Don’t single out NY. This is a nation problem. Are national averages are terrible below grade level. It isn’t a money issue- it is 100% culture and expectations that start in the home. Every city has a free library. I take my kids often. There’s about 10 computers in the kids section and more in the teen section. After school and on weekends these are all occupied by kids (and some are quite young) just sitting there watching trashy YouTube videos. There is no want to learn anything at all.

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Anonymous wrote:https://nypost.com/2025/12/05/us-news/nearly-half-of-students-across-ny-state-fail-to-make-the-grade-on-math-english-tests-data/

Nearly half the public school kids are below proficiency in math and English. NY spends a massive amount per pupil and still fails at providing a basic education.

NY’s model is not working.

No Red states have failed look at the US red states are always at the bottom

Historically, yes. But the Mississippi Miracle of fixing reading by fixing the curriculum has caused many states (red, blue, and purple) to also fix their literacy curricula. Virginia is following by requiring Science of Reading in its public schools and using most of the Mississippi approach to reading.

Anonymous wrote:I assumed it was because Mississippi never adopted 1:1 Chromebooks for learning and other states did. Maybe they couldn’t afford them, who knows. But it’s the Chromebook learning that led to falling literacy rates.

Why do you believe that Mississippi never adopted Chromebooks? 90% of Mississippi teachers use 1:1 computers in the classroom (https://mdek12.org/otss/msconnects/).

Anonymous wrote:Our district just publicized a 53% 8th grade algebra passage rate. Is that impressive?

It depends if 53% of 8th graders were enrolled in Algebra 1 and passed it because the other 47% had taken and passed Algebra 1 in 7th grade and were taking Geometry in 8th then yes impressive.

Anonymous wrote:The percentage of English language learners in New York State is over 10% and growing. In Mississippi it’s 3%. The “declining performance” in public schools is due to increased immigration, period. I work at a school with high numbers of language learners and this accounts for nearly all of our students below grade level. We are tossing kids into the system at age 5 with little English and little background in school and then somehow expecting it to even out.

Yup this is it. If you can speak and understand English- we can teach you to read. If you have zero knowledge of English AND your parents dont’ know how to read AND are trying to speak to you in Spanglish it is a VERY different.

Mississippi is pulling ahead because it is too poor to attract support immigrant labor. Most states ahve laws mandating phonics now, but Mississippi is different because it has a very small ESL population.

I assumed it was because Mississippi never adopted 1:1 Chromebooks for learning and other states did. Maybe they couldn’t afford them, who knows. But it’s the Chromebook learning that led to falling literacy rates.

Our district just publicized a 53% 8th grade algebra passage rate. Is that impressive?

Anonymous wrote:The percentage of English language learners in New York State is over 10% and growing. In Mississippi it’s 3%. The “declining performance” in public schools is due to increased immigration, period. I work at a school with high numbers of language learners and this accounts for nearly all of our students below grade level. We are tossing kids into the system at age 5 with little English and little background in school and then somehow expecting it to even out.

This problem also gets worse in a non-linear fashion. I have a friend who started K in the early 90s speaking zero English and in a year she was fluent. Since she was the only non-English speaker, she had no choice but to learn and learn quickly. But if there had been 10 other kids who spoke her native language in the class, she surely would have stuck close to them and English would have taken a back seat.

Anyone who makes this about politics instead of about kids is a jerk or just a troll.

We should want all kids to do as well as they can.

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Anonymous wrote:Have you read project 2025 or The Heritage Foundations plan for education????

Screw off the US is about to make kids work for pennies in factories with zero protections and girls will not be educated at all.

Yeah you are a complete moron

Project 2025’s plan for all women is to revoke their credit cards; only men will be allowed to have a credit card soon.

That is pure disinformation and has been debunked by fact-checks

https://thedispatch.com/article/fact-check-project-2025-women-financial-rights/

Anonymous wrote:Have you read project 2025 or The Heritage Foundations plan for education????

Screw off the US is about to make kids work for pennies in factories with zero protections and girls will not be educated at all.

Yeah you are a complete moron

Project 2025’s plan for all women is to revoke their credit cards; only men will be allowed to have a credit card soon.

Have you read project 2025 or The Heritage Foundations plan for education????

Screw off the US is about to make kids work for pennies in factories with zero protections and girls will not be educated at all.

Yeah you are a complete moron

Elementary school does not need separate classes for the top students based on a test.

No but they need separate classes for the kids who throw things multiple times per week. For years now, in NY, the DMV, and many other places, those kids end up getting their own room to themselves to crash out in and the kids who are trying to work go elsewhere without their materials.

Anonymous wrote:https://nypost.com/2025/12/05/us-news/nearly-half-of-students-across-ny-state-fail-to-make-the-grade-on-math-english-tests-data/

Nearly half the public school kids are below proficiency in math and English. NY spends a massive amount per pupil and still fails at providing a basic education.

NY’s model is not working.

No Red states have failed look at the US red states are always at the bottom

This is happening nationwide. I'm in Illinois and our coveted district always hovers around 70-75% proficient, but we have very few ESL and FARMS kids... If we had a few, I'm sure our numbers would go way down. And Illinois has also pushed for lower standards for years, so our proficiency and testing standards are already below many states'. It's a low bar.