Anonymous
Post 12/05/2025 17:11     Subject: Re:R.I.P. American children

I’m so sad about this. I remember the doctor coming to me and DH when I’d just given birth and asking if we “needed to talk about it” before giving DC this vaccine. We said almost in unison no please give it. This is a terrible day. After many terrible days.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2025 17:08     Subject: R.I.P. American children

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Looks like no more Hep B vax for newborns. RFK MAHA by bringing back liver cancers for young adults. 😬

Hopefully the rest of the world quarantines Americans and refuses to let their potential disease carrying behinds in.

So amazing how Jenny McCarthy and a bunch of Mommy bloggers get to bring back polio, measles, and hep B again.

How does the AMA sit there and allow this insanity to continue when they supposedly took a Hippocratic Oath. Why are doctors so quiet while watching the 1890s come roaring back?


Can parents still decide to vaccinate at birth?

And will insurance still cover it?


you can private pay if it's so important to you.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2025 17:05     Subject: Re:R.I.P. American children

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is no need for a Hep B vax for newborns unless the mother is positive. None at all.



Another stupid American.

The abundance is shocking.


In Canada, it's given at 12 or 13 years old.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2025 16:59     Subject: R.I.P. American children

Anonymous wrote:Overall, the risk of illness outweighs the inconvenience of the vaccine.
Talk about lawsuits? These babies will become livid litigious very sick adults.


Are you kidding with this bs about loving babies? The most preventable childhood "disease" is obesity. Can these millions of fat kids sue their parents along with the junk food industry? Should we also mandate breastfeeding and ban elective c-sections? And ban adults from having kids if they have a high probability of genetic birth defects?

Such dumb arguments and hysteria about a vaccine for a disease that the vast majority of babies knowingly have zero chance of getting in their first few months, especially when delaying 2 months will add only 1400 possible infections each year. And even these could be mitigated with detection and education. And I guess you white knights know who the populations to target are.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2025 16:55     Subject: Re:R.I.P. American children

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is no need for a Hep B vax for newborns unless the mother is positive. None at all.



I agree on this one. And I don't like anything about RFK or this Adm.


It's not a matter of "agreeing." Science shouws your opinion is unsound. The U.S. trid the mother-positive-only approach and it failed to adequatly prevent disease in infants in the United States. Vaccination for ababies all did prevent disease.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2025 16:52     Subject: Re:R.I.P. American children

Anonymous wrote:There is no need for a Hep B vax for newborns unless the mother is positive. None at all.



This is factully inocrrect.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2025 16:52     Subject: R.I.P. American children

Anonymous wrote:There's no reason why the hep b vax can't be pushed a few months like every other vaccine for the vast majority of people. The odds of contracting it are very low outside of the high risk population.


This is factually incorrect.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2025 16:51     Subject: R.I.P. American children

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's no reason why the hep b vax can't be pushed a few months like every other vaccine for the vast majority of people. The odds of contracting it are very low outside of the high risk population.


There is every risk. It’s contracted when passing through birth canal. That immediate vaccine is vital. If one waits several months, it’s too late.
Many women don’t get tested or contract it after being tested. It’s the best way to prevent serious illlness and suffering. Have you ever seen anyone with hepatitis b? A child? With a totally preventable horrible illness?!


+1

My sister died of Hepatitis related chronic liver disease, albeit C rather than B, because she acquired it through a blood transfusion before we tested for it. She'd had heart surgery as a child due to a congenital cardiac issue. She died of Hep C liver failure as an adult; near the top of our state's liver transplant list, but then got too sick. Liver failure is horrific.

Children will definitively suffer and die because of this, as they did when we previously used a risk based approach. We are knowingly returning to a failed practice.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2025 16:50     Subject: R.I.P. American children

Before hep B vax at birth, US had about 18,000 cases of Hep B in kids:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11694691/

That number basically crashed by 99% after we started vaxxing kids. Hep b vax has saved 10s od thousands of children since being given at birth.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2025 16:48     Subject: Re:R.I.P. American children

Anonymous wrote:There is no need for a Hep B vax for newborns unless the mother is positive. None at all.



What if the father is positive. What if a store came k is positive. Why would any intelligent person take the risk?

You can bet that insurance will no longer cover Hep B vaccine at birth and if parents choose to vaccinate before 2 months the cost will be $500.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2025 16:45     Subject: R.I.P. American children

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Looks like no more Hep B vax for newborns. RFK MAHA by bringing back liver cancers for young adults. 😬

Hopefully the rest of the world quarantines Americans and refuses to let their potential disease carrying behinds in.

So amazing how Jenny McCarthy and a bunch of Mommy bloggers get to bring back polio, measles, and hep B again.

How does the AMA sit there and allow this insanity to continue when they supposedly took a Hippocratic Oath. Why are doctors so quiet while watching the 1890s come roaring back?


Sorry, disagree. Please calm down.
Hep B vax is only for newborns who are at risk if their mom has Hep B or is at risk for Hep B. Babies can get the Hep B vax later. They should screen for Hep B, and only give it to newborns who are at risk, and add it to the vax schedule for kids who are not at risk.



You don’t understand. Babies can’t get it later, it’s too late. Screening is not fool proof.


It seems that MAGA will only learn when they see the consequences with their own eyes. Iron lungs. Children deaf and/or brain damaged from measles. Liver failure from hep b.

I hope they are all prepared to pull themselves up by the bootstraps. I don’t want to see my tax dollars go to caring for people suffering the side effects of preventable diseases.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2025 16:44     Subject: R.I.P. American children

Anonymous wrote:Does it mean that people can’t get the vaccine for their healthy newborns? Or is it just the recommendation that’s being lifted?


I expect some governors will force insurance companies to pay for it in the states where people are cared for and infants treasured - like they did with Covid vaccines. They override stupid RFK jr and his intent to make people suffer needlessly.,
My governor will likely do it within 24 hrs.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2025 16:42     Subject: R.I.P. American children

Overall, the risk of illness outweighs the inconvenience of the vaccine.
Talk about lawsuits? These babies will become livid litigious very sick adults.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2025 16:40     Subject: R.I.P. American children

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Looks like no more Hep B vax for newborns. RFK MAHA by bringing back liver cancers for young adults. 😬

Hopefully the rest of the world quarantines Americans and refuses to let their potential disease carrying behinds in.

So amazing how Jenny McCarthy and a bunch of Mommy bloggers get to bring back polio, measles, and hep B again.

How does the AMA sit there and allow this insanity to continue when they supposedly took a Hippocratic Oath. Why are doctors so quiet while watching the 1890s come roaring back?


Sorry, disagree. Please calm down.
Hep B vax is only for newborns who are at risk if their mom has Hep B or is at risk for Hep B. Babies can get the Hep B vax later. They should screen for Hep B, and only give it to newborns who are at risk, and add it to the vax schedule for kids who are not at risk.



You don’t understand. Babies can’t get it later, it’s too late. Screening is not fool proof.
Anonymous
Post 12/05/2025 16:39     Subject: R.I.P. American children

Anonymous wrote:There's no reason why the hep b vax can't be pushed a few months like every other vaccine for the vast majority of people. The odds of contracting it are very low outside of the high risk population.


There is every risk. It’s contracted when passing through birth canal. That immediate vaccine is vital. If one waits several months, it’s too late.
Many women don’t get tested or contract it after being tested. It’s the best way to prevent serious illlness and suffering. Have you ever seen anyone with hepatitis b? A child? With a totally preventable horrible illness?!