Anonymous
Post 12/04/2025 17:47     Subject: Re:Univ of Alabama suspends two student-run magazines - Alice & 1956 - due to Trump's DEI guidance

DEI is a form of racist bigotry. It is sad and appalling so many in the United States in 2025 cannot acknowledge this simple fact.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2025 17:12     Subject: Univ of Alabama suspends two student-run magazines - Alice & 1956 - due to Trump's DEI guidance

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the same crowd who believes in viewpoint diversity or whatever made up issue they create to defend their ideas and their ideas only?


If you read the rubric the professor specifically gave disagreement as an option.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2025 17:06     Subject: Univ of Alabama suspends two student-run magazines - Alice & 1956 - due to Trump's DEI guidance

Isn’t this the same crowd who believes in viewpoint diversity or whatever made up issue they create to defend their ideas and their ideas only?
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2025 17:03     Subject: Re:Univ of Alabama suspends two student-run magazines - Alice & 1956 - due to Trump's DEI guidance

Anonymous wrote:Both publications were founded upon and furthered DEI.

DEI perpetuates racial divisions rather than fostering unity.

Further, the mandatory DEI training required at most universities has been shown to increase prejudice among participants, rather than ameliorating the problem.

Are you dumb? Like seriously, we are actively witnessing free speech diminish and you’re still too ideologically brainwashed to notice the obvious problem?
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2025 16:59     Subject: Univ of Alabama suspends two student-run magazines - Alice & 1956 - due to Trump's DEI guidance

Anonymous wrote:The University of Alabama has suspended the publication of two student-run magazines — one primarily focused on Black students and another on women’s issues — citing recent federal guidance against diversity, equity and inclusion programs on college campuses.

The editors of Nineteen Fifty-Six and Alice magazines were informed Monday that the university was stopping the magazines immediately. A university official cited July guidance from Attorney General Pamela Bondi on what the Trump administration considered unlawful discrimination at institutions that receive federal funding, according to one of the editors.

Alice editor-in-chief Gabrielle Gunter said she was shocked and heartbroken about the decision. The magazine had just marked its 10th anniversary.

“It was pretty dumbfounding. I was under the impression that we were protected by freedom of the press and the First Amendment,” Gunter said.

Gunter said she asked how they violated the guidelines and was told the university believes having a target audience of women violates the guidelines.

The most recent issue of Alice included beauty content, such as dupes for high-end cosmetics, and more political pieces about misogyny in heavy metal music and an article on the politics of reproductive issues.

Nineteen Fifty-Six is named after the year the first Black student, Autherine Lucy Foster, was allowed to enroll at the university. It’s been in publication for the past five years.

“As Editor-In-Chief, I’m devastated but, regrettably, not surprised by the University of Alabama’s decision to suspend Nineteen Fifty-Six based on the current climate of our country. The students who have cultivated this magazine over its five-year lifespan have poured their hearts and souls into their work,” magazine editor Kendal Wright said in a statement.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/12/04/university-of-alabama-shutters-black-female-student-magazines-00676396



After this why would anyone want to send their DS or DD to Alabama? Heck even before this! One of the most regressive abortion policy states after Roe was overturned.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2025 16:06     Subject: Univ of Alabama suspends two student-run magazines - Alice & 1956 - due to Trump's DEI guidance

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:why would anyone make a topic of "Students were asked to write a 650-word response to an academic study that examined whether conformity with gender norms was associated with popularity or bullying among middle school students."

They shouldn't be writing about stuff like this in college; they need to learn how to leverage ChatGPT to write business reports, instructions, etc This opinion-based stuff is not good or helpful.


On the contrary, they need to write about stuff like that to properly work with ChatGPT. People with critical thinking skills won't have a future if they just blindly accept AI outputs.

The topic doesn't really matter. It's the exercise of thinking and writing and making arguments with empirical evidence. No one cares if the topic makes you uncomfortable -- deal with your cognitive dissonance to become a more enlightened, smarter person.


Her grade probably would have been fine if she properly synthesized Christian views and the article. It really was just her complaining. That paper wouldn’t have passed at most Christian schools.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2025 16:05     Subject: Re:Univ of Alabama suspends two student-run magazines - Alice & 1956 - due to Trump's DEI guidance

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Both publications were founded upon and furthered DEI.

DEI perpetuates racial divisions rather than fostering unity.

Further, the mandatory DEI training required at most universities has been shown to increase prejudice among participants, rather than ameliorating the problem.


The idea that diversity, equity and inclusion perpetuates racial divisions is itself stunningly obnoxious and racist.


PP is right that there is evidence DEI trainings result in increased prejudice in the trained populations. Whether or not you find us noticing “obnoxious and racist.”


What evidence is that? Don't be like this ditz of a Bible Thumper and expect us to take your word for it.

Cognitive dissonance is hard. DEI training should help people move past internalizing the messages and see the world from other perspectives. I realize some people are too shallow and stupid to do it, but that doesn't make the programs less valuable, it just helps us self-identify the bad people who need to be ostracized from society. If your reaction to DEI training is to say, "Well I'm not a racist! I'm a good person" then you're missing the point entirely, and might just be too bloody stupid to get it ever. This is useful for us to know, of course.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2025 16:00     Subject: Univ of Alabama suspends two student-run magazines - Alice & 1956 - due to Trump's DEI guidance

Anonymous wrote:why would anyone make a topic of "Students were asked to write a 650-word response to an academic study that examined whether conformity with gender norms was associated with popularity or bullying among middle school students."

