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Anonymous wrote:What are "the 13s?"

There are 8 schools tied st 13 on the most recent US News LAC ranking. Referring to them as such provides some anonymity and people who care about LACs get the reference. People who discount LACs or think only the so-called WASP schools are “worth it” likely won’t. The premise of this s entire thread seems to be “I’m terrified my kid won’t get into Duke even though they totally deserve it because they can’t break 1500.” Probably not a lot of LAC fans here.

I had never heard that before but I have a kid at a 13! Makes sense. The schools are so small you do risk identification.

My kid scored 1500+ on the SAT and I would have been thrilled to have them attend any of the “13’s”. I’m a biased SLAC grad and dismayed at the way some on this board write off the LAC’s as some sort of fallback. They’re an alternative to the T-25’s, not a fallback.

I find it curious that people think the verbal section of the SAT is hard to prep. My DC is not reader at all. Hates it. Reads books for AP English classes and is an excellent writer, but nothing for pleasure since about age 10. I’m not kidding. It is upsetting as a parent that reads all the time and I read to him nightly even through 8th grade (!) when I would read chapter books each night! He scored a perfect score on English and Reading section of the ACt (36s). It was shocking. 35 on the test overall not superscored. OP, maybe try the ACT.

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Anonymous wrote:What are "the 13s?"

There are 8 schools tied st 13 on the most recent US News LAC ranking. Referring to them as such provides some anonymity and people who care about LACs get the reference. People who discount LACs or think only the so-called WASP schools are “worth it” likely won’t. The premise of this s entire thread seems to be “I’m terrified my kid won’t get into Duke even though they totally deserve it because they can’t break 1500.” Probably not a lot of LAC fans here.

I had never heard that before but I have a kid at a 13! Makes sense. The schools are so small you do risk identification.

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Anonymous wrote:Perhaps your high school is "grade inflated"?

That would explain the misalignment of very high grades and lower SAT. Highest AP scores (5's are just the 90th percentile) are much easier to reach than over 1500+ SAT scores (98+%ile).

What explains a 1590 score low gpa kid? Lots of rigor. Took the highest rigor classes. Ended up 3.7. Would love to exchange places with OP.

Or smart but lazy.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps your high school is "grade inflated"?

That would explain the misalignment of very high grades and lower SAT. Highest AP scores (5's are just the 90th percentile) are much easier to reach than over 1500+ SAT scores (98+%ile).

What explains a 1590 score low gpa kid? Lots of rigor. Took the highest rigor classes. Ended up 3.7. Would love to exchange places with OP.

Poor executive function and/or prioritizing something other than classes.

Anonymous wrote:What are "the 13s?"

There are 8 schools tied st 13 on the most recent US News LAC ranking. Referring to them as such provides some anonymity and people who care about LACs get the reference. People who discount LACs or think only the so-called WASP schools are “worth it” likely won’t. The premise of this s entire thread seems to be “I’m terrified my kid won’t get into Duke even though they totally deserve it because they can’t break 1500.” Probably not a lot of LAC fans here.

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps your high school is "grade inflated"?

That would explain the misalignment of very high grades and lower SAT. Highest AP scores (5's are just the 90th percentile) are much easier to reach than over 1500+ SAT scores (98+%ile).

90%+ is considered an A at most schools. Seems silly to claim someone earning a 5 on the AP test didn’t earn an A in the class

Also, the 98%+ile you are referring is scoring that in one sitting. Superscore for that score is far more common.

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps your high school is "grade inflated"?

That would explain the misalignment of very high grades and lower SAT. Highest AP scores (5's are just the 90th percentile) are much easier to reach than over 1500+ SAT scores (98+%ile).

What explains a 1590 score low gpa kid? Lots of rigor. Took the highest rigor classes. Ended up 3.7. Would love to exchange places with OP.

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps your high school is "grade inflated"?

That would explain the misalignment of very high grades and lower SAT. Highest AP scores (5's are just the 90th percentile) are much easier to reach than over 1500+ SAT scores (98+%ile).

+1

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Anonymous wrote:Echo above comments on being hard to improve reading. Similar experience with DD. Tried all kinds of methods including studying most frequent 1000 SAT words over 3 months, perfecting punctuations, getting 5 on AP lang at end of junior year (too late for lit), etc. Her reading bounces between 670 and 730 in 4 attempts over 9 months. She did get 800 on math so my uneducated guess is perhaps she's grown up on tik tok and "teenager texting style" too much and hardly read anything serious.

Have you taken a practice verbal SAT to see how easy it is?

Of course, 99% of high school grads must be illiterate!

PP. Why the venom? My DD has taken all the digital blue book practice tests. She just couldn't crack 750 on reading and 730 on actual test. Too bad she is inferior to you

You're DD seems pretty smart. Maybe she can teach you reading comprehension.

Perhaps your high school is "grade inflated"?

That would explain the misalignment of very high grades and lower SAT. Highest AP scores (5's are just the 90th percentile) are much easier to reach than over 1500+ SAT scores (98+%ile).

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Echo above comments on being hard to improve reading. Similar experience with DD. Tried all kinds of methods including studying most frequent 1000 SAT words over 3 months, perfecting punctuations, getting 5 on AP lang at end of junior year (too late for lit), etc. Her reading bounces between 670 and 730 in 4 attempts over 9 months. She did get 800 on math so my uneducated guess is perhaps she's grown up on tik tok and "teenager texting style" too much and hardly read anything serious.

Have you taken a practice verbal SAT to see how easy it is?

Of course, 99% of high school grads must be illiterate!

PP. Why the venom? My DD has taken all the digital blue book practice tests. She just couldn't crack 750 on reading and 730 on actual test. Too bad she is inferior to you

Our junior DC is similar with verbal being more challenging. There is still significant time, and I think the AP Lang/Lit courses should help. The best thing you can do as a parent is encourage consistent preparation and also include TO and more accessible schools on the list. There really are not many schools where 1440 won’t put you in the mix.

What are "the 13s?"

Anonymous wrote:Echo above comments on being hard to improve reading. Similar experience with DD. Tried all kinds of methods including studying most frequent 1000 SAT words over 3 months, perfecting punctuations, getting 5 on AP lang at end of junior year (too late for lit), etc. Her reading bounces between 670 and 730 in 4 attempts over 9 months. She did get 800 on math so my uneducated guess is perhaps she's grown up on tik tok and "teenager texting style" too much and hardly read anything serious.

Have you taken a practice verbal SAT to see how easy it is?

Of course, 99% of high school grads must be illiterate!