are doing it t maintain their low acceptance rates. I have a senior in ED. After going thru the process, I find it total bull$hit. I have seen first hand, how admissions reps play stupid games.

This. No senior this year but I know a bunch who were denied or deferred from these Ivies and the kids have perfect stats. So the colleges didn't want these kids but have to go fishing for more?

In some sense this is also why these top schools have REA/SREA. They are encouraging top students to apply after early admits so they can pick and choose further to increase selectivity/diversity.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

They are looking for certain demographics.

Nah, top school are already getting a decent cross section of students. PP's noting low admit rate are correct. That and high % of full pay students are goals.

They want more full pay but are offering fee waivers? You clearly have no clue what you are talking about, or what institutional priorities truly are. The tip top schools are desperate to maintain diversity.

Agree that they are not looking for "more full pay". AT ALL.
The ED/SCEA deferrals and denials are actually up this year from several local, top privates. Lots of kids denied outright with high 1550+, 3.9+, full pay (plus likely will donate further) who were denied left and right this year. And they're coming from high schools that in recent years have actually produced valedictorians at these colleges. So kids from their high schools are routinely killing it once at the colleges, paying full freight and the colleges are saying "no thanks, let's shake the tree for more applicants."

It is crazy practice.

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Anonymous wrote:Schools do this every year and it doesn’t change acceptance rates.

More schools are doing it this year. Longer extension. They also want to keep the acceptance rates low as last years by doing so.

I think that the $90,000/year + schools are finally hitting that point where the cost is simply too high, with the exception of the very rich and the very poor.

I was wondering about this too. We're a donut hole family who finally reached a tipping point.

DD had recruiting offers from some of these $$$ schools that don't offer athletic or merit and had to turn them down. Some of them kept reaching out to her asking her to reconsider.

Anonymous wrote:

They are looking for certain demographics.

Nah, top school are already getting a decent cross section of students. PP's noting low admit rate are correct. That and high % of full pay students are goals.

They want more full pay but are offering fee waivers? You clearly have no clue what you are talking about, or what institutional priorities truly are. The tip top schools are desperate to maintain diversity.

They are looking for certain demographics.

Nah, top school are already getting a decent cross section of students. PP's noting low admit rate are correct. That and high % of full pay students are goals.

Anonymous wrote:Everyone does this every year

+1. One of the HYPS schools did that to me. I was a NMSF and the deadline passed without me sending the application and in early Jan I got a letter saying that they had extended the deadline for me and I should apply (I didn’t-I probably wouldnt have gotten in anyway.)

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Anonymous wrote:I think they are doing it t maintain their low acceptance rates. I have a senior in ED. After going thru the process, I find it total bull$hit. I have seen first hand, how admissions reps play stupid games.

This. No senior this year but I know a bunch who were denied or deferred from these Ivies and the kids have perfect stats. So the colleges didn't want these kids but have to go fishing for more?

They are looking for certain demographics.

Anonymous wrote:I think they are doing it t maintain their low acceptance rates. I have a senior in ED. After going thru the process, I find it total bull$hit. I have seen first hand, how admissions reps play stupid games.

This. No senior this year but I know a bunch who were denied or deferred from these Ivies and the kids have perfect stats. So the colleges didn't want these kids but have to go fishing for more?

The fee waivers are a clear sign that they just want more apps to lower the admission rate.

Fee waivers (lately) are seen as a sign in your app - and one that you don't want unless FGLI/QB.

I think they are doing it t maintain their low acceptance rates. I have a senior in ED. After going thru the process, I find it total bull$hit. I have seen first hand, how admissions reps play stupid games.