They shouldn't be writing about stuff like this in college; they need to learn how to leverage ChatGPT to write business reports, instructions, etc This opinion-based stuff is not good or helpful.


On the contrary, they need to write about stuff like that to properly work with ChatGPT. People with critical thinking skills won't have a future if they just blindly accept AI outputs.

The topic doesn't really matter. It's the exercise of thinking and writing and making arguments with empirical evidence. No one cares if the topic makes you uncomfortable -- deal with your cognitive dissonance to become a more enlightened, smarter person.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2025 15:57     Subject: Univ of Alabama suspends two student-run magazines - Alice & 1956 - due to Trump's DEI guidance

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:why would anyone make a topic of "Students were asked to write a 650-word response to an academic study that examined whether conformity with gender norms was associated with popularity or bullying among middle school students."

They shouldn't be writing about stuff like this in college; they need to learn how to leverage ChatGPT to write business reports, instructions, etc This opinion-based stuff is not good or helpful.


It was a psychology class. This girl is a Pre Med psychology major.


That's scary.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2025 15:32     Subject: Re:Univ of Alabama suspends two student-run magazines - Alice & 1956 - due to Trump's DEI guidance

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Both publications were founded upon and furthered DEI.

DEI perpetuates racial divisions rather than fostering unity.

Further, the mandatory DEI training required at most universities has been shown to increase prejudice among participants, rather than ameliorating the problem.


The idea that diversity, equity and inclusion perpetuates racial divisions is itself stunningly obnoxious and racist.


PP is right that there is evidence DEI trainings result in increased prejudice in the trained populations. Whether or not you find us noticing “obnoxious and racist.”


I am very confident that any such “evidence” is looking at a very particular type of DEI training….whereas the broad brush here is knocking down innocuous stuff like a women’s issue journal.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2025 15:31     Subject: Univ of Alabama suspends two student-run magazines - Alice & 1956 - due to Trump's DEI guidance

Anonymous wrote:why would anyone make a topic of "Students were asked to write a 650-word response to an academic study that examined whether conformity with gender norms was associated with popularity or bullying among middle school students."

They shouldn't be writing about stuff like this in college; they need to learn how to leverage ChatGPT to write business reports, instructions, etc This opinion-based stuff is not good or helpful.


It was a psychology class. This girl is a Pre Med psychology major.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2025 15:29     Subject: Univ of Alabama suspends two student-run magazines - Alice & 1956 - due to Trump's DEI guidance

why would anyone make a topic of "Students were asked to write a 650-word response to an academic study that examined whether conformity with gender norms was associated with popularity or bullying among middle school students."

They shouldn't be writing about stuff like this in college; they need to learn how to leverage ChatGPT to write business reports, instructions, etc This opinion-based stuff is not good or helpful.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2025 15:28     Subject: Univ of Alabama suspends two student-run magazines - Alice & 1956 - due to Trump's DEI guidance

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:On a related note, a teaching assistant for a U of Oklahoma psychology class was placed on leave after failing a student who wrote a Bible-based essay on gender.

https://apnews.com/article/university-oklahoma-gender-bible-essay-demonic-0fd51985c123737cd372ba609b730541

There is a reason Alabama and Oklahoma are looked down upon.


I read that paper. It was something like what a fifth grader would write. There is a theory she did it deliberately to play poor put-upon Christian victim.

She didn’t even cite the Bible. She just said something about the Bible says there are only two genders (which it does not, but I digress.)


That paper she wrote was so bad and honestly it makes Oklahoma look bad. How did she make it to Junior year writing like that?


Her mom is a conservative talk radio host. It's easy to write a bad paper, throw in some half baked Christianity, and claim discrimination when you get the grade you deserve. It's a con. How well she can write normally doesn't matter.


All she really did was make herself look dumb in public. It was a painful read with repetitive run on sentences.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2025 15:28     Subject: Re:Univ of Alabama suspends two student-run magazines - Alice & 1956 - due to Trump's DEI guidance

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Both publications were founded upon and furthered DEI.

DEI perpetuates racial divisions rather than fostering unity.

Further, the mandatory DEI training required at most universities has been shown to increase prejudice among participants, rather than ameliorating the problem.


The idea that diversity, equity and inclusion perpetuates racial divisions is itself stunningly obnoxious and racist.


Exactly.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2025 15:27     Subject: Univ of Alabama suspends two student-run magazines - Alice & 1956 - due to Trump's DEI guidance

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:On a related note, a teaching assistant for a U of Oklahoma psychology class was placed on leave after failing a student who wrote a Bible-based essay on gender.

https://apnews.com/article/university-oklahoma-gender-bible-essay-demonic-0fd51985c123737cd372ba609b730541

There is a reason Alabama and Oklahoma are looked down upon.


I read that paper. It was something like what a fifth grader would write. There is a theory she did it deliberately to play poor put-upon Christian victim.

She didn’t even cite the Bible. She just said something about the Bible says there are only two genders (which it does not, but I digress.)


That paper she wrote was so bad and honestly it makes Oklahoma look bad. How did she make it to Junior year writing like that?


Her mom is a conservative talk radio host. It's easy to write a bad paper, throw in some half baked Christianity, and claim discrimination when you get the grade you deserve. It's a con. How well she can write normally doesn't matter.


Shocker. Religious right wing wackos trying to con the public.